2nd cycle plan so far=

[kruze414]

What do you guys think?

I have (2) 10ml 250mg Test E and (1) 10ml 200mg Tren E

I want to lower dosage to stay on longer. I want to start soon and be ending mid september (18-20 weeks)

I plan to shoot a cocktail of .5ml Test, w .25 ml Tren every 3.5 days
(250mg Test + 100mg Tren each week)

Im still reading up on PCT but I have bought Nolva, Clomid, HCG, and Arimidex

Since my dosage is slightly lower I would lower the HCG and the arimidex.
HCG every 4 days prolly like 150iu? I would start week 3 and problably take 2 breaks within the cycle like weeks 8-9... 15-16

Not sure about Nolva during..

Then Clomid starting 2 weeks after last inject..

 

[d_rson]

I'd say do test again. You messed up the first one. Do it right this time. Don't add tren, especially long ester tren(!), to a second cycle, let alone when the first cycle ended so badly. And tren for 20 weeks! Oh! And your dosages would probably not do much for you.

Actually, I'd say a kickstart test e cycle would be good, but do it right this time. Eat clean this time!
500mg EW for 12 weeks, kick start with tbol @ 40mg ED for 4-5 weeks, HCG during the cycle, and see "The Official PCT of 2010" sticky for PCT info. HCGenerate, sustain alpha, unleashed for 4 weeks, nolva if you like it. Have an AI handly like Aromasin,

 

[kruze414]

well thank you for researching my first cycle. The reason I want to be ON so long is becuase I feel like crap right now probbaly because I didnt do treatment correctly so I want to get back on. I also want to be at my peak physical performance in september ish. So i dont wanna be just gettin off the cycle feeling like crap. So maybe I could start soon and then take a break for a few weeks mid summer? I would definatly need some assistance figuring out the PCT for that... I am overwhelmed as it is. There are so many names.. I am getting flustered trying to read up on the PCT and during cycle treatments.

 

[d_rson]

You feel like crap because you're natural hormones are not back. Your T is probably very low. Don't compound on the problem and get back on. You NEED to get yourself back to feeling normal before you get back on again, or you're just going to hit another brick wall. I read your other posts and your first cycle ended wrong. You say you want to be in top physical condition in september, why risk crashing even harder before then??? Suck it up and accept it, you feel like crap because you cycled wrong (we've ALL done it), so why jump back into cycling again with even harsher compounds for even longer. Really, think about it, does it really make sense? What your post should say is "Feel like crap, need to get going on a good PCT now, help!"

You need to get some HCGenerate, Sustain Alpha, and Unleashed and get on them asap - jump into a good PCT. Get your system back to snuff and stable. I bet you'd be feeling MUCH better in 4 weeks! Then once you feel better, plan a good cycle this time.

Here's a good, solid, simple cycle that you probably can fit in before september, IF you get yourself back to feeling better before you start:
W 1-10 500mg Test E, (250 twice a week)
W 1-4 40mg Tbol ED
W 4-11 75mg Proviron ED
W 3-10 500ui HCG, (250ui twice a week)
W 12-15 HCGenerate as directed
W 12-15 Sustain Alpha as directed
W 12-15 Unleashed as directed

(see the "Official PCT for 2010" sticky)

If you only have time to run it 8 weeks, then just adjust.

BUT, I think you're main concern should be getting your natty test back up before you even start thinking about starting again, or you're just going to be in a hurt locker come september!

 

[needtogetaas]

You feel like crap because you're natural hormones are not back. Your T is probably very low. Don't compound on the problem and get back on. You NEED to get yourself back to feeling normal before you get back on again, or you're just going to hit another brick wall. I read your other posts and your first cycle ended wrong. You say you want to be in top physical condition in september, why risk crashing even harder before then??? Suck it up and accept it, you feel like crap because you cycled wrong (we've ALL done it), so why jump back into cycling again with even harsher compounds for even longer. Really, think about it, does it really make sense? What your post should say is "Feel like crap, need to get going on a good PCT now, help!"

You need to get some HCGenerate, Sustain Alpha, and Unleashed and get on them asap - jump into a good PCT. Get your system back to snuff and stable. I bet you'd be feeling MUCH better in 4 weeks! Then once you feel better, plan a good cycle this time.

Here's a good, solid, simple cycle that you probably can fit in before september, IF you get yourself back to feeling better before you start:
W 1-10 500mg Test E, (250 twice a week)
W 1-4 40mg Tbol ED
W 4-11 75mg Proviron ED
W 3-10 500ui HCG, (250ui twice a week)
W 12-15 HCGenerate as directed
W 12-15 Sustain Alpha as directed
W 12-15 Unleashed as directed

(see the "Official PCT for 2010" sticky)

If you only have time to run it 8 weeks, then just adjust.

BUT, I think you're main concern should be getting your natty test back up before you even start thinking about starting again, or you're just going to be in a hurt locker come september!

This is the best advice you are going to get right here. I would be happy to help you on a more personal level if you would like my friend. Send me a pm if you like.

 

[kruze414]

Thanks that looks good. As far as recovering right now...my last inject was over 3 months ago so Im not sure where I am at. My balls have been back down to usual position but still gettin the acne on the arms. Sometimes I will feel energy and power like back when I was on, and then other times I feel like old man river weak w joint pain.

So the HCGenerate, Sustain Alpha and Unleashed are used instead of Nolva and Clomid? Obscilete? The sources I have gotten the juice and HCG do not carry these 3 PCTs. Can one of you PM w more info on these?

thanks for your time.

 

[EZ_E]

Needtobuildmuscle.com of course!

Oh and BTW, the service and quality are 2nd to none...

~EZ

 

[EZ_E]

You feel like crap because you're natural hormones are not back. Your T is probably very low. Don't compound on the problem and get back on. You NEED to get yourself back to feeling normal before you get back on again, or you're just going to hit another brick wall. I read your other posts and your first cycle ended wrong. You say you want to be in top physical condition in september, why risk crashing even harder before then??? Suck it up and accept it, you feel like crap because you cycled wrong (we've ALL done it), so why jump back into cycling again with even harsher compounds for even longer. Really, think about it, does it really make sense? What your post should say is "Feel like crap, need to get going on a good PCT now, help!"

You need to get some HCGenerate, Sustain Alpha, and Unleashed and get on them asap - jump into a good PCT. Get your system back to snuff and stable. I bet you'd be feeling MUCH better in 4 weeks! Then once you feel better, plan a good cycle this time.

Here's a good, solid, simple cycle that you probably can fit in before september, IF you get yourself back to feeling better before you start:
W 1-10 500mg Test E, (250 twice a week)
W 1-4 40mg Tbol ED
W 4-11 75mg Proviron ED
W 3-10 500ui HCG, (250ui twice a week)
W 12-15 HCGenerate as directed
W 12-15 Sustain Alpha as directed
W 12-15 Unleashed as directed

(see the "Official PCT for 2010" sticky)

If you only have time to run it 8 weeks, then just adjust.

BUT, I think you're main concern should be getting your natty test back up before you even start thinking about starting again, or you're just going to be in a hurt locker come september!

The man knows his stuff ^^^

~EZ

 

[kruze414]

sustain alpha out of stock!

 

[d_rson]

sustain alpha out of stock!

No worries dude! Here ya go:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...ale-stock-up-your-supplements-now-699923.html

Stock up, these are great prices.