1st cycle sust.250

[sethsdad1]

need help/critique with my 1st cycle as i am confused as shit with forum after forum of all of this excellent info that i can't pick just one so i am going to throw this out and ask for some help from you bros.

40 yrs old 5 8" 192 10-11 bf

running sust 250 tues. - fri. .05 cc to equal the 250 mg. 8 weeks.

i have adex, nolva, clomid and aifm on hand and want to know what i should run with this cycle. i have a grasp on what i should do with pct.

any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[acneman]

need help/critique with my 1st cycle as i am confused as shit with forum after forum of all of this excellent info that i can't pick just one so i am going to throw this out and ask for some help from you bros.

40 yrs old 5 8" 192 10-11 bf

running sust 250 tues. - fri. .05 cc to equal the 250 mg. 8 weeks.

i have adex, nolva, clomid and aifm on hand and want to know what i should run with this cycle. i have a grasp on what i should do with pct.

any help will be greatly appreciated.

opps i didnt see that
i would go with 1 cc tues/fri
to total 500mg/week
for sure
sorry i didnt catch that earlier
i think that most will agree with that for a first cycle

at 250mg/week of sus a lot of people wont need to run ancillary drugs to combat estrogen but having them on hand is a good idea in case they do start to be a problem
look for water retention and sore itchy nipples
if that happens start nolva/arimidex imediatly

if you go with 500mg/week go ahead and use the arimidex or aifm
i know i havent spelled out every thing in our pm's
and im sure you will get plenty of ready made complete cycles suggested
but i feel that to do it right the individual must produce a complete plan on his own and then have it tweaked
this will give the individual a more complete understanding of what hes doing and a cycle is so personal that your own informed decisions are always going to be the best course
good luck and im looking forward to the other replies to this thread because im always lookin to learn

 

[sethsdad1]

always appreciate your opinions acneman. do i change up next tuesday to run the 500 mg if i've already run 250? i guess since i just started this low dose it shouldn't matter correct?

 

[solidspine]

Agreed

500mg per week of suston weeks 1-10

Also

Take Nolvadex and AIFM for anti-e

Finish with

HCG, AIFM, Nolvadex & if your brave you can try Clomid.

 

[Bruce]

honestly to get the most out of sustanon you need to run it EOD. the prop ester is worthless otherwise.

 

[needtogetaas]

honestly to get the most out of sustanon you need to run it EOD. the prop ester is worthless otherwise.

I have allways said this to.

 

[sethsdad1]

solid- so take the aifm and nolva if onsets of gyno become present or just precaution. how much do you think?
i've been hearing some good things about hcg and need to research some more.

 

[mookie]

honestly to get the most out of sustanon you need to run it EOD. the prop ester is worthless otherwise.

I disagree with you on that I think twice a week is fine you can even run it once a week you may lose a little on the prop but there is only 30mg anyway. Whats up anyway you haven't posted much lately.

 

[gettnlarge01]

ED injections of sust work better!!

 

[mookie]

ED injections of sust work better!!

Why would you have to inject sus ed?

 

[Selene]

opps i didnt see that
i would go with 1 cc tues/fri
to total 500mg/week
for sure
sorry i didnt catch that earlier
i think that most will agree with that for a first cycle

at 250mg/week of sus a lot of people wont need to run ancillary drugs to combat estrogen but having them on hand is a good idea in case they do start to be a problem
look for water retention and sore itchy nipples
if that happens start nolva/arimidex imediatly

if you go with 500mg/week go ahead and use the arimidex or aifm
i know i havent spelled out every thing in our pm's
and im sure you will get plenty of ready made complete cycles suggested
but i feel that to do it right the individual must produce a complete plan on his own and then have it tweaked
this will give the individual a more complete understanding of what hes doing and a cycle is so personal that your own informed decisions are always going to be the best course
good luck and im looking forward to the other replies to this thread because im always lookin to learn

as always good advise mon cheri

 

[gettnlarge01]

Why would you have to inject sus ed?

Prop is wasted when injected only twice a week. The point of using sust is to take advantage of the different esters if not then just use cyp or enth.

 

[mookie]

Prop is wasted when injected only twice a week. The point of using sust is to take advantage of the different esters if not then just use cyp or enth.

There is only 30mg of prop if you were going to shoot ed just use prop alone.

 

[acneman]

well i think the issue is that sus is what he has so if he sticks with 500mg/week he needs to do 4 1/2cc shots a week?
seth if your willin to do that go for it
at a 1/2 cc it might even lessen the pain
and again i think since you have arimidex and your gonna run 500mg i would use it
save nolva for gyno symptoms mid cycle if any
and for pct


see im learnin

 

[gettnlarge01]

There is only 30mg of prop if you were going to shoot ed just use prop alone.

I'll run sust when using tren ace because I'm injecting the tren ed anyway. I don't use sust unless I'm injecting it ed otherwise for me its a waste.

 

[sethsdad1]

i just want to thank everyone here, you guys are effin awesome!! thats what keeps me here. learning and getting bigger.

 

[sethsdad1]

i will update.

