163lb. 23%bf Need Help To Drop Bf, Please

[nnorris710]

My weight is 163lb 23%bf. I'm competing in a Figure show in early July, my first show ever. I do 30 min cardio at 4:30am every other day and 30 min cardio every afternoon. I weight train four days in the afternoon after cardio. I eat clean, eggs whites, lean chicken and tuna 7 days a week, and lean beef one or two times a week.

I have been taking cytomel every morning and afternoon for about 1 month... I thought it was my thyroids so I got it checked and my doctor said no that wasn't it. My thyroid was 76% on a scale from 0.5 to 5.5, I think 76 is still low considering how high the meter goes on the scale for levels high to low, I got the cytomel from a friend sience the doctor would not give it to me to bring my metabolisem up...

Anyhow, I have also been taking one celn in the morning and one afternoon to help speed things up..

1/2 Novodex which is 10ml. in the morning. I read some where, a lady had the same problem and took 20ml. is this safe?

On top of all this I take one amp. of primo a week.

Looking at my hight, 5'8-1/2" 163lb. 23%bf... Can anyone please give me advice, good advice to tweek it up.. Should I do more cardio.. Or be patience. I'm waiting for a shipment to come in for equapoise which I will be taking 1cc two amp. a week with everything else I'v been taking..

I tried winny pills but I broke out on my face. I need to drop bf % by the end of June and get nice and hard too. This is my first show. I can achive my goal with the right infromation. I'm 30 years old and have a son 12-1/2. This has been a exciting journey for the both of us. My muscel gain has been very good and my strenght gains too. I am impressed with chemicals that tweek the body and help mother-nature; she seems to slow progress. I apploud everyone to make changes in thier life and make dreams a reality. Congrats to us all.

My trainer is doing his best, I guess. I can't depend soley on one person and their advice. I need to educate myself and ask experiances athletes as yourselves. Hope to get a responce soon.

God Bless!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Holy Moly. I don't even know where to start.

I'm hitting the gym .... someone help this train wreak PULEEZE! ..... I'll try to sort or the thoughts in my head about this mess .......

 

[Sassy69]

My first comment is going to be that you have quite a challenge ahead of you. I don't knnow what your target bodyfat is at competition time, but you are cutting it *really* close. Unfortunately you cannot force your body to respond in a short period of time without it either resisting the whole way or paying for it later with an incredible rebound.

You gave us the detail of what you eat, but can you be very specific & lay out your day's meal plan? What you eat, how much of each thing and when you eat it? It helps to put it all into a food counts program like www.fitday.com - its a free account and doesn't take too long to set up. Because we dont' know how much you eat (i.e. calories, protein , fat, carbs) we can't really comment on if its too much, too little or anything else. That's the best place to start. Also with that I can't speak to how much cardio you should be doing. What type of cardio are you doing? HIIT? or steady-state? Also how long have you been dieting & training for this? Did you just start 1 month ago (along w/ the t3)? Or longer?

Also I don't know what to say about the t3 & clen - you can't look to the pills to force bodyfat loss if your body isn't already getting a good efficient fueling & burnign from your diet & training. The winny - as you've discovered, it does have some side effects that you either decide to live with or you don't just dont' use the winny.

Let's start w/ the diet & go from there. BTW Welcome to the boards & we're glad you found us!

 

[nnorris710]

Thank you Sassy69 for your insight. I'm new here and found Elite to be very informative. About my diet..

