20yo guy - no idea what 2 take!

[DannyBoyMJ]

Hey guys,

I feel pretty overwhelmed with the array of supplements and the like that are clearly availible. I am 20 years old and have been working out (weights with a tiny bit of cardio) for around 5 months. I understand that there are people here who have been doing it for YEARS, but to be honest Im not that excited about my results so far...

I have been having a protein powder in a shake during/after my working - its cheap one I get from the gym I used to go to. But thats all. Can anyone point me to the kind of thing I should be taking? Any pointers at all!

cheers

 

[roookie]

Then you must have done something wrong cuz within 5 months I had great resultsI noticed it and so did everyone else! I was kinda tall and thin when I started working out the supplements that helped me out in the begining was; Weight gainer, protein shakes, creatine, aminos and ALOT of food, good food. All that with a swedish brand and for some reason I stumbled into www.needtobuildmuscle.net and now thats the place where I get all my supplements. He got some quality stuff at his site, everything is top notch. Check it out!

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

Hey guys,

I feel pretty overwhelmed with the array of supplements and the like that are clearly availible. I am 20 years old and have been working out (weights with a tiny bit of cardio) for around 5 months. I understand that there are people here who have been doing it for YEARS, but to be honest Im not that excited about my results so far...

I have been having a protein powder in a shake during/after my working - its cheap one I get from the gym I used to go to. But thats all. Can anyone point me to the kind of thing I should be taking? Any pointers at all!

cheers

How does your diet look? most the time the diet is to blame on not gaining especially with in the first year or 2.

 

[joe d]

Hey guys,

I feel pretty overwhelmed with the array of supplements and the like that are clearly availible. I am 20 years old and have been working out (weights with a tiny bit of cardio) for around 5 months. I understand that there are people here who have been doing it for YEARS, but to be honest Im not that excited about my results so far...

I have been having a protein powder in a shake during/after my working - its cheap one I get from the gym I used to go to. But thats all. Can anyone point me to the kind of thing I should be taking? Any pointers at all!

cheers

a multi v every day and a post w/o shake is all you need. your lack of success is most likely i diet problem. how bout laying out in detail a days food for us with times.

 

[andrew732]

Training hard with a good diet and 8 hours of deep sleep. If you are gonna take any supplement; go with creatine. My favorites creatine is chelated creatine, Green Mag by Controlled labs Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude, 1.83 Lbs. Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude, 1.83 Lbs [] - $36.95 : Orbit Nutrition . You do not need whey protein if you eat meat with each meal, meat is the most digestable source of protein and muti's are not necessary with a good diet.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Diet bro. And give it some time. I started working out at your age, I was a dipstick, after 6 months I could really tell the results, to the point that I was getting pussy just for the reason that they saw me before and after. Along with good supplements, food is essential. The results will come.

 

[joe d]

Training hard with a good diet and 8 hours of deep sleep. If you are gonna take any supplement; go with creatine. My favorites creatine is chelated creatine, Green Mag by Controlled labs Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude, 1.83 Lbs. Controlled Labs Green MAGnitude, 1.83 Lbs [] - $36.95 : Orbit Nutrition . You do not need whey protein if you eat meat with each meal, meat is the most digestable source of protein and muti's are not necessary with a good diet.

these statements about creatine and a multi v contradict each other. how is it that you dont need a multi v with a "good diet?" yet you should use creatine which is also plentiful in a "good diet"

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

its only plentiful if your diet is high in fish and certain red meats.

 

[Nelson Montana]

DX7, BIG BLAST, GEAR. Food. Lots of lifting. For now that's all you need.

 

[joe d]

it is easier to get a good amount of creatine from a quality bb diet than it is to get all of the helpful vitamins and minirals of a multi from the diet. its actually 2 or 3 times easier. 5 meals of 1/2 lb of an average variety of protein sources will give you 10g creatine. 5 meals of quality organic meats at 1/2 lb each will give you 15g creatine. if thats all you eat. there is also small amounts of creatine coming from other earea aswell. im not saying you must take a multi or creatine is a waste. any creatine mono is going to have its bennefits. i just buy the cheapest i can find when im looking. but the amount and variety of foods you would need to equal a good multi is rediculous.