 

[Twoguns]

I am on week 5 of sus. I shoot 1 cc (250mg) on sun and thurs night (500mg/wk). I ran 4 weeks of dbol at 50 mg day. used aifm ed 2-3 squits and now just started aromasin 50 mg at night ed because nipples hurt. My friends are suspicious as fuck at the gym. my buddy who knows i am saucing told me that is should stop because it is too obvious. I am up 17 lbs so far. I plan on running it for a total of 12 weeks. My traps are fucking mountains and my necks has blown up. I have put on body fat but can still see my abs. I am a big fan of sus so far. looking foward to using tren in the spring.

 

[sethsdad1]

yeah i can see that happening to me as well. i'm pretty thick now and can expect the sust to jack it up another notch. are you still using the aifm ed now? i just got mine in and love that stuff. what are you going to take for pct?

 

[digimon7068]

honestly to get the most out of sustanon you need to run it EOD. the prop ester is worthless otherwise.

monday night, wednesday night, saturday morning works ok for me. . .also, like the other's said, 500 ew would be baseline for me. . .however, i used 250 ew (in one inject) for 8 weeks. . .along with dbol at 25 - 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks and winny tabs at 25 - 30mg ed for the last for weeks. . .followed by 3 weeks of clomid and got nice results

 

[sethsdad1]

monday night, wednesday night, saturday morning works ok for me. . .also, like the other's said, 500 ew would be baseline for me. . .however, i used 250 ew (in one inject) for 8 weeks. . .along with dbol at 25 - 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks and winny tabs at 25 - 30mg ed for the last for weeks. . .followed by 3 weeks of clomid and got nice results

i would like to have that freedom but with the wife and 5 kids thats a little difficult. thanks dig, point well taken

 

[digimon7068]

i would like to have that freedom but with the wife and 5 kids thats a little difficult. thanks dig, point well taken

Shoot. . .I got a wife, three kids, a cat, a beta fish, a hermit crab and I work 7 mudduh fuggin days a week.

 

[boz44]

I am on week 5 of sus. I shoot 1 cc (250mg) on sun and thurs night (500mg/wk). I ran 4 weeks of dbol at 50 mg day. used aifm ed 2-3 squits and now just started aromasin 50 mg at night ed because nipples hurt. My friends are suspicious as fuck at the gym. my buddy who knows i am saucing told me that is should stop because it is too obvious. I am up 17 lbs so far. I plan on running it for a total of 12 weeks. My traps are fucking mountains and my necks has blown up. I have put on body fat but can still see my abs. I am a big fan of sus so far. looking foward to using tren in the spring.

I am also going into week 4 of Sustanon. 250 on Monday 250 on Friday. Did dbol 30 mgs a week for two weeks. Up twenty two pounds so far. Same thing, wife keeps telling me to back off, it's becoming too obvious. I hate to tell her, that is exactly what I am wanting to hear!!! My only problem is I have no appetite. I can drink all my calories and protein, but I can't force myself to eat. I know that is terrible and I'm not getting the most. Sticking yourself and working out are the easy parts. Eating is a bitch.

 

[Twoguns]

yeah, people telling me it is obvious, I love that shit. I am going the clomid and Nolva route for pct. still 3 pumps Aifm ed on forearms/wrists. no skin irritation. By the way, I am using Stealth Gear.

 

[sethsdad1]

yeah, people telling me it is obvious, I love that shit. I am going the clomid and Nolva route for pct. still 3 pumps Aifm ed on forearms/wrists. no skin irritation. By the way, I am using Stealth Gear.

nice. thats what i am going to do for pct. have all of the other stuff on hand in case of gyno.

 

[gettnlarge01]

i would like to have that freedom but with the wife and 5 kids thats a little difficult. thanks dig, point well taken

I have taken an amp a day and I have have a wife,3kids and a business to run.

 

[sethsdad1]

I have taken an amp a day and I have have a wife,3kids and a business to run.

she has no clue but will raise questions when i get around 205 plus. its just a little difficult you know?

 

[Ulter]

While I agree ED or EOD is best you can easily get by on doing Mon morning Thurs night injectiong. I also agree that you should be using 500mg/wk. Use 2 sprays twice a day of AIFM while on and 2/day while doing PCT. Hold on to your Nolva because AIFM is enough. Be sure not to keep putting it on the same place every day.

 

[sethsdad1]

While I agree ED or EOD is best you can easily get by on doing Mon morning Thurs night injectiong. I also agree that you should be using 500mg/wk. Use 2 sprays twice a day of AIFM while on and 2/day while doing PCT. Hold on to your Nolva because AIFM is enough. Be sure not to keep putting it on the same place every day.

thanks ulter. i did a complete research top to bottom on aifm due to your posts/recommendations and am 100% sold on it. so the wrists, forearms, top of feet are a good rotation correct?

 

[Ulter]

Yes, that's right

 

[gettnlarge01]

she has no clue but will raise questions when i get around 205 plus. its just a little difficult you know?

I guess its easier for me since my wife knows what I do. Hell,she has even given me injections before!!

