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I tried twice to lockout my 455lb deadlift attempts - and I failed!

Combo of poor technique, bad warmup poundages and wrong mental approach meant I didn't get it done :(
I'm not unhappy, I can damn close, but no bacon.

In my first attempt I did ok going up excetp I stiff legged it again and my upper back was curved as hell, all I had to do was lockout, but for some reason the weight swung forward, not sure why I went off balance, and couldn't salvage it.

after 6 mins rest i tried to do it again, this time it felt harder, Again all I had to do was lockout, but I had no gas left once I reached the top. Lack of oxygen too! I saw stars :)

Oh well - I won't be maxing out for a long time now. My body isn't built for deadifting and combined with more poor form, getting inured is only a matter on time.

My warmup was less than ideal it went like this

Powercleans 135 2x2
Deadlifts 185x1, 225x1, 315x1, 365x1
in hindsight I should have done 405x1, 90lbs is big jump and my CNS was alarmed at the heavy feel of 455.

Surprsingly my grip was more than sufficient with chalk.

video - 4.2megs, Please right click on link and save before viewing thanks!

I turned around for the second attempt, just so the mirror wouldn't stuff my concentration, but you get to see my ugly mug :p

http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Movies/CCJ_455lb_DeadliftAttempts.mpg
 
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CCJ> Sounds like you know where your problems lie. Lower the weight for a while and work on correcting your known weaknesses.


.02,
Joker
 
The camera is just sitting on some benches, I turn it on before I lift


Joker - well I don't know if I'll ever do a powerlifter style deadlift anymore. Its just not a productive exercise for me, it interferes with my oly lifts as well. I have to choose between squats and deadlifts, I prefer squats.
 
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I hear ya bro, I need to sneak up on my 1RM. 365, 405, 425 then 455.. Seems like allot of lifting but that's the only way *I* can do it... If I fail a big pull sometimes I can back up and make a successful 2nd run. It's as if my body needs to learn how to pick that new weight up.. wierd but I think you touched on it with the CNS point. Good work anyways.
 
I'm with spectre, I have to sneak up on the heavy stuff by adding small increments during my warmup so that it never really feels that heavy.
It will come, just be patient and stick with your regular training, I dont put any thought into 1 rep maxes and rarely ever do them, and as a result it seems like they go up easier
 
First of all...heck of a try. Heck of a try!!!

Next time....try it barefoot. You were leaning fwd when you failed and could not sit back far enough to lock the weight out...not wearing shoes or wearing Chucks could really help you sit back.

You could try doing deadlifts with bands too...anchor them under your feet and you will have to pull hard, fast, and intense to get the bar to lockout at the top. Doing reverse band deads might help this too...

I know that deads don't directly help you with a lot in your training with the OL lifts. Maybe this well help.

B True
 
nice try man..... i agree with you that your mind set wasnt right. iv see some of your other vids and you look alot more pumped up befor oyu lift in those vids then you did in this one. you got the strength to hit that weight.
soon time you will get that weight up!
 
CCJ,

Sounds like your hips are coming up to quick on the lift. Easily fixed, simply do some deads off of a box. This will reteach your body the proper timing, for pulling your hips through. Your strength sems like it is there, it's just a small technique flaw thats holding you back. Good luck, you'll pull that bitch next time.
 
Thanks for the comments

I'll be back when I'm stronger and smoke this mofo :)

but first I gotta work on my form, that's what I lack, I just muscled it up.
Proper hip drive deadlift form will help me in the first phase of my olylifts of the ground so its worth doing. I'll do some knee cap rack pulls as well

Bfold - yeah I tried banded deads on a podium when I first got the bands, doubled purples with 135lbs, damn hard to lockout! Yeah it does force you to really explode hard off the floor.

My problem is that with oly lifts, you should pull off the flow slowly and then speed up as you approach the knee, sorta 2 phased.
I probably make it more so since I don't acclerate, I basicly pull slow and then boom, without a gradual speedup.
Whereas with the deadlifts that's not the case, so I have bad muscle memory patterns. Something I need to work on.
 
You remember a week or two ago I was asking about doing high pulls and if they would throw my deads off...??? lol....they do just a bit.

B True
 
Speed is one major factor, but the form is what throws me off. Do you think you hesitate at the knee because you have to kind of pull over your knees?

Either way, you're tenacious. I'm sure you'll get it next time. :)
 
Well I have short arms, short torso, and relatively long thighs, that mkaes my knee get in the way of everything. Making me have to start with hips higher up and more forward lean.
With Oly lifts its not a problem, because the knee moves back as you go up, sinc eyou just absicly leg press the weight up.

I may try sumo and see how I go. I use sumo at work to lift things up, it feels good, less lower back and more glute/hams, which I have plenty :)
 
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b fold the truth said:
You remember a week or two ago I was asking about doing high pulls and if they would throw my deads off...??? lol....they do just a bit.

B True
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do them from the hang or from blocks from knee level and you wil be ok. The areas below the knee are a waste of time and energy for you
 
Coolcolj, that was my next question...why not sumo? With your speed and flexibility, as well as glute/hip/ham strength, I bet you'd have a GREAT pull. That 3 step swing the bar goes through in your current pull looks potentially dangerous. Like a deadlift, SLDL hybrid...very hard on the back I'm sure.
 
I have been doing high pulls for the last few weeks, and I think they are actually helping me with my deadlift. (That was the intent when I started them.)

I start the high pulls from the same stance and height as I do my deads. Which, I think, is higher than you are suppose to for "true" correct form olympic lifts.

I have seen that it helps ME explode off the floor and try and use that momentum throughout the lift.

.02,
Joker
 
never pulled a summo with bar in my life, have done some dumbells when lifting stuff of the ground.

yes I have a pair of minis, monster mins, purples and greens.
 
I dont know if this makes a difference, but it does to me....i notice your feet are not in line with the bar...also, it seems as if you are standing to far from the bar when you lift, it appears as if the bar is being pulled in to you and as you raise up, it swings forward.....i make sure i put my shins next to the bar to keep the straight...and i try to almost drag the bar up the shin as i raise....i have found if my feet are not parellel with the bar, my lift dont get all the way up...

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eastarr69 said:
I dont know if this makes a difference, but it does to me....i notice your feet are not in line with the bar...also, it seems as if you are standing to far from the bar when you lift, it appears as if the bar is being pulled in to you and as you raise up, it swings forward.....i make sure i put my shins next to the bar to keep the straight...and i try to almost drag the bar up the shin as i raise....i have found if my feet are not parellel with the bar, my lift dont get all the way up...

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I don't like to stand too close, because my knee is always in the way.

I wish I could drag it up my shins, but its not something I'm keen on :)
 
The closer the weight is to your body, the easier it is to pull. If you were closer, you might not hit your knees because you could pull up and back, rather than the weight swinging into your legs.

I still vote for sumo. I'm confident it's your pull. :D

...but stand close for sumo. Just from a physics perspective.
 
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