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1st EQ Cycle - need input

justinjones1963

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I am getting ready (in four weeks) for my first injectable cycle w/ EQ. I have my PCT, diet and workout schedule down cold and for the sake of brevity I will not rehash what many other posts on the board have gone over regarding these.

I am going to limit my cycle to EQ 300 mg / wk for 15 weeks since it is my first try with EQ. I have read many posts and guides etc. and I know 400 mg is recommended but I have seen info that shows 300 mg will give good results. Since this is my first injectable cycle I am not going to stack it with another injectable (I will see how this goes and wait for my next cycle). Also, I plan on 50 mg of winny ed for the last 4 weeks.

I want to front load with dbol or turinibol. The only other oral I have used is winny and my gains were insane. I gained 45 lbs on my bench in 6 weeks and lost close to 20 pounds (it was a cutting cycle) and I didn't have any side effects. I kept all of my gains too.

I am fully aware of the side effects of dbol and turinibol - dbol will be more harsh on my system but the gains will be better. My goal on this cycle is to make consistent solid gains though. I am not going for 30 lbs of mass (which will not happen with 300 mg of EQ anyway) but I am considering using turnibol at 40 mg daily for the first four weeks (maybe five weeks because I have read that is better) rather than the dbol. Any preferences? I am using EQ because I still have some fat I need to shed. Once I get to where I want to be then I will address my needs for my next cycle.

Any input is appreciated.

On a final note I am in my 30’s and I enjoy bodybuilding and having a healthy body – that is also one reason to keep this cycle simple. I did blood work etc. for my winny cycle and everything was perfect – I want to keep it that way. I am also disciplined and patient and I have all of the time in the world to do another cycle down the road. I’ve read too many horror stories of people stacking crazy s*it for their first cycle – I refuse to do that.
 
I don't think you can go wrong either way. It seems like your staying on the side of caution so you mind as well choose tbol and see were it gets ya.
wks1-4 40mg tbol
wks1-15 300mg eq
wks14-17 50mg winny

Rember it's mostly about DIET not particulary the compound!!
 
I would do dbol for the extra gains but you might as well do the tbol as it is a close second but with the added benefit of no water retention. Tbol & EQ will allow you to stay cut and lean for the sacrifice of a very small amount of your gains. If it was test and not EQ, I'd say dbol as the test will bloat you anyway so it negates tbols added benefit of no water retention. :)

UglyASS
 
I say run 500mg/wk of EQ. I ran a little over 400 and got the mild gains I needed. If I were to do it again though I would run 500.
 
i found running eq at a higher dose.... 400-600mg wk was very effective for myself.. but again i dont know your stats.. i was around 225 at the time
 
Complaints about the lack of EQ's effectiveness correlate closely to having a doseage of 400mg weekly or below. The majority of experimental rats seem to enjoy noticeably better gains with limited side effects in the 500-600mg range, weekly without having much worry of side effects.

At least, those are the rats that have spoken with me. Some rats don't talk to me, and the mean, nasty rats who don't talk, well, I don't know what they were taking.
 
everything looks good except i disagree with runnin tbol for 5 weeks. im on it now and running it for 4 is plenty to jumpstart
 
also, are you taking oral winny tabs or depot?? if they are tabs, id run it for 6 weeks. this is what id do:
40mg tbol ed 1-4
300mg/wk eq 1-15
50mg ed winny 12-17
next day start pct.
 
I'm running the same cycle except my eq was frontloaded @ 600mg the first 4 weeks, then I dropped it to 400 for 12 more weeks. I stacked it with tbol the first 4 weeks, and have since been running winny and proviron. I also have a low dose of test in there (125mg/wk). After I run out of the winny, which should be around week 12, I will do tbol again while continuing the proviron. I gotta tell you that this has been an awesome stack! I haven't really been able to gain any weight, but I am down around 6% bf. My appetitie is getting out of hand too. I started out @ 195, 10% bf, and now I'm about 197, 6-7% bf (last check was 6.5). Seems like I can drop fat like it's nothin these days.
 
I'm taking winny tabs not depot - I have plenty of it so 6 weeks would not be a problem.

I need to lose some BF - test is on my list for my next cycle :o)

Once again - thanks for all of the input!
 
tzan said:
I don't think you can go wrong either way. It seems like your staying on the side of caution so you mind as well choose tbol and see were it gets ya.
wks1-4 40mg tbol
wks1-15 300mg eq
wks14-17 50mg winny

Rember it's mostly about DIET not particulary the compound!!
this advice is spot on what i would say !!
run the winny 2 weeks longer than the eq, so once you've finished the winny you can go straight into your pct.
tbol will give you plenty of gains you are looking for with this cycle, so skip the dbol.
and remember, the eq is not going to cut your fat, your diet is
 
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