18 Years old and having to start trt!! HCG vs Test?

[mckaytaylor]

so i am 18 years old have been diagnosed with secondary hypogandism.

When i was younger i had a super high sex drive, more then kids my age, and felt on top of the world then overnight it all stopped.

I got my test levels tested and they were 450 and my total estrogen was 148.

My doc started me on clomid 50mg and arimidex 1.5mg ED. within 3 weeks my test got to 1400, estridol was 30, but total estrogen was 103. but on clomid i had no sex drive

So ive been off clomid for two weeks and my test levels are already down to 600 and estridol 32.

So my doc gave me two options since he doesn't know why this is happening! how i can go from high test to low test like over night.

So i want to have kids in the future so would u suggest hCG only or Test and hCG for trt? what would i feel the best on and still keep me fertile?? thanks so much guys i really appreciate it!

 

[eddymerckx]

Let your doctor run the show. If he/she is not helping find a better one. secondary means there is another cause--thus you need a good doc (s) not us meatheads.

 

[wootoom]

Your doc is an idiot...we dont give advice to 18 year olds either

 

[stevesmi]

nothing wrong with those numbers. in fact i would bet all the GI Joe's you have that just making simple lifestyle changes will solve your issues.

do yourself a favor and just focus on school and stop worrying about your dick. you aren't even old enough to know what libido is.

and wootoom is right your doc is a major moron not knowing that what he is giving you will cause fluctuations in your numbers. just stop taking everything before you screw yourself up permanently!!

 

[mckaytaylor]

so even if my test goes back down to 400? i mean if u think waiting is the best idea i will do it. but i dont wake up with morning erections and have ED. that defiantly shouldn't be happening at my age

 

[stevesmi]

so you think if you don't wake up hard every morning that means you need to go on pills the rest of your life? BULLSHIT.

this is what has happened to our society.. EVERY single little thing must be treated with drugs. you are the latest victim of it. there are even guys under 30 taking cialis these days, drugs meant for old farts at the senior center. but you have young guys taking them now.

 

[rustilldown]

Half of it is probably mental man... Once you think you have ED everytime you meet a girl Instead of knowing you will get her off you are probably stressing about "can I even get it up"... Eat lots of
Red meat , do some heavy lifting like squats and deads, and ya, that's my best advice ... Work on your "pee" holding muscles like squeeze them for reps to help increase blood flow to your pen0r

 

[wootoom]

I agree, its mental. Steve made some good points as well...everything is treated with drugs...i CANT BELIEVE your Doc is even thinking about doing this...how is a 18 year old not horny as hell with wood constantly...HCG? Arimidex? Test? Clomid? Is this a joke? This shit pisses me off and gives BB a bad name...

 

[mckaytaylor]

Half of it is probably mental man... Once you think you have ED everytime you meet a girl Instead of knowing you will get her off you are probably stressing about "can I even get it up"... Eat lots of
Red meat , do some heavy lifting like squats and deads, and ya, that's my best advice ... Work on your "pee" holding muscles like squeeze them for reps to help increase blood flow to your pen0r

well its not so much being worried to not be able to get it up, i mean if i take a cialis it will eventually get there. its just that i just dont have a sex drive anymore. i used to want to bang everything i see and now it takes me a while to even want to have sex if ever. ill try what u said though thanks for the advice. the eating and lifting i do do already. but ya hormonally something has been wrong, my prolactin was 39 before he started me on some caber to bring it down. Its something with my pituitary

 

[wootoom]

I dont have a sex drive anymore.....hmmm YOU ARE 18!!! Are you fucking kidding me? If you even think of taking Cialis at 18 you are a fucking idiot

 

[wootoom]

what do you think your dick will look like at 40 when u take Cialis at 18? A goddamn Ichiban noodle

 

[mckaytaylor]

I dont have a sex drive anymore.....hmmm YOU ARE 18!!! Are you fucking kidding me? If you even think of taking Cialis at 18 you are a fucking idiot

hey bro im not trying to be an ass. Its been going on a year and a half now and now is when i actually went to see a dr. about it. Trust me i dont want to take drugs. The only reason i took cialis is cause i just stayed pretty limp no matter what. If i coud figure out the reason and not have to touch a drug i would, trust me, i just want to feel, like u said, horny as hell like a normal 18 year old should

 

[wootoom]

hey bro im not trying to be an ass. Its been going on a year and a half now and now is when i actually went to see a dr. about it. Trust me i dont want to take drugs. The only reason i took cialis is cause i just stayed pretty limp no matter what. If i coud figure out the reason and not have to touch a drug i would, trust me, i just want to feel, like u said, horny as hell like a normal 18 year old should

I know you are not being an ass im trying to talk some sense into you before you get yourself into trouble....try herbal supps.....drugs is not the way to go at your age

 

[peejae]

Try alternate route first man. There are plenty of over the counter supplements that you can take to raise test levels. Get a few different opinions from different doctors. This doc sounds like a
Quack if you what my honest opinion. There are several factors of why your test levels can be low. Your lifestyle Is a big part of it, and test levels fluctuate throughout the day. It all depends also on what time of the day you have your bloods taken. That doc could honestly screw you up an there might not be anything really wrong with you. Do your research man exhaust all means necessary then come to a conclusion. Just remember you are the one that has to live with your decision.

 

[mckaytaylor]

I know you are not being an ass im trying to talk some sense into you before you get yourself into trouble....try herbal supps.....drugs is not the way to go at your age

im listenin to ya man. what would u suggest? ive tried some of need to supps such as hcGenerate and some other test boosters. If i can find something that will make me have a drive again and just feel normal without a dr. i totally go that route

 

[Potent]

Think maybe you guys are being a bit subjective here? who wouldn't be worried about their dick at age 18? if I was having dick problems at 18 I'd lose my shit. there are people on this board who know there stuff and could offer this kid solid advice.

You should seek more professional medical advice taylor. see a different doctor, one thing is true, you don't need all of those drugs. Get yourself some ZINC.

 

[mckaytaylor]

Think maybe you guys are being a bit subjective here? who wouldn't be worried about their dick at age 18? if I was having dick problems at 18 I'd lose my shit. there are people on this board who know there stuff and could offer this kid solid advice.

You should seek more professional medical advice taylor. see a different doctor, one thing is true, you don't need all of those drugs. Get yourself some ZINC.

ya man thanks for understanding. I actually was getting pretty depressed for a while. I mean what 18 has to worry about that kind of stuff like "im not a man" it really been eating at me. But some zinc, ill get some more ZMA. But i should just find a better dr.? cause we did do alot of scans like a testicular ultrasound and everything is fine with my testies something is giving the pituitary a negative feedback to only tell the testies make 300-400 testosterone.

 

[Potent]

yeah, see multiple doctors. You need fresh prof. perspectives on this, It will be worth it for you.

 

[rustilldown]

High prolactin could Definitely kill your sex drive .. Maybe check yourself for a pituitary tumor... Not as serious as it sounds but this is one of many things that could be a deeper
Cause.