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2011 Senate Laziest in Decades

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2011 Senate 'Laziest' in Decades - 2011 saw least-productive session since 1992

Newser) – The 2011 Senate produced less legislation than any other since 1992, according to a report by the chamber's own secretary. Throughout its 170 days, the Senate was in session an average of just 6.5 hours per day; only 2008's Senate had a lower figure, with three members running for president. The 2011 Senate also confirmed just 19,815 nominations, the fewest in 20 years, and passed a total of only 402 measures, the second-fewest since 1992. The data is particularly embarrassing because 2011 wasn't an election year, when productivity typically falls, the Washington Examiner reports.
 
why spend 100's hours in creating a document when it won't be voted on because it came from the "back of the bus"...
 
Tea Party!

/duck

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All we really need is people that enter politics because they want to do the right thing for the country, not what they can get out of it 5-10 yrs down the road. It's supposed to be PUBLIC SERVICE.
 
4 million+ a year in pay and per-diem for 100 people that semi-Work 4 months a year and still cant get shit done.
 
All we really need is people that enter politics because they want to do the right thing for the country, not what they can get out of it 5-10 yrs down the road. It's supposed to be PUBLIC SERVICE.

I agree, but the problem here is the stakes are too high. There's so much to potentially steal that even if you cleaned it up, it would migrate right back to its current level of corruption.

I'd like to see it much, much smaller. Get out of what you can and push as much other activity to the states and local government.
 
I agree, but the problem here is the stakes are too high. There's so much to potentially steal that even if you cleaned it up, it would migrate right back to its current level of corruption.

I'd like to see it much, much smaller. Get out of what you can and push as much other activity to the states and local government.

States are obviously too stupid to know whats good for each of themselves without fed.gov teet sucking oversight
 
I agree, but the problem here is the stakes are too high. There's so much to potentially steal that even if you cleaned it up, it would migrate right back to its current level of corruption.

I'd like to see it much, much smaller. Get out of what you can and push as much other activity to the states and local government.

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I'm not really anti-business, at least I don't try to be but this one struck a cord.

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I'm not really anti-business, at least I don't try to be but this one struck a cord.

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The bankers who did illegal things need to go to jail.

The bankers who exploited artificial markets and bubbles created by our own government deserve awards for creativity and innovation.

But the government people who created the loopholes need to be right in prison next to the bankers who did illegal things.
 
they should just make it a part time job and take away all their benefits. No retirement, no healthcare, and a part time wage so they all have to have real jobs. That should knock out about 90% of the people running.
 
they should just make it a part time job and take away all their benefits. No retirement, no healthcare, and a part time wage so they all have to have real jobs. That should knock out about 90% of the people running.

Agreed! Its no longer a civil duty,

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lame, I win again my link was much better. Sorry.

I picture you sitting in front of your computer yelling "I win the Internet" repeatedly while you are waving your hands above your head.

And you gotta admit, the picture I posted looks a lot like the profile picture you still have sitting in your EF gallery.
 
they should just make it a part time job and take away all their benefits. No retirement, no healthcare, and a part time wage so they all have to have real jobs. That should knock out about 90% of the people running.
I disagree entirely with that idea. I know Texas does and California wants to. Think about the type of people who can afford to take 3-4 months off from their regular jobs to service in gov't? Well to do business owners that have somebody else already running their company at home...i.e. just the people who stand to gain by passing legislation that benefits their industry. There has to be a better way.
 
I disagree entirely with that idea. I know Texas does and California wants to. Think about the type of people who can afford to take 3-4 months off from their regular jobs to service in gov't? Well to do business owners that have somebody else already running their company at home...i.e. just the people who stand to gain by passing legislation that benefits their industry. There has to be a better way.

Why would they need to take so much time off? They could do much of what they do in a LOT less time and a LOT more efficiently. They've already proven that year after year. Much of what they do is just waste time and our money.

What you're describing is what we have now. What I am describing could done by almost anyone. I'm not saying don't pay them. I am saying pay them an hourly rate. It could be $25 an hour, or $125 an hour, but that would be where it stopped. No other perks and benes. Party leaders and speakers could get paid a little more per hour too.

