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- Thread starter Demon_throne
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Hopefully Demon has stepped down from his throne & is now walking amongst us everyday Angels in the land of the living & is holding himself truly accountable by his own bidding without being ruled by other motivational factors.
Only time will tell.
Anyone is cable of change if they truly want too & then chose to live by it.
Only time will tell.
Anyone is cable of change if they truly want too & then chose to live by it.
Buck Pharmaceuticals
Member
Thanks brothers for tagging me and i wanna say the I love how we all continue to keep each other accountable and strive for the best!
Its unfortunate that we originally sent @Damon_throne 2 vials of primo and after saying he'd do some jano testing! We always look after everyone that would step up to do something off their own back for us and sent another 2 vials of primo
We don't want to see anyone leave the community as we believed people can have a second chance and grow from this!
We have message him and not had a response! our inbox is open and always available to talk
stronger together 
4 Vials of Primo all up?,Thanks brothers for tagging me and i wanna say the I love how we all continue to keep each other accountable and strive for the best!
Its unfortunate that we originally sent @Damon_throne 2 vials of primo and after saying he'd do some jano testing! We always look after everyone that would step up to do something off their own back for us and sent another 2 vials of primo
We don't want to see anyone leave the community as we believed people can have a second chance and grow from this!
We have message him and not had a response! our inbox is open and always available to talk
Looks like he owes you about $930 by your pricelist
Hope he clears this debt to you also.
(Let's be honest, there's a 97% chance he never sent it off to be tested, was probably going to claim it got seized on the way.)
Buck Pharmaceuticals
Member
We don't want to seek any compensation towards us! If he wants to do anything about it we would like to just be tagged and see him putting his efforts back into the community! ✌
People like Demon will never change if they aren't held accountable,
As it stands, he won't be returning to this community,
How about receiving compensation from him,
And then churning that compensation back into the community in the form of a giveaway?
Big wins for the community
Appreciate your response brother.
But the right thing here is for him to keep to his word and reimburse the products he’s stolen.
@abolone
@Allupfromhere
Agreed.
@Buck Pharmaceuticals You by no means have to do this, but getting the money back means you could use it promote yourself with something like a buyers giveback (e.g., for creative touchdown pics, blood draws, independent testing). 4 x primo isn’t peanuts for someone that has already taken advantage of many.
this one is settled bro
buck you a hero
This, absolute gentleman of a response!!
@Buck Pharmaceuticals
I sincerely hope it works out for you @Demon_throne and I hope you took this as a learning curve we all fall we all fail but most importantly we learn from our mistakes and wrong doing, take it as a lesson.
If theres anything the community can do to help you, just reach out
@Allupfromhere
@Grumpy1
@the_alcatraz
@koba
@gar71
Wishing you great success with absolutely everything my guy.
Vendors who have been effected please keep mods up to date with agreement on both ends
its a good result - but why was it done in the first place?
For clarity:
@War Born Peptides - resolved
@Unitedau - resolved
@Buck Pharmaceuticals - resolved
@Southern Cross Labs - resolved
@IronHQ - arrangements made, yet to be resolved
@ApexLabs_ - arrangements to be made once @IronHQ is compensated
@War Born Peptides - resolved
@Unitedau - resolved
@Buck Pharmaceuticals - resolved
@Southern Cross Labs - resolved
@IronHQ - arrangements made, yet to be resolved
@ApexLabs_ - arrangements to be made once @IronHQ is compensated
Gear ghost cos his gains are invisible?
Well done @Trumpy
Infinity Labs
Well-known member
Think the guy got the message boys,pointless to keep bodyshaming someone.No need for it, yes he did the wrong thing.Trumpy took thinks in his hands and things are getting rectified.This action on EF is longer than Home and Away season 50 episode 200.Just my 2c if your opinion differs well shows true caracter.Lets move on and keep doing you the best you can
Agree well said
Well said time to move on.
Agreed
Unlocked
What’s the latest update on this?
Me too.
i hope they’re all compensated for. Crazy part is he tried it with even more vendors too 
His name is semen chair now
Its just.sad to see rightMe too.
In my circle it's just Semon.
But I was being nice with just Demon.