4:15am.
8oz glass water
1/2 cup coffee 2 splendas 2 tsp fat-free vanilla coffeemate
1-clen,1-t3,1-10ml novodex, multi-vitamine,
(2 BBC,5 glutamine with each meal)

4:30am cardio 30min. (8 oz.water)

5:30am (meal 1) 5 egg whites 1 Yolk. 2 cups coffee on the way to work
2 splendas 2 tsp fat-free vanilla coffeemate
7:30am (meal 2) 4 egg whites can tuan, 1/2 grapefruit
8:00am snack 2tsp. peanut butter or hand full asort.nuts
10:00am (meal 3) can of turkey or can chicken or can tuna or
3oz chicken breast
12:00am (meal 4) 4-6oz chicken breast or lean pork, small salad
2:00 pm snack 1/2 grapefruit, 1-2 tsp.peanut butter or hand full nuts
3:30 pm (meal 5) 3-4 egg whites can tuna
4:30pm snack 1/2 grapefruit (optional)

I drink 8-10 (8oz) bottels of water while at the office.
At home diet vanilla coke and sugar free coolaid and just water.. at least 1 gallon water intake a day. but on weekends not as easy, running around the house but need to improve on drinking more at home.

5:00pm-Ride home 1 (8oz) bottle water

5:45pm-Home to change and check on my son.

6:00pm-Then off to the gym.

8:00pm (last meal)
After every work out I go home and eat my last meal which is 4-6 oz chicken breast w/1 slice montereyjack cheese on top melted or 8oz lean redmeat(sirlon) with 1/2 onion and small green bellpepper sauted in with meat with 2-3tsp.extra virgin olive oil, mushrooms, too.

It's been 2 weeks sience I had carbs at night. I'd reather eat more meat and oinions, peppers and mushrooms than veggs and salad.

March & April I drank Muscel Milk once a day (2) scoops with strawberries. I stopped drinking it about the middle of April. Thought that was causing the problem. Not dropping bf fast enough.

Apsolutly no bread and no past and no milk/yogert in my diet. I stopped eating that stuff like 4 months ago, yeah in January. I needed to clean up my diet desparatly. As much as I love that stuff I made up my mind I was not going to eat it. I do have a weakness though, and that's peanut butter. I can sit at my desk and eat about 2-3 tsp. 3-4 times a day.. This is a problem. You think?

Yeap, in my mind, sience I Gave up Snacks, cakes mom would bake, ice cream, rich cajun spice food like crawfish fettachinni, shrimp and crab stew, mexican potato pie, yummy, I figure a little pb wouldn't hurt.. ya think?

I live on chicken breast, eggs, turkey ground meat, lean red meat, green beans, asparagras, mushrooms, tuna, can chicken and can turkey.
Grapefruit, too.

My trainer told me about a month ago I could have a cheet day on the weekends. So, the last two weekends I had pasta on one saterday and last weekend I ate thin crust pizza from Domino's. Although, I did eat my usually protein in take. I try to keep my routine on schedule, even on the weekends. I very rearly ever eat out. Now, I do love to drink Merloit on the weekends or even with some of my evening meals. But I'm scared too, cause of the sugar in it. When I start drinking wine I don't stop till the last drop. Big smiles all night!!

I'm a singel mom. I'm settled in my life which is not crazy anymore. So there for, its easy to be discipline. My son has even adapted quite well to moms eating habits. Now it's his habit, eating clean. Good practice for him. He keeps mom on her toes.

I take 25ml.cytomel twice a day.One in the morning at 6:00AM and an extra 25ml.cytomel at 6:00pm. So, that's 50ml. a day.
I think I need to go up to 75ml. which I am going to start to day. What you
think?

Clen twice a day one before morning cardio and one 5:00pm for afternoon workout/ 30 min cardio every evening. No cardio in the evenings on legg days. I get it in that morning for 30min.

As for...

Primo- for 6 weeks I have taken 1cc a week.

Primo- I have 4 cc left. Wating for EQ. to come in next week.

My trainer suggested me to skip this Friday, not take any juice and continue on May 13, along with primo and Eq. to stack it.

I have only 4 amps of primo left. but I will have 50cc EQ. I know I have enough eq but is that enough alone. should I get something to stack it. You see, it's getting quite pricy I'm sure you can relate.

Like I said, I need to drop at least 11-12%bf in 9 weeks. I'm now 22-23%bf now. My body type is a figure 8. I carry my weight well in all the right places. I just need help with the combination of all this stuff I'm taking. Should I do more cardio, eat less, eat what? Or maybe I'm doing it right and need to be patience... Thanks for listening. I appreciate anything you have to say that might help me or direct in the right direction.

