1st cycle, need experienced advice

[djimo]

I've been training seriously for 5 years. Changed many training routines and my diet is very good. I've never used any type of AAS, only supplements.

My stats : height 6ft 4, weight 210, bf is 13, age 23. Im eating 300g of protein, 200 carbohydrats and 50g of good fat daily in 6 meals.

My goals: -to get small amount of lean muscle around 3-4kg(8-9lb).
- to get dryness, hardness on muscle and vascularity.
- to get more strenght.
My main goal is to keep gained as most as i can.
I was told many stories and versions what to take and how. Anavar alone, winstrol and proviron together, or tbol and winny. So guys what is best choice for me?

Thanks in forward!

 

[Arabian]

How did you hear about Elite Fitness? What type of supplements have you used? You can use the search function to answer your questions.

 

[deejleos]

I've been training seriously for 5 years. Changed many training routines and my diet is very good. I've never used any type of AAS, only supplements.

My stats : height 6ft 4, weight 210, bf is 13, age 23. Im eating 300g of protein, 200 carbohydrats and 50g of good fat daily in 6 meals.

My goals: -to get small amount of lean muscle around 3-4kg(8-9lb).
- to get dryness, hardness on muscle and vascularity.
- to get more strenght.
My main goal is to keep gained as most as i can.
I was told many stories and versions what to take and how. Anavar alone, winstrol and proviron together, or tbol and winny. So guys what is best choice for me?

Thanks in forward!

U come up with a cycle, and then we help by giving our opinion. Research then come back


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[djimo]

How did you hear about Elite Fitness? What type of supplements have you used? You can use the search function to answer your questions.

Found it via google. Constant use of whey, bcaa. Used few N.O. reactors. Yea i can search ppl comments and logs but it isnt same when i create cycle with my conclusion only and some who did this before tell me what to do.

 

[djimo]

@deejleos

So what about winny and proviron. winny- 50mg/day
Proviron 20mg/day
All that 4 weeks.
Following with hard trening and strict diet, will it help me with my goals?

 

[Arabian]

Found it via google. Constand use of whey, bcaa. Used few N.O. reactors. Yea i can search ppl comments and logs but it isnt same when i create cycle with my conclusion only and some who did this before tell me what to do.

Very nice, what have your friends advised you to take for your first cycle? What supplements have they recommended? What PCT (post cycle therapy) have you thought about?

 

[djimo]

Very nice, what have your friends advised you to take for your first cycle? What supplements have they recommended? What PCT (post cycle therapy) have you thought about?

Wrote cycle in last post. Supps whey and bcaa, was told to do 2 weeks of nolva as PCT. But i read in stickes nolva isnt good... So what to do?

 

[on_a_mission2day]

Wrote cycle in last post. Supps whey and bcaa, was told to do 2 weeks of nolva as PCT. But i read in stickes nolva isnt good... So what to do?

Buddy not being rude or anything, but u need to do ALOT more research before thinking of doing any type of AAS. It isnt a joke and your health is very important.

I suggest keep doing what your doing and taking your time to learn about AAS.

A suggest spending an hour a day for the next few days or perhaps weeks reading and researching this site starting with reading the stickies in the relevant forums.

Then come back, post what a "proper" cycle you want to run including PCT, training and diet. Then these lovely people on EF can help you totally fine tune everything so u are safe and get the maximum gains possible.

All the best bro

 

[djimo]

Okey mate, appriciate everything u said but i see it is so hard to tell something more. If i did a lot od cycles and have much experience about AAS i'd be glad to give advice to some guy who is new to all of this.

 

[on_a_mission2day]

Okey mate, appriciate everything u said but i see it is so hard to tell something more. If i did a lot od cycles and have much experience about AAS i'd be glad to give advice to some guy who is new to all of this.

The thing is there is ALOT to know about AAS.

If u really want a good starting point, read the sticky on "so you want to do steroids" (or something along those lines on this website

Then I suggest reading some "logs" on the various types of AAS. The detailed logs are the ones you want to read cause people who have run them have basically put all their information down to a TEE. Decide whether u want to do orals, injectibles or possibly something with less sides and suppression such as sarms...

The logs will give you a good indication of avoiding side effects (or dealing with them), how your training and diet along with the right dosages can get you results, what realistic results to expect and also how to have an effective PCT to ensure you hold on to as much gains as possible from your cycle and to ensure u dont get "shut down".

Mate, im only trying to help u out. There is alot to know, and proper research and time will ensure u stay safe. Just by someone feeding you BS (like ur friends who allegedly "know" about how to construct AAS cycles) will get you into trouble. The aim of this site is to ensure everyone understands the complexities of using gear and staying safe while using it through knowledge.

All the best...

 

[dylangemelli]

yeah bro... i for one, help every single person that needs help in any way that I can, but you have to have some sort of idea of what you want to do and then I can guide you through it, fix it, etc... You can't just come into a forum and say he, what should i take? that's not how these work... wer'e here to help and guide but you HAVE to put in some time and effort... you don't go into these things blind... do you walk into a casino and go to the craps or blackjack table and say "how do you play"... or do you do research and go in with some kind of idea and THEN learn from others... do you try to play a sport and just show up and say, "how do i play?" without some sort of research or idea? that's just not how you do anything in life bro... do some research, get an idea, come back and i gurantee you i'll be one of the first people to help you out...

 

[TheSVPdeal]

On a Mission and Dylan are dead on.

Bro, I'm 32 and read about this stuff for a year before I got started with it. I had also been training for over a decade.

We just want what is best for everyone.

You seem like you are doing well now. Check out everything that you can on the site here.

 

[djimo]

Okay guys, thanks. Cheers.

 

[Judo Tom]

welcome to elite! You can get a great amount of help here so I hope you stick around.

Here is a little something that I think you should research and let us know what you think about. Helladrol.

It is a legal steroid that can give you some nice gains. Look into it and let me know what you think.