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10 Weeks on DC's with 17 pound gain!

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DeanersWeiner

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I'm telling you this dam guy knows what hes talking about. Just about everything I have increased in, size and strength have gone up to the tits. I recommend this program for anyone wanting to make a major change in how they train and for those who just wanna get freakin huge!

I have never felt more solid and thick in the places I lagged the most. Plus my BF has dropped a bit on his diet but I gained 17 pounds which is amazing. I was at 191 and I am now at 208. I tell you get a hold of Dantes DC's workout you cant go wrong!
 
Now I may seem likea critic hear but first you need to state all variable, how long you have been training, how clean was your diet, obvious stats, natural or not. I would like to hear a full acount rather than a hype-type commercial
 
DC's diet is basically eat 400 grams of protien a day then eat whatever else u want cutting off carbs at night. I did this and gained tons of fat, now i eat MUUUCH cleaner
 
There were 4 main guidelines...

1) 2x Bodyweight in protein
2) 4 tbsp EV olive oil daily
3) Trace Carbs only after 6-7 PM
4) Something else I forgot
 
i just read his training guidelines that i found on the web..... he says 7000 cals (Damn!) that just spells bodyfat gain to me
 
well you figure almost 1200 of your calories are coming just from protein, then he says as long as you have your protein down to satisfy your hunger with carbs (trace after 6-7pm). I did gain bodyfat and really had a hard time getting that much food down the hatch. His workoutis basically designed to get you absolutely monstrous (muscle and fat wise). I just couldnt deal with the fat gain anymore
 
Anyone who is getting fat on DC's diet is doing something drastically wrong. Yes, he says to cut off carbs at 6 or 7 pm at night. That's a general guideline. If someone is still getting fatter they should be cutting off carbs at 5, 4, 3pm all the way down until your not getting fat.

DW - nice work gaining 17lbs in 10 weeks. Unless anybody else has gained that much, I don't see the point of criticizing the diet. If any one else has gained that much in the past 10 weeks, why are you reading this post? You obviously already have something that works for you.
 
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no one is criticizing his diet but when someone comes on with a post about dc training sounding like a used car salesman, you dont know what the other factors were. how much fat did he gain? did he follow the diet to the tee? using AAS? How long has he trained? etc
 
I don't necessarily think anyone is criticizing DC's diet, but it's getting dragged through the mud pretty bad here. I don't even train DC style so I don't have any vested interest here, but I know what his training and diet are all about, and from the other posts here, it looks I might be one a few that can make that claim. Of course, that doesn't seem to stop all the others from chiming in with what they "heard somewhere" or "read somewhere".

DW mentions that his bodyfat dropped throughout the diet in the original post, so as for how much bodyfat he gained? I'm thinkin' zero.

And I don't think he sounds like a used car salesman, because of one fundamental difference: a used car salesman is trying to sell you something, Deaner's Weiner (you can't type that name into a serious discussion, it just ruins everything) was just saying what worked for him, and pointing people toward a method that can be found for free.

Don't mean to drop the hammer or anything, but wouldn't you guys if you saw someone at your gym do 23 sets of tricep kickbacks and then tell you they heard this was how you do the 5x5 routine?
 
DeanersWeiner good gains! I have just switched to DC's workout, It's only been a week so I don't feel confident on stating any pro's or con's until I can give it at least a full month.

I do have a question though... Has anyone run this routine on a 3 workout cycle? what I am wondering is if it's ok to maybe just go with something like legs, chest /tri's,back/bi's instead of cramming all into 2 workouts? As long as you maintain the same spacing of days in between each bodypart as he specifies would the results be the same or is there a specific reason he recommends the 2 workout deal?
 
PoopMonkey- I am asking for an overall history, much knowledge can be gain by telling the whole story and examining it. Much like a scientist we should lokk at why it works, and then learn to apply that knowledge. 5x5 and other methods work (so does DC) but understanding why might help trainers and trainees modify their training for the better.

17lbs is a lot of weight and if it packed onto a person with good training experience with little fat gain then we should examine and learn. But I advocate knowing the whole story. IF a beginner comes to me and says I put on 40lbs on my squat this month my method is the best, I would be aprrehensive at best because I know later on down the road adding 40lbs to a 500lb squat is gonna be much harder.

Just give more info
 
I agree, asking for more info isn't being critical, like I said, it's just that the people who are offering up information about the diet are passing out false info.

Trenfan2 - I think changing the workout like you suggested would probably work out better for you. I realize this makes me sound like a hypocrite to advise straying from the parameters, but adding rest days is never a bad idea in my opinion. I personally am getting the best results of my life right now, and I'm working out every 3rd day. (Day 1: Chest/Tri/Shoulder, Day 2: Back/Bi/Abs, Day 3: Quads, Hams, Calfs) But my recovery abilities are pretty crappy, so to each their own.
 
poopmonkey, so if you did your day 1 workout on Monday and your day 2 and 3 workouts and Tuesday and Wednesday, would you pickup again with your day1 on Friday, etc?
 
No, my day one is Monday, then I'm out of the gym until Thursday for my Day 2, then my day 3 would be Sunday. Again, that's just me, people with better recovery abilities would probably want to take advantage of that and get in the gym more often. I used to work out 3X a week but I kept getting sick, month after month after month. It took a long time for me to realize that I was probably overtraining, and since I've bumped my training down to 3 times every 9 days, things have been going well.
 
Lord_Suston said:
PoopMonkey- I am asking for an overall history, much knowledge can be gain by telling the whole story and examining it. Much like a scientist we should lokk at why it works, and then learn to apply that knowledge. 5x5 and other methods work (so does DC) but understanding why might help trainers and trainees modify their training for the better.

17lbs is a lot of weight and if it packed onto a person with good training experience with little fat gain then we should examine and learn. But I advocate knowing the whole story. IF a beginner comes to me and says I put on 40lbs on my squat this month my method is the best, I would be aprrehensive at best because I know later on down the road adding 40lbs to a 500lb squat is gonna be much harder.

Just give more info
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I would like to hear more info too, but 17 lbs in 10 weeks is damn good whether you're a beginner or not.

DC works for the same reason that HST works, it capitalizes on the most important factors for hypertrophy: increased frequency and progressive loading. DC reached this theories through personal experience whereas HST was created based on muscle growth research in the lab. The fact that both of them have been proven to work so well even though they arrived to their conclusions by opposite means show that, IMO, this is the "right way" to train for optimum hypertrophy.
 
I myself did gain a bit of fat on DC's diet, but I've made an adjustment. If you are getting fat then you need to make a change in the macros at your meals.


Debaser said:

The fact that both of them have been proven to work so well even though they arrived to their conclusions by opposite means show that, IMO, this is the "right way" to train for optimum hypertrophy.
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the opinions are still largely devided with regard to HST training.
 
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