I have a concern about t3. I don't want to screw my thyriods up. What you think about me bumping it up to 75ml.a day? I'm far from being a sensitive person I'm more of a aggressor if that helps. I never ever had health problems. Oh, I was about to leave this out... Depo shot. I was on that for 2 or 3 years. I think thats a fat shot.. estrogen is hat I think is a BIG problem I have. So, that might help your investigation on my report. Estrogen and Depo-Vera birth control shot, yeah thats it. Sure you heard of it. Could this explane the slow weight loss? I think thats all for now. I am leaven work and will check in, in the morning. Hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you soooooooooo much~!!!!

Victoriousnikki-

 

[Ulter]

What show is it that you're doing?

 

[nnorris710]

I'm not really sure which one I'll be ready for, New Orleans?, Homa?, Shrevport?,Mississippi?,Texas? dono? We will see my progress and go from there.. Why do you ask?

 

[nnorris710]

How do I change my user name? I can't find it any where in my profile. Help!

 

[Daisy_Girl]

You can't. You have to 1) go Platinum, or 2) make a whole new online user name.

Your drug use has me really concerned. That is a SHITLOAD of AAS and supplements. I am confused on WHY you think it is a good idea to take so much AAS? Isn't this your first show? Have you done all these compounds before - alone, before you stack them? Haven't you seen the threads from the ladies here who are gettting AMAZING results, with NO AAS use?

I understand Elite is a forum for free talk of AAS use. But here on the Women's Baord, we try to keep people safe too. We will immediately question the need for AAS use - because it is not something to be taken lightly. It is not that I am trying to bust your balls ..... but seriously, what you are taking is frightening to me. And I am someone who has done SEVERAL cycles of AAS. I have many years of experience with training, AAS, etc - and what you are taking is SCARY to me.

What results have you seen from it so far?

 

[Sassy69]

I agree w/ daisy. At 1 cc of the primo - what are your amps? 100 mg/ml ? Also the EQ will make you hungry as shit so at 10-ish or less weeks out, that isnt' going to help you much in trying to drop bodyfat.

I guess I don't want to say look to the t3 to be the answer with the bodyfat. Primo shouldn't have you gaining any weight, however with it, even with a tight diet you aren't going to see your weight drop because of the muscle support, but your bodyfat should drop.

And I guess its hard to say where to go from here with the snapshot of information you've given. What are the results you've gotten from the AAS so far?

 

[Daisy_Girl]

I weight train four days in the afternoon after cardio.

You should weight training first, then do cardio.

I have been taking cytomel every morning and afternoon for about 1 month... I thought it was my thyroids so I got it checked and my doctor said no that wasn't it. My thyroid was 76% on a scale from 0.5 to 5.5, I think 76 is still low considering how high the meter goes on the scale for levels high to low, I got the cytomel from a friend sience the doctor would not give it to me to bring my metabolisem up... .

First, those numbers aren't making sense. What is 76%?. What was your TSH level? 7.6? If that was the case, then your doctor MAY prescribe you SYNTHROID (T4), not T3. So you are even taking the WRONG thing.

Also, at 7.6, thyroid meds won't give you a boost in metabolism. With numbers like that, you are not likely seeing ANY symptoms of low thyroid. I am diagnosed and medicated - no difference that *I* can tell. Self-medication for an undiagnosed problem - not a good idea.

Anyhow, I have also been taking one celn in the morning and one afternoon to help speed things up.. .

How are you running the Clen? How long, when taking a break, what additional supps with it? You DO know that you need Taurine with it? Without it, you are possibly wreaking havoc on your thyoid anyway ....

1/2 Novodex which is 10ml. in the morning. I read some where, a lady had the same problem and took 20ml. is this safe?.

No. More drugs is SO not the answer here.

 

[nnorris710]

I got real good strength gains and muscel gains. for exampel,on legg presses i can press 540lb X 12reps...i gained 8lb muscel in 2 months. I understand your concerns and thank you. so, you don't think i can loose 12%bf in 9wks?

