27 pounds on first cycle..... and only 5 weeks in....

[new2juice23]

I can't tell you the exact amount of what calories and all the numbers but I can tell you what I eat
7am: Protein shake. Sausage links. Pop tart.
10am: two peanut butter sandwiches on wheat. Canned tuna
12pm: Usually grilled chicken or steak. Along with some fruit and rice
2pm: another pb sandwich with rice
2:30pm: workout
Postworkout: protein shake
5:30ish: steak or chicken again along with whatever I make to go along with it
8pm: pb sandwich along with 4 eggs
10pm: protein shake and bed

Training is
Monday: chest
Warm up with 3-4 sets of machine press
Incline dumbbell flys 3sets 12/10/8
Pec flys 12/10/8
Incline dumbbell press 12/10/8
Reg bench 12/10/8

Tuesday: back
Warm up 2 light sets of lat pull
Wide grip pull ups 3 sets and I do max
Seated low row 12/10/8
Reverse grip bentover row 12/10/8
Close grip lat pull 12/10/8

Wendesday: legs
Warm up leg extensions
Squats 12/10/8
Standing calf raise 2 sets 12/12
Leg press 12/10/8
Leg curls 12/10

Thursday: shoulders and traps
Military press 12/10/8
Standing lateral raise 12/10/8
Closegrip upright row 12/10/8
Barbell shrugs 12/10/8
Single arm lateral raise 12/10/8

Friday: arms
Barbell curls 12/10/8
Close grip bench 12/10/8
Dumbbell curls 12/10/8
Dips 3 sets max

 

[ConanX]

I can't tell you the exact amount of what calories and all the numbers but I can tell you what I eat
7am: Protein shake. Sausage links. Pop tart.
10am: two peanut butter sandwiches on wheat. Canned tuna
12pm: Usually grilled chicken or steak. Along with some fruit and rice
2pm: another pb sandwich with rice
2:30pm: workout
Postworkout: protein shake
5:30ish: steak or chicken again along with whatever I make to go along with it
8pm: pb sandwich along with 4 eggs
10pm: protein shake and bed

Training is
Monday: chest
Warm up with 3-4 sets of machine press
Incline dumbbell flys 3sets 12/10/8
Pec flys 12/10/8
Incline dumbbell press 12/10/8
Reg bench 12/10/8

Tuesday: back
Warm up 2 light sets of lat pull
Wide grip pull ups 3 sets and I do max
Seated low row 12/10/8
Reverse grip bentover row 12/10/8
Close grip lat pull 12/10/8

Wendesday: legs
Warm up leg extensions
Squats 12/10/8
Standing calf raise 2 sets 12/12
Leg press 12/10/8
Leg curls 12/10

Thursday: shoulders and traps
Military press 12/10/8
Standing lateral raise 12/10/8
Closegrip upright row 12/10/8
Barbell shrugs 12/10/8
Single arm lateral raise 12/10/8

Friday: arms
Barbell curls 12/10/8
Close grip bench 12/10/8
Dumbbell curls 12/10/8
Dips 3 sets max

If I ate like that, I think I would gain about the same amount in 5 weeks.

You are bulking so it's fine, just don't think that the 27lbs are muscle mass.

I am not an expert, but I think maybe you should try revising your workouts to a 4 on, 1 off routine instead of 5 on 1 off. When on AAS, I find that I can do 3 on, 1 off with no problems.

 

[LiquidPhire]

27 lbs isnt 27 lbs of muscle thats for sure, I gained 28 lbs my first cycle of test E and deca , I was like you and didn't reach my genetic potential but trained and ate like a madman while on and I still kept about 17 total. None the less keep up the good work and you will eventually get where you wanna be !


EDIT: PCT , make sure your pct is in order otherwise it could all be a wash!!

Also get bloodwork done to make sure you are healthy (full panel etc)

 

[iggy]

thats a hella lotta PB you eat bro. what kind do you buy?

 

[dabuffguy]

Throw those pop tarts in the garbage and eat oatmeal. Add some eggs with your sausage. Drink the protein shake last because it's easy to get liquids down.

Drink milk with your meals for more calories and protein too. If you are bulking, milk is your friend.

What's in your protein shakes?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I predict a future thread from you will be :

22 pounds down - only 5 weeks after first cycle.


Sorry bro, you added bodyweight, not muscle. Which as long as you are happy and excited and still enjoying your time in the weightroom (as long as it is not at the cost of everything else in real life), then I say all the more power to you.

