1st Post... EF is full of wisdom!

[digitizedsoul]

Ok so this is my first post to the board here, but I have been a reader for a long time now trying to absorb all you guys various conversations and debates. All in all I must say that there's a whole helluva lot of wisdom floating around here and I would consider myself lucky to have any of it shared with me.

But anyway, here goes.

I'm 6' tall, turning 22 in july, current weight is 175lbs, and my only previous cycle experience consists of a winny and M1T stack last fall. I had little to no guidance, had obviously not discovered EF yet, and stayed on the M1T for too long and at too high a dose. I got what I believe to be a mild case of gyno from it. Itchy nipples, puffed out, little lumps the whole deal. Killed how I looked in a wife beater from the winny.

Anyway after that experience and after choking out the bastard that convinced me to take it with bad instructions and advice I decided to do some real homework and meet actually intelligent people to seek advice from, and here I am.

I put together a Sust / EQ cycle which I started 3 weeks ago at 250mg 2x wk Sust and 200mg 2x wk EQ. Buddy I got it from is competing for Mr. Georgia apparently and seems very knowledgable. I'm planning for 10wks at this current dose, but next week (wk 4) I wanted to add in something to start hardening up and possibly promote keeping these test gains i'm making after I PCT. Winny will probably be in there for sure, but what else? I've heard you guys mention anavar (var) a lot, but i'm not very familiar with that like I am Sust / Winny besides the profiles of it on various websites.

Also I read up on Mr. X's posts and of course the other mod's who throw in on the topic of gyno, and I decided to get some letrozole to start taking now to prevent any further problems as I get into this cycle and to hopefuly break down some of the existing gyno. Its not very much, just enough to annoy the piss out of me in any shirt I wear or anytime i raise my arms over my head.

Thanks in advance, and don't flame me too much for my newbieness...

 

[bilter]

Second cycle and you want to stack 3-4 compounds? You don't need to. the eq will hardern you up nicely. 10 weeks is not long enough for eq though, you should run at least 12 weeks, preferably 14 to 16.

 

[tiggerizme]

That was a long first post but welcome.

 

[taoiron]

Welcome bro...

 

[RADAR]

bilter hit it right on target, run the eq longer it's just starting to work, allow it to fully do it's job!

RADAR

 

[digitizedsoul]

bilter hit it right on target, run the eq longer it's just starting to work, allow it to fully do it's job!

RADAR

Ok... so 12wks minimum for the EQ gotcha. Should I keep the dose at 400mg a week with two 200mg pins ? Mon / thurs? Also no reason to not drop the sust off at wk 10 as planned ?

I guess I understimated EQ's time to kick in. I was told 3-4wks to start seeing effects just like with the sust.

Oh and did anyone catch my part about the letrozole? I got some from ag guys but how do you administer it? I've never used a bottle / setup like this before.

 

[bilter]

I actually would have started the eq a few weeks before the eq (but its too late for that). Anyway, being that you are where you are I would run the sust the same amount of time you are on eq. As far ast the letro I'll let someone that has exp with it chime in. I always use nolva / adex. Measure out the letro in a syringe. I think the eq dose is fine. you're using 500 PW of sust so shoot both twice per week in the same syringe. Good luck and make sure you do proper PCT for this cycle. Pay special attention to when you start,(don't start it too soon)

 

[digitizedsoul]

Measure out the letro in a syringe.... Good luck and make sure you do proper PCT for this cycle. Pay special attention to when you start,(don't start it too soon)

Yeah someone with some letrozole experience do you inject the stuff? Drink it? Apply it like AIFM? I'm just going on the picture I saw on their site, haven't received it yet.

Also PCT start time, I believe i've read 2wks after the last shot? And bilter, for the nolva were you doing orals or the liquid kind from ag guys? I'm guessing it gets in you the same way as letrozole...

 

[bilter]

Yeah someone with some letrozole experience do you inject the stuff? Drink it? Apply it like AIFM? I'm just going on the picture I saw on their site, haven't received it yet.

Also PCT start time, I believe i've read 2wks after the last shot? And bilter, for the nolva were you doing orals or the liquid kind from ag guys? I'm guessing it gets in you the same way as letrozole...

The liquid letro is an oral (do not injrect it!!), squirt it in your mouth and down some OJ. If its like the liquinol it taste like shit (or so my rats say). 14 day would be an OK (some wait 3 weeks) time to start PCT but I run a 5 week PCT after eq just to be sure I do not end it too soon

 

[INNOCENT]

welcome , glad to have ya here, lots of great info in the diff. forums too

 

[digitizedsoul]

welcome , glad to have ya here, lots of great info in the diff. forums too

Yeah brother your not kidding. The "variety" of forums here is really amazing. I have always tried to find a place to discuss these types of things whether it be anabolics, sex related stuff, every day life when trying to stay in good shape and all that....... good stuff..


Anyway for anyone with an opinion on it, what would be detrimental about starting the letro early to start helping my existing gyno? Possibly at a lose dose and up it 3wks after last shot? I'm not trying to sound impatient, only wondering if I could save time this way since my wedding and honeymoon are coming up in july and i don't want these damn sacks of whatever on my pecs anymore

 

[bigcountry61]

Welcome run EQ longer IMO