Why would it be only rich or business owners? A stay at home mom could run too, couldn't she? A person who already has one part time job could do it in addition to or instead of that job. Hell, if it was $125 an hour, a person could do it instead of a full time job. That makes me think $125/hour is a bit too much, but it's still just a little over half of what the average congress person or senator is already getting in salary.
 
Too Bad $ is what wins elections CEO. If that wasn't a factor then Non Rich folk would stand a chance in elections.
Until we have an election system similar to Great Brittan parliament, we are doomed to the same shit, different day.

And we have to have some type of benefit system. Congressmen/women have to travel for work and be in D.C. and their districts during their tenure.
We also have to have some type long term members. They provide a stability that would fall apart if the House and Senate were full of people that don't know how shit works. The Lobby's run the shit out of every single person in office and prop up more people for short terms and fund their elections to get bills passed.
 
Too Bad $ is what wins elections CEO. If that wasn't a factor then Non Rich folk would stand a chance in elections.
Until we have an election system similar to Great Brittan parliament, we are doomed to the same shit, different day.

And we have to have some type of benefit system. Congressmen/women have to travel for work and be in D.C. and their districts during their tenure.
We also have to have some type long term members. They provide a stability that would fall apart if the House and Senate were full of people that don't know how shit works. The Lobby's run the shit out of every single person in office and prop up more people for short terms and fund their elections to get bills passed.

Agreed.

The stakes are so high that there will always be people ready to steal.

The only way out is to make sure there's less to steal. Then people who actually want to serve will have a shot at those Senate & Representative jobs.
 
Why would they need to take so much time off? They could do much of what they do in a LOT less time and a LOT more efficiently. They've already proven that year after year. Much of what they do is just waste time and our money.

What you're describing is what we have now. What I am describing could done by almost anyone. I'm not saying don't pay them. I am saying pay them an hourly rate. It could be $25 an hour, or $125 an hour, but that would be where it stopped. No other perks and benes. Party leaders and speakers could get paid a little more per hour too.

Why would it be only rich or business owners? A stay at home mom could run too, couldn't she? A person who already has one part time job could do it in addition to or instead of that job. Hell, if it was $125 an hour, a person could do it instead of a full time job. That makes me think $125/hour is a bit too much, but it's still just a little over half of what the average congress person or senator is already getting in salary.

1. It's not like they're meeting on weekends. They meet full time for 3-4 months every other year.
2. That means they have to live/stay in the state capital for that time period. A stay at home mom can't be away from kids or laundry that long, unless she's rich and hires an illegal house maid.
3. They have to pay for food & lodging for which they may get some per diem...which eats in the savings of the whole deal.
 
I picture you sitting in front of your computer yelling "I win the Internet" repeatedly while you are waving your hands above your head.

And you gotta admit, the picture I posted looks a lot like the profile picture you still have sitting in your EF gallery.


and you gotta admit your avi looks kind of like the dolt that had a cock rocket shot down her throat at 80mph. Why if we got you all up in drag I'd say we could make a show of it. C'mon, you already go to tranny bars "just for fun", <---lols
 
and you gotta admit your avi looks kind of like the dolt that had a cock rocket shot down her throat at 80mph. Why if we got you all up in drag I'd say we could make a show of it. C'mon, you already go to tranny bars "just for fun", <---lols

ololololol!

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and you gotta admit your avi looks kind of like the dolt that had a cock rocket shot down her throat at 80mph. Why if we got you all up in drag I'd say we could make a show of it. C'mon, you already go to tranny bars "just for fun", <---lols

You always go gay on your hyperbole.

That's an obvious sign of repression. My theory is that being rejected by females so long has activated those inferior genes of yours to turn toward the sausage.

It's all for the best though. I think we'd both agree you shouldn't reproduce.
 
You always go gay on your hyperbole.

That's an obvious sign of repression. My theory is that being rejected by females so long has activated those inferior genes of yours to turn toward the sausage.