 

[nnorris710]

clen 2- two days on, off one day, then repeat.
you may be right about the cytomel... what would you suggest in replacement to speed up my metabolism?

 

[nnorris710]

T4 is a weaker med. than T3. right! my thyroid is 76 not 76% on the scale from 0.5 to 5.5, which makes me normal but i wasn it to be higher.

 

[habitualhealth]

I got real good strength gains and muscel gains. for exampel,on legg presses i can press 540lb X 12reps...i gained 8lb muscel in 2 months. I understand your concerns and thank you. so, you don't think i can loose 12%bf in 9wks?

I typically lurk over the threads regarding aas merely because it's something i really know nothing about. (other than what i'm currently learning from all of these ladies....who are BRILLIANT...heed to their word )

Um, just a FYI...as Daisy girl mentioned in one of her first posts....there are many of us on here taking the ol "el natural" way of getting results. Personally, I've lost 31lbs and 12% BF since Jan 27, 05 sticking solely to diet and training (and serious ass kicking ) that these ladies (and shadow) have helped script out for me. If you are not sure which competition or where you are participating in, is it safe to say that the sense of urgency doesn't have to be so great for reaching your goals? (now, of course, i know we all want to look hot NOW but) Just curious if you have to run the risk of hurting your bod with all the "drugs"? Like I said, i dont know much about aas but those who do seem rather concerned.

Even tho we don't know ya...we still care.

Good luck.

 

[*Bunny*]

I typically lurk over the threads regarding aas merely because it's something i really know nothing about. (other than what i'm currently learning from all of these ladies....who are BRILLIANT...heed to their word )

Um, just a FYI...as Daisy girl mentioned in one of her first posts....there are many of us on here taking the ol "el natural" way of getting results. Personally, I've lost 31lbs and 12% BF since Jan 27, 05 sticking solely to diet and training (and serious ass kicking ) that these ladies (and shadow) have helped script out for me. If you are not sure which competition or where you are participating in, is it safe to say that the sense of urgency doesn't have to be so great for reaching your goals? (now, of course, i know we all want to look hot NOW but) Just curious if you have to run the risk of hurting your bod with all the "drugs"? Like I said, i dont know much about aas but those who do seem rather concerned.

Even tho we don't know ya...we still care.

Good luck.

^^^ for emphasis as I can say the same thing basically

 

[habitualhealth]

^^^ for emphasis as I can say the same thing basically

cuz we rock

 

[Daisy_Girl]

T4 is a weaker med. than T3. right! my thyroid is 76 not 76% on the scale from 0.5 to 5.5, which makes me normal but i wasn it to be higher.

Okay, is your TSH 76 OR 7.6 ? There is a HUGE difference.

At 76, you will definately notice metabolism problems. At 7.6, you won't.

Also, taking Clen 2 days on, 1 day off is pointless. Your recpetors have adapted to it. Clen needs more than 24 hours to clear the system. So on your cycle, you are not letting it clear, therefore you have adapted to it. Clen needs to be on a 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off cycle.

Again, are you supplementing Taurine with Clen?

 

[musclegirl28]

nikki, just to let you know... and although I wholly promote natural athletes... I can only tell you what I know about clen for metabolism... my trainer told me (I am an on-stage 112pound bodybuilder) to use 6cc's of it per day... that's 2cc in the am, 2cc in the afternoon, and 2cc early evening. mind you, what works for some, won't work for others. And depending on your tolerance to the stuff, you would have to work your way up to that amount. My cardio is 30 mins for 5 mornings in a week, and 30 minutes for 5 afternoons in a week (this is at 8 weeks out)

 

[Sassy69]

I guess you are talking about liquid clen?? Or pills??

n - as far as "do you think I can lose 12% bf in 9 weeks" -- dunno. But you can't force it. And its gonna be more diet & training than pills. In my opinion it is going to be a challenge - and as I said before - I don't know if you've already been able to establish a pattern of losing bodyfat consistently and you just happened to have found Elite when you are at your current bodyfat. If you haven't got your established diet so you are losing at a steady pace already, you will need to get that going.

