1gram first cycle

[triggernigha]

guys, my buddy told me he is starting his first cycle mon, 1000mg test propionate weekly for 12 weeks, if need be run arimidex 0.5mg eod and h c g 100iu eod throughout entire cycle

im not sure he knows what hes doing.........

opinions? i would like to know he will survive this, i dont know enough tho

is he a fool?

 

[hyp1]

I would say thats way fucking too much for a first cycle,as a matter of fact it's overkill

he could get great results with one third to half of that amount if he trains right,eats right and gets enough rest.

 

[todoveritas]

If he's a teenager he will probably send his nads into an oblivion that will take months and months to recover from.

 

[triggernigha]

If he's a teenager he will probably send his nads into an oblivion that will take months and months to recover from.

no, he is in his 20's

but yeah, it must cause extreme suppression - he reckons the h c g will keep his nads up and stop this, makin p c t easier, which btw he said would just be arimidex continued

 

[todoveritas]

Dude, be a friend and tell him it is way too much. Virgin receptors are going to respond like mad to exogenous testosterone. If he is in his 20's he already has a load in his bloodstream and is stimulating adrenergic receptors very efficiently naturally. At 500 mg he would probably achieve 80% effectiveness at stimulating his AR receptors. Bumping this to 750 mg would probably only achieve 85% effectiveness. Bumping this further to a gram would probably only achieve 87% effectivenss. (I am guestimating bc I know nothing about his stats).

So basically you are achieving only a 7% increase from a doubling of the dose. He will see great results this first cycle and then have shit cycles later on bc his SHBG will be so damn high.

 

[thecomeback]

guys, my buddy told me he is starting his first cycle mon, 1000mg test propionate weekly for 12 weeks, if need be run arimidex 0.5mg eod and h c g 100iu eod throughout entire cycle

im not sure he knows what hes doing.........

opinions? i would like to know he will survive this, i dont know enough tho

is he a fool?

Im looking to run a gram week of test e for my first cycle. I was dead set on the 500mgs a week for the last 3 years but recently changed to this.

 

[razrshrp]

guys, my buddy told me he is starting his first cycle mon, 1000mg test propionate weekly for 12 weeks, if need be run arimidex 0.5mg eod and h c g 100iu eod throughout entire cycle

im not sure he knows what hes doing.........

opinions? i would like to know he will survive this, i dont know enough tho

is he a fool?

bro,,,WAY TOO MUCH---400-500mg ew for 10 maybe 12 (cyp or en) would be fine 4 1st timers

 

[todoveritas]

The gym is full of 30 year olds who brag about how big they were in their 20's but can't figure out how come they never can get there again. Your friend is about to join their ranks.

Maybe, just maybe, if you have trained for 5 years and have reached your natural genetic potential I could see the logic. Yes, it is true. Your first cycle is the most intense. But that's the way it always is. One never again achieves the "high" they got from that first line of cocaine but look what kind of trouble that can lead to. Two steps forward and one step back is the way to go.

 

[timtim]

some extremely clueless people out there.

 

[flotown]

The gym is full of 30 year olds who brag about how big they were in their 20's but can't figure out how come they never can get there again. Your friend is about to join their ranks.

Maybe, just maybe, if you have trained for 5 years and have reached your natural genetic potential I could see the logic. Yes, it is true. Your first cycle is the most intense. But that's the way it always is. One never again achieves the "high" they got from that first line of cocaine but look what kind of trouble that can lead to. Two steps forward and one step back is the way to go.

I've got to disagree with never being able to achieve the same results of first cycle I'm in my 7th now and am gaining more then I ever have. But all the other advice is good. A guy at my old gym did way to much on first 2 cycles and now makes very small gains and is doing 4grams of gear a week!! Don't be him. This cycle is the first time i'm taking a gram of test a week.

 

[lartinos]

All this talk of blowing receptors in my mind is much ado about nothing........just my take. The real reason it is foolish to do this cycle in my opinion is that you are totally unaware of how your body will react to such a high dose. You might just give yourself gyno for all you know. Everyone reacts differently on everything we take man, some guys for example get very little in terms of gains between 5oomg's and 1000 mg's.