It's all for the best though. I think we'd both agree you shouldn't reproduce.


and neither should you, we don't need anymore Rush Limbaugh Jr.'s in the world. Oh and ruminate on the gay hyperbole next time you have a tranny lap dancing you at cutters while you "allegedly" are not turned on. Lols
 
but if fed congress and senate were forced to be part time that means more things delegated to state (where they should be), and less time needed in fed. Less legislation needing to be passed. Push more lobbyists down to state level.

As far as "knowing how shit works" lol @ any of those jokers knowing how anything in real life works. They know how politics in Washington works, yeah (completely corrupt). But that's part of what needs to be changed. Take the politics out of politics and get down to business.

Nothing's going to change anyway...at least not for the better for the people (politicians yes). Maybe another revolution?
 
but if fed congress and senate were forced to be part time that means more things delegated to state (where they should be), and less time needed in fed. Less legislation needing to be passed. Push more lobbyists down to state level.

As far as "knowing how shit works" lol @ any of those jokers knowing how anything in real life works. They know how politics in Washington works, yeah (completely corrupt). But that's part of what needs to be changed. Take the politics out of politics and get down to business.

Nothing's going to change anyway...at least not for the better for the people (politicians yes). Maybe another revolution?


You are definitely on to something unlike the others who posted their alarming, overgeneralized opinions.The social science term that is escaping you is called "federalism." Federalism:a union of states under a central government distinct from that of the separate states, who retain certain individual powers under the central government (Websters). This what the founders wanted when they framed the constitution. The framers knew they had to replace the Articles of Confederation because they knew the Articles did not establish a workable governing system in which the state and federal governments could exist with each one with its own discrete purpose. Consequently, you have the Bill of Rights, which confirms what you were trying to say.

The Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Prior to the Progressive Movement (1890-1920), there was minimal government intervention with states, states were pretty much sovereign bodies. However, the robber barons were engaging in monopoly-capitalism, which started somewhat of a "revolution." People resorted to anarchism, communism, and numerous labor stikes were occurring. Hence, this brought the government in to implement regulation and a host of other government entities, which took power away from the states and expanded the Federal Government. That was totally contrary to how the founders wanted the Federal Government to function.

In "Federalist 39," James Madison wrote, in part, "Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution." Now it is a NATIONAL constitution...

Moreover, thanks to presidents like Wilson who, signed the 17th Amendment, with the ratification of the states (which caused the state's demise), changed the method by which senators were chosen. Senators were selected by the "state legislatures - ensuring that the state governments would have a direct voice in the operation of federal government, but the 17th Amendment splintered that in a million pieces, that is why senators are so political nowadays, and operate from self-preservation rather than for the people..

Then you have FDR's New Deal, which expanded governement. LBJ's War on Poverty, which expanded government. Bush and Obama going on spending frenzies to bailout businesses, in return taking them over, and again expanding government...

The federal government is enormous and it is never going to deflate. The federal bureaucracy consists of a workforce of nearly 2 million civilian people, with a budget over $3 trillion a year. There are nearly one thousand federal departments, agencies, and divisions that make laws and enforce them. The official compilation of rules issued by the federal government, the Federal Register, contained 74,937 pages of regulations in 2006. The estimated cost of simply complying with these regulations was $1.14 trillion. The National Taxpayers Union estimated that in 2006, US businesses and individuals spent 6.65 billion hours struggling to comply with the complexities of the tax code, at a cost of $156.5 billion in lost productivity for businesses alone.

It is gone and it is never coming back, government is way to big now, it would take 100 years to cut it in half..





References:

Mark Levin, Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto.

The Federalist Papers, Hamilton, Madison, Jay.

Lori Montgomery, "Congress Passes $3 Trillion Budget," Washington Post, June 6, 2008, A03.

"LSU Libraries Federal Agencies Directory," Louisiana State University, July 23, 2007, LSU Libraries --

Clyde Wayne Crews, Jr., "Ten Thousand Commandments 2007: An Annual Snapshot of the Federal Regulatory State," Competitive Enterprise Institute, 2000, 2.

David Keating, "A Taxing Trend: The Rise in Complexity, Forms, and Paperwork Burdens," NTU Policy Paper 124, National Taxpayers Union, April 16, 2007, 3.
 
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