All I can suggest is that you don't look to the drugs to make your progress but continue w/ your diet & training and see how you progress. Competition prep is all about diet/training, watch your progress, tweak, readjust, continue, repeat until show time. It is very hard to predict how it will come out unless you have several competitions under your belt, following the same protocol with fine tuning over time. And with all competition planning, I would just suggest that you look at some other dates as back-up in case you make progress but aren't able to hit this date.

Clen -- suggested cycle is 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, increasing your daily dosage based on your tolerance, taking taurine w/ it for the 2 weeks, then letting your receptors clear for the off 2 weeks. You can cycle in an OTC thermo or something during the "off" 2 weeks because they use different receptors.

 

[Sassy69]

I guess you are talking about liquid clen?? Or pills??

n - as far as "do you think I can lose 12% bf in 9 weeks" -- dunno. But you can't force it. And its gonna be more diet & training than pills. In my opinion it is going to be a challenge - and as I said before - I don't know if you've already been able to establish a pattern of losing bodyfat consistently and you just happened to have found Elite when you are at your current bodyfat. If you haven't got your established diet so you are losing at a steady pace already, you will need to get that going.

All I can suggest is that you don't look to the drugs to make your progress but continue w/ your diet & training and see how you progress. Competition prep is all about diet/training, watch your progress, tweak, readjust, continue, repeat until show time. It is very hard to predict how it will come out unless you have several competitions under your belt, following the same protocol with fine tuning over time. And with all competition planning, I would just suggest that you look at some other dates as back-up in case you make progress but aren't able to hit this date.

Clen -- suggested cycle is 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off, increasing your daily dosage based on your tolerance, taking taurine w/ it for the 2 weeks, then letting your receptors clear for the off 2 weeks. You can cycle in an OTC thermo or something during the "off" 2 weeks because they use different receptors.

 

[musclegirl28]

Liquid, that is!! Sass!! How you doing? I hope you're doing well and all geared up for the show!! Can I ask you something? Whats the purpose of the taurine?

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Clen depletes Taurine in the body.
Taurine is responsible for the conversion of T4 to T3 in the body. If you to not supplement Taurine, you will likely cause some rebound issues during and when you come off. There will probably be some rebound fat gain until your body stabilizes. Plus, if you inhibit the T4-T3 conversion, you will likely lower your metabolism while taking Clen.

I think it can go without saygint aht you should NOT get thyroid bloodwork done while ON CLen or shortly thereafter. Your thyroid levels will be slightly "off" due to the drug. I would wait at least a month after stopping before you get bloodwork done.

 

[nnorris710]

Thanks Habitualhealth for your weight loss history it gives me hope. I am working very hard day in and day out. I know it's sound scary about the aas.
I never had a problem loosing weight before. Although I never explerimented with aas till now. I like the gains although bf% is just coming down slow. Just don't know what could it be? It has me worried some because no matter what I want to be 12% by July. No matter what.

I want to thank Daisy for all your knowlege and concerns about t3. I'm sure I'm not taking it right. I didn't cycle it like you said 2 wks on 2 wks off. I take 2 clen pills for 2 days then one day off, then repeat. I will stop taking for now and start in 2wks. How bout that?

 

[Sassy69]

With AAS you have to keep in mind that all AAS are not fat burners, so just cycling won't necessarily help you lose bodyfat. Esp something like EQ - it makes you hungry. And also the clen will help a bit, but don't look to it to be the miracle drug to help you lose bodyfat. Its still all diet & training to manipulate your bodyfat loss and most of the drugs available only show real results when you are at lower bodyfat.

As far as "never had a problem losing weight before" -- you've had a child, you are older and, yep the AAS add in additional factors. Please keep focused on acheiving your goals in a healthy way --- if you can't hit your goal of 12% bf by july, don't force it with drugs. Your body will not like you for it.

