2nd cycle...your opions please

[sundevil04]

30 yo 195 lbs 15% bf just finished my first cycle of 500mg a week of test e and am staring to plan my second cycle to begin in January. Goal is lean mass, hoping for 20lbs to keep. I'm debating between test at 500 a week for 12 weeksk with tbol at 60-80mg a day for 8 weeks and primo at 700mg for 14 weeks or keeping the test and tbol the same but replacing the primo with npp at 100mg eod...opinions and suggestions please

 

[Judo Tom]

first what was the first cycle and how did it go?

also not 100% sure of the cycles you are laying out but just go with test and tbol for 4 weeks. dont run orals for a long time its not worth it.

 

[jondale123]

I would run that like this.
test e 1-12 500mg/week
primo e 1-12 700mg/week
t-bol 1-6 75mg/ed
If you are looking for yourself to lean out this would be a good cycle. but 6 weeks is max with orals but turinabol is a mild oral i would stop at 4 with most of the rest.

 

[sundevil04]

Only thing I'm concerned about is the oil volume, that's 9cc a week...still ok?

 

[Tux]

Why do you need to jump from 500/week of test to 1200/week of test and primo plus a good 500mg/week of orals? You're more than tripling the weekly mg's of gear from your 1st to 2nd cycle. You don't need that much bro. Test/primo is a good cycle for lean, solid gains, but why such a big jump in dosage?

 

[IceIzNoble]

You only need to run tbol for 4 weeks, its effects start to taper off after that anyway.
Run tbol at 70-80mg/ed 1-4.

IcE

 

[Sherk]

Why do you need to jump from 500/week of test to 1200/week of test and primo plus a good 500mg/week of orals? You're more than tripling the weekly mg's of gear from your 1st to 2nd cycle. You don't need that much bro. Test/primo is a good cycle for lean, solid gains, but why such a big jump in dosage?

He said 500 mgs for 12 weeks not 1200mgs a week.

 

[letsgetbig]

keep your cycles for as long as your growing with out sides, where is this book everyone thinks you have to do cycles for 12/14 weeks?

 

[thecompound]

30 yo 195 lbs 15% bf just finished my first cycle of 500mg a week of test e and am staring to plan my second cycle to begin in January. Goal is lean mass, hoping for 20lbs to keep. I'm debating between test at 500 a week for 12 weeksk with tbol at 60-80mg a day for 8 weeks and primo at 700mg for 14 weeks or keeping the test and tbol the same but replacing the primo with npp at 100mg eod...opinions and suggestions please

Why do you feel the need to run back to back cycles that quick?
Theres no rush it a marathon not a sprint, and why not wait a full year and come back with reinforced gains, clean receptors, and a new plateau that you need to pass?

 

[Tux]

Yes, he said 500mg/week of test PLUS 700/week of primo PLUS 80mg/day or 560/week of tbol. Waay too much for a 2nd cycle. Hell I've done many cycles and my current cycle is quite a bit less than what he wants to do for a 2nd cycle. Plus, primo is expensive too, 700mg/week for your first run with it seems excessive. NPP at 100mg/eod sounds much more reasonable.

 

[thelocal]

Ill say this..if ur diet is not good ur wasting a lot of cash on promo..u could do 400 of test a week and 400 primo a week and be good to go man

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[sundevil04]

Only reason for the high dose is that's generally what I've heard to be effective for growth with primo. So you think id be better served whith the npp

 

[thelocal]

I think just all u need is this

1-12 500 any test a week
1-12 500 primo
1-4 50 mgs Tbol everyday

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[thelocal]

I never done Tbol some say u need60-80mgs everyday BC its mild ...IF that's the case I'd rather do 30mgs dbol instead with a A.I

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[Sherk]

Yes, he said 500mg/week of test PLUS 700/week of primo PLUS 80mg/day or 560/week of tbol. Waay too much for a 2nd cycle. Hell I've done many cycles and my current cycle is quite a bit less than what he wants to do for a 2nd cycle. Plus, primo is expensive too, 700mg/week for your first run with it seems excessive. NPP at 100mg/eod sounds much more reasonable.

I gotcha. My bad bro, I'm the one that read it wrong.

 

[gymjunkie09]

I think just all u need is this

1-12 500 any test a week
1-12 500 primo
1-4 50 mgs Tbol everyday

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I like this one here...should yield very lean and keepable gains

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[doogle]

i agree!

 

[zedhed]

I like the NPP over Primo. But you MUST have dostinex on hand for this.