15 year old on gear really?

[ALIN]

I know this kid from my gym well hes pretty big got some nice gains for 15 hes prob 180 5,7-5,8 low bodyfat from gessing! I talk to him a couple of times and to find out he told me hes on test and dbol is this really bad for him he told me his pct its pretty good and stuff and his dad running his blood work and watching him should i try to talk him out of it ? Or ? Idk then ill fell like a fucking hyborcit!!! Help!?

Someone gave that young man some bad advice. TOO Y0UNG,,,PERIOD!!!!

 

[BobMarshal]

BLASPHEMY!!! number one his father is criminally responsible, its the same as giving ur kid cocaine , and i cant even believe this post!!! u should call the cops on this kids dad and u should slug him in the face too, thats testament to the fact that u should need a license to have a kid.....

You do realize the kid could be lying.

 

[Essie]

The Kid could be doing it without his Father's consent and is only saying that the Old Man is helping him with his gear to avoid confrontation ... or he could be telling the truth. No way in knowing other than talking to the Dad. I would purely alert him to the dangers of what he is doing and make sure he is fully aware of the consequences. Other than that, not a thing.

 

[curls4girls]

^^ This is exactly why you do NOT run AAS before your natural genetic potential and, he will probably never reach his natural potential now because of just that.

You can't say this to be true. Arnold said in his biography that he started AAS as a young teenager, and looked what he turned out to be. Hell, who knows the kids potential. He could be the next mr. O, you never know.

Is it right? Of course not.
Is is safe? Not at all
If the son is telling the truth, the dad must be a jackass who is trying to live thru his son, and trying to make his son reach his old dreams.

I also started taking steroids as a young teenager and I reached goals inside of the gym and outside of the gym that I couldn't have been able to accomplish naturally. So I can say there are some benefits of juicing early.

I'm not condoning it at all, I'm just saying everyone has a story and a reason.

When I started juicing as a teen, was it the safest and best thing for me? Hell no
If I could redo things, would I do them differently? Absolutely NOT

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ please don't use Arnold to make a point regarding bodybuilding.. Arnold had genetics that are 1 in 100M+.. you could follow exactly what Arnold did to a tee and you would never come close to what he accomplished.

i agree with you that the dad is using his son to live through him, that happens all the time just go to any sporting event and see the nonsense in the stands. boohoo my kid isn't getting playing time, then send them to a small private school where their best player wouldn't even be the 4th stringer at a larger school. instead of pumping them with steroids.. then when they get to college they will learn how much of a waste it was when they don't even dress and are put on the scout team

 

[curls4girls]

^^^ please don't use Arnold to make a point regarding bodybuilding.. Arnold had genetics that are 1 in 100M+.. you could follow exactly what Arnold did to a tee and you would never come close to what he accomplished.

i agree with you that the dad is using his son to live through him, that happens all the time just go to any sporting event and see the nonsense in the stands. boohoo my kid isn't getting playing time, then send them to a small private school where their best player wouldn't even be the 4th stringer at a larger school. instead of pumping them with steroids

I agree 100% with both statements you have made. I have seen it first hand.

But on the topic of Arnold, yes his genetics are AMAZING. The man still has biceps that many bodybuilders dream of having. But, without starting AAS at such an early age, there's no way he could have one mr.O at the age he won it at. Yes, he would have won it EVENTUALLY, just not that young.

There are several NFL & college players who juiced as a teen and reached goals that they couldn't naturally. If you want an example, check out Brian Cushing. Yes these guys are blessed with genetics, but so are a lot of 15 year olds across America. I personally know guys from my highschool who juiced and went D1, and they couldn't have done it without AAS.

Now, at his height of 5'8" or so, his potential is limited just because that's how things are. But if I had to guess the scenario, I would think his dad just wants him to be the biggest SOB out there and be able so say "YEAH, that's MY son" etc etc

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ I coach and judge high school powerlifting and at my school if they use steroids they are off the team period.. they can go out of zone to another high school i guess. of course we don't do steroid testing, but I do have the authority to search lockers and if i find anything that is suspicious whether they are rec drugs or AAS they are gone. the guys know this ahead of time when they join the team and i make it abundantly clear what i expect from them.

i disagree that you need steroids to reach your goals.. i was a PLer back when i was a teen.. and did very well.. won my district and got top 10 in the state. no steroids.. just hard work in the gym.

you need to START lifting young, but you do not need steroids at all.

 

[curls4girls]

^^^ I coach and judge high school powerlifting and at my school if they use steroids they are off the team period.. they can go out of zone to another high school i guess. of course we don't do steroid testing, but I do have the authority to search lockers and if i find anything that is suspicious whether they are rec drugs or AAS they are gone. the guys know this ahead of time when they join the team and i make it abundantly clear what i expect from them.

i disagree that you need steroids to reach your goals.. i was a PLer back when i was a teen.. and did very well.. won my district and got top 10 in the state. no steroids.. just hard work in the gym.

you need to START lifting young, but you do not need steroids at all.

And I agree with you 100%. You do not need steroids to compete. Plenty of people do just as well if not better than some juicers. I agree you don't need it to reach your goals, hardwork and dedication will get you that, not a needle. It can just allow you to reach that next level that you never could reach with genetics and hard work alone.

 

[Maldiny]

If the kid is 15, see if you can find out how he is getting back and forth to the gym. If it a parent there is your window to find out if the kid is telling the truth or not. gotta be prepared to possably get some push back from the parents, but if it opens the door to help this young man out its prob worth it.

 

[stevesmi]

And I agree with you 100%. You do not need steroids to compete. Plenty of people do just as well if not better than some juicers. I agree you don't need it to reach your goals, hardwork and dedication will get you that, not a needle. It can just allow you to reach that next level that you never could reach with genetics and hard work alone.

its all about how you feel personally about it.

I knew about steroids when i was younger.. i remember we were watching Rocky IV in class and the russian boxer was getting steroids injected and a kid was like 'no wonder he is such a great boxer he is on steroids!" I turned to him and told him "steroids didn't make him a great boxer or great athlete, you need to train your ass off and have great skills" I knew that at that age because its common fitness sense.. based on that I did not even think about using steroids, not that i could afford it anyway lol.