Personally, if I gained 27 pounds on any cycle, I would be panicing like a mofo. I am not the one to just gain weight or see the scale numbers go up. I only gained 11lbs on my first cycle which was 34 weeks. But I did it starting with low bodyfat and ended the 34 weeks 11 lbs heavier on the scale and with even less bodyfat. So you could say my overall gain was more than 11 lbs total, but that is just what is reflected on the scale.

But to each his own. Enjoy the first cycle. You will learn so many things about yourself and your training that you can put to future use. Keep a workout training log and a diet journal. In a couple of years this will pay off tremendously. Trust me.

Right......BUT......even being 11 lbs...11 100% lean muscle lbs....made you look 100% larger no? I'm sure your experience was a total body change visually. 34weeks too....holy shit



on to you new2juice23.....what you need my man....red fucking MEAT!!!! When I started....I looked just like you. 6'0 168(i was 21). now after I get finished with this 8 week cutter I started today I will be around 9-10% bf and probably 250 lbs.(mind you i'm 33 now).
RED MEAT, at your weight....2-2.5 lbs a day. 93-95% lean ground beef or ground sirloin, eye of round, sirloin tip, strips, whatever. Screw the chicken and tuna. they are awsome foods but you want MASS right? lots of mass? get yourself some bags of almonds and walnuts and eat them between meals for snacks by the handful. eat a cup of brown rice with almost every meal. or a cup of oats. Loose the sausage links in the morning and the pop tart that shit isnt good for you.
For your shakes....get some optimum MRP powder, vanilla custard or chocolate ( i use those cause they are nice and thick and the ingredients dont fall to the bottom)....in a blender add: 2 scoops of MRP, 2 tbsp natty PB, 1 cup of oats (quaker is great) and 4 cups of milk at least (whole milk in your case). blend and consume!!! I forget the exact count, but each shake has apx 1000 cals, 90g protien, 80g carbs, I forget fat. Also it tastes awsome. Its like cheating. Drink two of those ED and 4 other meals with 8-10 oz of real meat and a cup of rice or so with each.....you will put on some mass. If you dont, something is wrong. If you eat greens (i dont) by all means load them up. Dont worry.....your stomach will stretch

 

[new2juice23]

Thanks guys. Well first off the peanut butter I have is just jiffy. Protein as of right now is Cytogainer. I'm definitly taking all the advice given and I know I'm going to lose weight during pct and it's not muscle mass. I understand all of that but thanks for your comments and should I update this every week or so?

 

[dabuffguy]

Thanks guys. Well first off the peanut butter I have is just jiffy. Protein as of right now is Cytogainer. I'm definitly taking all the advice given and I know I'm going to lose weight during pct and it's not muscle mass. I understand all of that but thanks for your comments and should I update this every week or so?

1 scoop or 2 scoops of protein per shake?

 

[new2juice23]

4 scoops actually and 2cups of milk with that

 

[Olivelawn]

Right......BUT......even being 11 lbs...11 100% lean muscle lbs....made you look 100% larger no? I'm sure your experience was a total body change visually. 34weeks too....holy shit



on to you new2juice23.....what you need my man....red fucking MEAT!!!! When I started....I looked just like you. 6'0 168(i was 21). now after I get finished with this 8 week cutter I started today I will be around 9-10% bf and probably 250 lbs.(mind you i'm 33 now).
RED MEAT, at your weight....2-2.5 lbs a day. 93-95% lean ground beef or ground sirloin, eye of round, sirloin tip, strips, whatever. Screw the chicken and tuna. they are awsome foods but you want MASS right? lots of mass? get yourself some bags of almonds and walnuts and eat them between meals for snacks by the handful. eat a cup of brown rice with almost every meal. or a cup of oats. Loose the sausage links in the morning and the pop tart that shit isnt good for you.
For your shakes....get some optimum MRP powder, vanilla custard or chocolate ( i use those cause they are nice and thick and the ingredients dont fall to the bottom)....in a blender add: 2 scoops of MRP, 2 tbsp natty PB, 1 cup of oats (quaker is great) and 4 cups of milk at least (whole milk in your case). blend and consume!!! I forget the exact count, but each shake has apx 1000 cals, 90g protien, 80g carbs, I forget fat. Also it tastes awsome. Its like cheating. Drink two of those ED and 4 other meals with 8-10 oz of real meat and a cup of rice or so with each.....you will put on some mass. If you dont, something is wrong. If you eat greens (i dont) by all means load them up. Dont worry.....your stomach will stretch

That is kind of a waste isn't it? There is NO WAY the human body can absorb 90g of protein in one sitting, 50-65 max. Wouldn't it be better to save some of that protein for later? Besides if he is bulking he should be eating a ton of carbs. Like 100g per meal and keeping the protein to 1-1.5g per pound of body weight.