 

[DJ_UFO]

just tell your buddy he doesn't have clue about what he's doin.

 

[ukkared]

1 gram a week is way too much for a first cycle, hell he probably only needs 250 mgs a week.

 

[Mrpumped]

Just tell him to switch from prop to enanthate to go from ed injections to twice per week injections. 1 gram of Test and an AI(Aromasin or AIFM) 50mg of Proviron ed throughout and he'll be gaining some good size and strength, provided his diet and training are in check.

 

[c gheller]

Ive been cycling for 10 years and decided to try a gram of Test E last year. Not something i would do again. Sides versus gains were simply not worth it. You buddy doesnt know how his body will react to any amount of test let alone 1 gram. Wish him luck.

 

[off_safety]

when he realizes he's gonna have to shoot 1-2 cc's of pr.op every fucking day, he's gonna be over this cycle real quick.

 

[BIGBUCK$]

guys, my buddy told me he is starting his first cycle mon, 1000mg test propionate weekly for 12 weeks, if need be run arimidex 0.5mg eod and h c g 100iu eod throughout entire cycle

im not sure he knows what hes doing.........

opinions? i would like to know he will survive this, i dont know enough tho

is he a fool?

sure your friend isnt you?

 

[todoveritas]

when he realizes he's gonna have to shoot 1-2 cc's of pr.op every fucking day, he's gonna be over this cycle real quick.

LMAO....Hadn't even thought of THAT-Should give "Buns Of Steel" new meaning....

 

[rambleon]

way way too much. I agree with the guys. 500 mgs of cyp or en would be the way to go. Why the hell is he going for prop anyway? The guys gonna be a pincushion. The last 500 mg will only add to the sides and not really contribute to the main effect in any meaningful way.

 

[triggernigha]

sure your friend isnt you?

lol, i was waiting for that, yeah im sure, i dont plan on doing a cycle for at least one more year - my natural gains are too good to fuck with i think.

thanks to all for your advice, it will be passed on, i think he has just listened to too many people who dont really care what happens to him - he prob will not listen, but hey, you can only try.

he said he wanted to use the test prop since it was faster than enanthate or cyp so if sides did occur, he could lower the dose and it would be outta his system faster.........

 

[mojeas95]

when he realizes he's gonna have to shoot 1-2 cc's of pr.op every fucking day, he's gonna be over this cycle real quick.

I second that... shwew 1000mgs of prop... shit I fear doing 3-400mgs of prop a week... I would probably be a fucking pin coushin doing 1000mgs of prop... he is in for a big big big suprise...

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

guys, my buddy told me he is starting his first cycle mon, 1000mg test propionate weekly for 12 weeks, if need be run arimidex 0.5mg eod and h c g 100iu eod throughout entire cycle

im not sure he knows what hes doing.........

opinions? i would like to know he will survive this, i dont know enough tho

is he a fool?

FOOL...OMG..THAT MAKES HIM OUT OF HIS MIND!!

I have never run 1000mg of Prop a week. Tell him to run some good ol test enth or cyp to start. Like 500mg ew max. Other people have said it and i agree. He will never survive all those shots. And as a first timer his muscles are going to have to get use to being hit with gear and its going to hurt even more! I dont think i could do it. I have been on stage at 238 with 4.5% bf hitting my self with tren and winni all the time but u wont catch me doing 1000mg of prop...F THAT!

I bet he gets through 2 arm shots or leg shots and they are still going to be hurting and the thought of hitting him self again in the same spot will change his mind real quick. Then he can send me the left over prop...lol

 

[OMEGA]

1000?

um NO

 

[blut wump]

It depends where you're at. If you're a scrawny 140lbs six-footer then it's definitely too much. If you're a 300lb natty 5'6" powerhouse with 10 years of hard work under your belt then it might be about right.

 

[drdug27]

i couldnt imagine doing a 1000mg prop not cutting it with anything. especialy his first cycle probably with only glut shots.

 

[enacer420nj]

Are "you" really "your friend" son? heheheh

 

[mobro]

do us all a favor and let us know how long you make it on that and what stops you.....errrr, i mean him.