 

[The Shadow]

Just to add....Taurine will keep you from screaming in the middle of the night with the worst cramps imaginable

 

[nnorris710]

If any one reads this you may find this intresting... I was actually 24%bf not 23%.....

I checked my BF% today and it's now 20%BF...

I'm very happy with my progress.

I dropped 4%BF in two weeks.. not bad!

Cardio in the morning must be paying off along with the t3.
I think some people like myself need a little boost ya know.

I can't wait for two more weeks I should be atleast 16-17%...Amen!!!!!!

 

[notajock]

My weight is 163lb 23%bf. I'm competing in a Figure show in early July, my first show ever. I do 30 min cardio at 4:30am every other day and 30 min cardio every afternoon. I weight train four days in the afternoon after cardio. I eat clean, eggs whites, lean chicken and tuna 7 days a week, and lean beef one or two times a week.

I have been taking cytomel every morning and afternoon for about 1 month... I thought it was my thyroids so I got it checked and my doctor said no that wasn't it. My thyroid was 76% on a scale from 0.5 to 5.5, I think 76 is still low considering how high the meter goes on the scale for levels high to low, I got the cytomel from a friend sience the doctor would not give it to me to bring my metabolisem up...

Anyhow, I have also been taking one celn in the morning and one afternoon to help speed things up..

1/2 Novodex which is 10ml. in the morning. I read some where, a lady had the same problem and took 20ml. is this safe?

On top of all this I take one amp. of primo a week.

Looking at my hight, 5'8-1/2" 163lb. 23%bf... Can anyone please give me advice, good advice to tweek it up.. Should I do more cardio.. Or be patience. I'm waiting for a shipment to come in for equapoise which I will be taking 1cc two amp. a week with everything else I'v been taking..

I tried winny pills but I broke out on my face. I need to drop bf % by the end of June and get nice and hard too. This is my first show. I can achive my goal with the right infromation. I'm 30 years old and have a son 12-1/2. This has been a exciting journey for the both of us. My muscel gain has been very good and my strenght gains too. I am impressed with chemicals that tweek the body and help mother-nature; she seems to slow progress. I apploud everyone to make changes in thier life and make dreams a reality. Congrats to us all.

My trainer is doing his best, I guess. I can't depend soley on one person and their advice. I need to educate myself and ask experiances athletes as yourselves. Hope to get a responce soon.

God Bless!

What kind of weight training are you doing? Traditional lifts only?

 

[Sassy69]

If any one reads this you may find this intresting... I was actually 24%bf not 23%.....

I checked my BF% today and it's now 20%BF...

I'm very happy with my progress.

I dropped 4%BF in two weeks.. not bad!

Cardio in the morning must be paying off along with the t3.
I think some people like myself need a little boost ya know.

I can't wait for two more weeks I should be atleast 16-17%...Amen!!!!!!

Congrats on the 4% girl! Here's one thing I suggest you do. Track your weight, bodyfat and determine the amount of fat & muscle weight you are holding. (e.g. 20% bf means 20% of whatever you weigh is bodyfat). If you figure women hold around 12 lb of bodyfat around their internal organs, i.e. you HAVE to have that much fat or you are dead. Then for those same days write out how much protein, carb ,fat , total cals u are eating. And watch the changes. Also write down how you look. This is particularly useful if you are carb cycling. YOu can tell how your body reacts to the different combinations. I.e. if I add in more carbs, I lose muscle & gain fat. This helps you see how your body uses what you feed it and you can use that to tweak your diet as you go.

 

[nnorris710]

Thanks Sassy... when I was at 24% I weighed 163lb that was two weeks ago sience then I gained 4lb, now I weigh 167lb my bf is 20% I gained 11lb of muscel and lost 6lb of fat.

I eat about 20-30 grams of carbs a day- mostley in the morning. Protein the rest of the day. I guess my body is doing good at the looks og it. Muscle gain looks good in definition and the contour. I get lots of complemets on my legs on how big they look.. but not like bb though. just sexy and with meat onem.

