1st cycle - having read some of the opinions here

[black sheep]

If he is looking for 7-10lbs of mass that he will keep, why not point him in the direction of EQ, IMO the quality of gains are much better than deca. Maybe EQ - Prop - winny, or Test - EQ cycle, or maybe even EQ - Prop - Fina, all very good cycles to gain 10lbs and keep it, all while getting strong and vascular IMO.

 

[mekannik]

Thanks to everyone for the input.

However I'm still a little cloudy regarding Arimidex or Clomid mid cycle.

If going with Test @ 500mg/wk - would gyno be a high risk concern? Or is this still a low enough amount to minimize the effect?


The only other addition at this point would most likely be 200 mg/week of Deca.

 

[mike13555]

My first cycle was 250 test cyp/wk and 200 deca/wk and i gained 23lbs and only lost 2 post cycle, i say go for an easy get ur feet wet kind of cycle and train and eat till ur balls fall off.

it worked for me 21 lbs off 450mgs/wk of as for only 8 weeks, if everything else is in line u can gain great w/out much AS!!!!!

Try creatine with ur clomid therapy, worked great for me!!1

happy growing bro!!!!!!