 

[Gamut]

Have you had someone help you with how to lift properly?

You should be doing the basics since you are starting out.

Squats
Bench
Deadlifts
Chin Ups/PullUps
Overhead Presses

Focus on these lifts...start light and work your way up. Try doing 5 sets of 5 when you do them. If you can do all 5 sets of 5, then its time to increase your weight a little...maybe 5 pounds at a time. Get better every workout...either add a little weight or do an extra rep.

These are the lifts that make a real difference in your body and will build a foundation for your training. Doing a bunch of curls when you are just starting out will make for slow progress.

Eat only healthy foods. No garbage. As time goes by you will want better and better food. Eat a ton of it.

 

[DannyBoyMJ]

Hey guys ... so I recorded my diet today. How does it look? Its sort of spread across the day. Is it shit?

-Wakeup-
1 glass lite milk (+skim milk powder), 4 weetbix (theyre these wholegrain things we have here)
apple
salmon sandwich (+onion, tomato, lettuce)
nectarine
lunchtime: bowl of spaghetti
GYM
post gym: apple (dont have any powder atm)
a bit more salmon+ tomato
smoked ham in sandwich (+onion lettuce tomato)
DINNER: 3 chicken drumsticks + salads (cucumber, tomato, lettuce, zuchinni...)
1 glass milk (+skim milk powder)

Ill probably have something before bed as well... something thats not carbs of energy. I usually get hungry after dinner.

I was actually using a personal training service at "Flames Fitness", its personal training but cheap as the trainer trains several people in the gym at once sorta thing. But honestly, I think I got better gains back in college when I just did random exercises and stuff. Now Im at my college gym by myself. I think Ill buy a program there (for 30 bucks), maybe that will help. I was sort of doing exercises Id seen in mags or exercises Id been shown at Flames. And I guess Ill buy some protein, creatine and some multi vitamins... sound good? :/

 

[garryb]

this is just my op....but,a good start 0f supps would be creatine, whey protine drink, multi v.

your only 20yrs old so you are making good amount of natural test. you should be taking in the amount you want to weigh in protine(1-1.5 g per body weight) .. ie, if you want to weigh 180lbs youd want to take in roughly 180-270 grams of protien . carbs are i belive (1g per lbd of body weight) but if your young and thin and have a high motab i wouldnt worry so much about carbs and fats. as long as you eat clean.

you should be eating as much and as often as you can preferably 6-7 times a day. a meal replacement drink might be good as well if your schedual is tight. eat lots of protien packed meats like chicken ,tuna, steak ect. salmon and other fish have good fatts that youd want to take in as well.

your multi is your foundation, its gonna give you alot of the vitamines an minerals that your body an muscles need to grow and maintain them selves. think of your body like a steak ... if you were to eat a steak what part would you eat first? the meat or the fat around the meat?...the meat right? .your body is the same way, your muscles have all the nutrients ,vitamines,and minerals to keep you going, and if you dont have plentie of vitamines,minerals ect ect your body will take from the first thing thats easiest to get all that from...your muscle. fatts take too long to be broken down and turned back into what your body needs at that moment.

the creatine is more or less a transport for everything you feed your body to your muscles. it floods your muscle cells (or volumizing them) with protiens minerals ect. just making the cell bigger to hold more food, so that the enitre muscle can grow.

your protien shake is just food for your muscles

a meal replacement shake is good for tight sckeduals ,and geting those extra cals that you need .

as for your wk outs ...dont over train yourself and allow recovery time . if you dont or havnt been working out for a long pertiod of time you should be able to add muscle mass fairly easy.


if i was you id stay away from dairy products befor and after your wk outs and even in the morning when you first wake up.. dairy is hard for your body to process, and before and after a wk out your body need quick fast acting protiens/food. when you first wake up you are also in a state of replenishing your body. so make it count give it what it needs to kick start your day.




hope some of this will help.

garryb