I need to get a scale to weigh my food. I buy chicken breast in a big frozen bag and they are different sizes so I eye ball 4oz, 5oz, 6oz, and so on..When I'm the hungriest is after my work out around 8:00pm and I eat a pretty big piece of meat mostly chicken breast every night.

Your right I need to calculate my pros and cards and fats. I wish I new my body the best but I can tell it will take trial and error. For breakfast this week I ate 1 pk. Cream of Wheat with splenda thats about +/-30 grams carbs, I think. and 7 egg whits one yolk..

I 'm not sure if I will eat more carbs for a (small-carb up day) don't want to load to much.....this weekend or what. I'm scared to try new things sience what I'm doing is working.

I bumped my cardio to 45 min in the morning and after noon all this week. I was told too much cardio can eat muscel and i dont want that. will see the progress in a week. I'll get my bf checked next Friday to see whats new.

Thank you again Sassy!!!! it's nice of you to take your time and chat. I'm leaven work and will be back Monday. Have a Blessed Day!!

 

[nnorris710]

What kind of weight training are you doing? Traditional lifts only?

Hi Notajock.. Mon&Sat-Leggs- squats on smith machine, leg extentions, dead lift llunges, leg curls for ass

Mon-Leggs gluts
Tues-bies&tries/abs & calves
Wed-chest & sholder/abs & calves
Thurs-cardio-abs & calves
Fri-back&bies/abs & calves
Sat-leggs quads/abs/calves


Whats traditional lifts?

I have a trainer so he's mostly creative with everything in the gym, ya know. I use everything in the gym, all kinds of benchs and bars and dumb bells and machines with weight +/-... To much to list here.

Got some advice;would be appreciative.

 

[iamfirmin]

Why the urgency.. IT TAKES TIME TO LOSE BODY FAT AND MAINTAIN MUSCLE..
I would look at competeing in the Autumn.... As my personal trainer always tells me
U PLAY TO WIN.. so when u r ready to win .. You go on stage..
Then again.. (devils advocate) I am competing this year.. to get experience.. FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN I turn 50.. I will be in MUCH better shape next year..
I wouldnt rely on drugs.. it takes hard work and NUTRITION too look and feel good..

 

[nnorris710]

Why the urgency.. IT TAKES TIME TO LOSE BODY FAT AND MAINTAIN MUSCLE..
I would look at competeing in the Autumn.... As my personal trainer always tells me
U PLAY TO WIN.. so when u r ready to win .. You go on stage..
Then again.. (devils advocate) I am competing this year.. to get experience.. FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN I turn 50.. I will be in MUCH better shape next year..
I wouldnt rely on drugs.. it takes hard work and NUTRITION too look and feel good..

I appreciate your concerns.. Did you even read my work out regimen? I'M NOT DEPENDENT ON DRUGS! I WORK OUT VERY HARD TWICE A DAY!!! 4:30AM AND 6:00PM. I'M THE FIRST ONE IN THE GYM AND ONE OF THE LAST ONES TO LEAVE. SUPPLEMENTS ARE JUST AN ADVANTAGE. LIKE HORMONE REPLACEMENTS WHEN YOU TURN 40 OR 50 YEARS OLD. YOUR BOBY NEEDS SOMETHING ITS LACKING.

FOR MYSELF, I'M LACKING METABOLISIM IN MY BODY. And I'm not like some, bore with the genitics. So, Legal pharmacy DRUGS TO INCREASE IT. And using the supplements help recovery time. Less pain more gain.

Okay, If you want plastice surgery to make your body look different, is that wrong too?. (Thats a geni in a bottel..) What's the rush? If your titts are hanging down to the floor, you would rush and get a Boob job, right!

So, whats the rush. You have to take drugs for recovery, right. Life is a RISK! Anything anyone does is a risk. Breathing air next to someone with toxic germs is a risk. Flying on an air plane to get to my destination FASTER is a RISK.

Don't KNOCK ME for my beliefs. Nice of you to drop in.

I am a WINNER!