 

[sethsdad1]

I guess its easier for me since my wife knows what I do. Hell,she has even given me injections before!!

aww man do i envy you.

 

[rg78]

There is only 30mg of prop if you were going to shoot ed just use prop alone.

agreed

 

[boz44]

aww man do i envy you.

Research the hrt route. That is how I sold it to my wife. Just told her I was depressed, no sex drive, test was low, etc... Now she is all for it and loves the sex everynight. Plus it is legal.

 

[sethsdad1]

Research the hrt route. That is how I sold it to my wife. Just told her I was depressed, no sex drive, test was low, etc... Now she is all for it and loves the sex everynight. Plus it is legal.

^ that. will do the research boz, thanks man.

 

[sethsdad1]

well i think the issue is that sus is what he has so if he sticks with 500mg/week he needs to do 4 1/2cc shots a week?
seth if your willin to do that go for it
at a 1/2 cc it might even lessen the pain
and again i think since you have arimidex and your gonna run 500mg i would use it
save nolva for gyno symptoms mid cycle if any
and for pct


see im learnin

started this am, bumped to 250mg 1 shot (went smooothly) then following up thurs. afternoon with another 250mg. no pain this a.m. thank goodness.

 

[acneman]

started this am, bumped to 250mg 1 shot (went smooothly) then following up thurs. afternoon with another 250mg. no pain this a.m. thank goodness.

that sounds good
if you dont get 100% of the benifit because of the prop ester i still thing your gonna get mid 90% so thats good enough for most of the people on here as most recomend a 2 per week or every 3 day injection schedule for sus

 

[sethsdad1]

that sounds good
if you dont get 100% of the benifit because of the prop ester i still thing your gonna get mid 90% so thats good enough for most of the people on here as most recomend a 2 per week or every 3 day injection schedule for sus

sweet. i will keep you posted acneman. thanks again !!

 

[sethsdad1]

Hey bros. a little update on my 1st cycle, beginning week 7, currently running 250 sust. mon and thurs.= 500mg, up to 203 lbs. 13-15 % bf 2 sprays aifm twice a day and no problems. is there anything else that i could run with this cycle? plan on running this 10 - 12 weeks.

 

[boz44]

Hey bros. a little update on my 1st cycle, beginning week 7, currently running 250 sust. mon and thurs.= 500mg, up to 203 lbs. 13-15 % bf 2 sprays aifm twice a day and no problems. is there anything else that i could run with this cycle? plan on running this 10 - 12 weeks.

I added Deca around week 6. 150 mg twice a week. Seems to be doing fine. My shoulder and back don't hurt, so I'd say it is doing it's job.

 

[humble]

Agreed

500mg per week of suston weeks 1-10

Also

Take Nolvadex and AIFM for anti-e

Finish with

HCG, AIFM, Nolvadex & if your brave you can try Clomid.

I would use clomid over nolvadex for this cycle.

 

[stressman13]

honestly to get the most out of sustanon you need to run it EOD. the prop ester is worthless otherwise.

Not entirely true Bruce. I know of people that had ran prop 3x a week and made gains. This is obviously not the correct way to run it for maximal gains etc etc but that doesnt mean its totally worthless. Same for the prop in the sus. A waste yes, worthless, not totally. JMO

 

[sethsdad1]

Hey bros. a little update on my 1st cycle, beginning week 7, currently running 250 sust. mon and thurs.= 500mg, up to 203 lbs. 13-15 % bf 2 sprays aifm twice a day and no problems. is there anything else that i could run with this cycle? plan on running this 10 - 12 weeks.

sorry guys, should be more specific. i have plenty of pct on hand..nolva and clomid which i will run 3 weeks 14 days after last inj. currently 2 sprays 2 times a day aifm.
curious what else i could run with this cycle; i have eq, test e, test prop, tren ace, anavar, winny and some dbol.

 

[GetBig10]

good luck bro

 

[mookie]

sorry guys, should be more specific. i have plenty of pct on hand..nolva and clomid which i will run 3 weeks 14 days after last inj. currently 2 sprays 2 times a day aifm.
curious what else i could run with this cycle; i have eq, test e, test prop, tren ace, anavar, winny and some dbol.

If you are going to run anything I would run the winny or var being your 1st cycle I wouldn't get to crazy save the eq for another time it would just start kicking in when you were ready to start your pct, save the test for your next cycle and the tren, and next time do the dbol in the begining. Personally I don't like winny so I would start the var now til your ready for pct.

 

[sethsdad1]

If you are going to run anything I would run the winny or var being your 1st cycle I wouldn't get to crazy save the eq for another time it would just start kicking in when you were ready to start your pct, save the test for your next cycle and the tren, and next time do the dbol in the begining. Personally I don't like winny so I would start the var now til your ready for pct.

thanks mookie. just wanted to ge a couple of good inputs.

 

[Twoguns]

Hey man, I am in week 9 of my sus cycle 500 mg/week. Just added 50mg/day winny for the last four weeks. Day three on that shit and I swear I can see a difference already. Cutting my carbs down and upping the water. Killer leg blast today with a trainer at the gym who has suddenly "taken an interest in my training" he he he