I believe @ApexLabs_ has not been compensated at this stage apex can correct me if im wrong
@Demon_throne maybe those over at Aus-SF need a reminder of your wrong doings....
Unfortunately haven’t heard anything from him.
This cunt body shamed our fattie!!
Pitchforks to the front
MegaZygrade
New member
Yeh, no one will get anything out of him. He still logs here 
Wow.
Despite the amount of gear he stole, @Demon_throne still looks like absolute shit. Don’t think he should be body shaming anyone.
No one on here should be, we are all working on ourselves. However, since he started the discussion I feel it’s fair to call out his average physique.
As the kids would say "mid"
Let's keep the body shaming and comments about how whoever looks at bay guys the thread was reopened to see the process of vendors being made right
We are bigger and better than that we are all at different stages and have different ideas of where we want to end up
Let's just keep this thread going without the insults
We all know and agree that what was done was not right Let's see if we can get the vendors made right and move on with our lives
We are bigger and better than that we are all at different stages and have different ideas of where we want to end up
Let's just keep this thread going without the insults
We all know and agree that what was done was not right Let's see if we can get the vendors made right and move on with our lives
Hi mate, sorry for the late reply.
I’ve had a shit tonne on my plate the last couple of weeks.
Demon has deleted his Telegram account so unless he’s actively engaging you or Ironclad from these forums, which I know he isn’t, I’d say he’s abandoned this idea of payment.
Nobody has been compensated.
The other vendors cut their losses.
@Demon_throne has not made anybody whole, and I’d be curious to know why he deleted his telegram account, and failed to pay @IronHQ
Scum bag move by a scum bag cunt.
Very disappointing.
Things like this tell you a lot about a man.
In my experience, it’s best to consider financial losses like this as the price paid to not deal with someone again.
Take what lessons can be learned and move on.
As of today, he is no longer part of our forums or community chat.
Agreed - particularly disappointing because we gave him credit for "owning" it and "agreeing" to a payment plan ha.
I'll accept the loss to not deal with him again! Ha
Also - appreciate your efforts @Trumpy
Most disappointing part of it all, nobody got a formal apology.
Unfortunate for the vendors effected & the other deserving people that possibly missed out due to this scumbag. But it seems like these vendors all have a great crew of athletes now & a great community/customer base growing alongside that
On the flip side it brought a whole lot of the community together. Hopefully we can all learn a lesson from this and move on
P.S. Fuck SemenThrone
On the flip side it brought a whole lot of the community together. Hopefully we can all learn a lesson from this and move on
P.S. Fuck SemenThrone
Real men know when, and how to apologise. Cowards avoid confrontation and taking accountability for their actions.
Lying through his teeth. Scum bag.
you're a peptide guy ?
Correct.
you should be on probation we got thru list now bro
I am confused, how is that relevant to the concerns I had with Demon?
Proper flog
Dear vendors. This seems like a pretty fitting thread to post this.
Was going to sit on this and deal with it in-house however would like to protect other vendors as I know first hand what goes into being a vendor in these spaces and to have people openly poach is not on.
This is also to make aware to the community so they can make decisions on which vendors they choose to do business with.
Please see below.
Was made aware on my ugl talk vendor thread this morning of a certain EF vendor going through my Telegram group members and trying to steal business. I have redacted the vendors name from the evidence but if anyone wants to see the proof just hit me up on threema.
I have confirmed that this EF vendor was a member of my Telegram group (kicked him now) aswell I also have screenshots to confirm the messages were sent from his telegram to the members. Have had multiple community members reach out to me about this.
Other vendors please be aware of this vendor trying to poach your customers and ride the coat tails of your hard work.
Been at this game hard for fkn months 24/7 sleepless nights, countless sacrifices and grinding my arse off to have someone try steal from me. I'm not with it.
Screenshots of someone making me aware on ugl then also some screenshots of the messages as well as confirmation it is from this vendors telegram account.
Was going to sit on this and deal with it in-house however would like to protect other vendors as I know first hand what goes into being a vendor in these spaces and to have people openly poach is not on.
This is also to make aware to the community so they can make decisions on which vendors they choose to do business with.
Please see below.
Was made aware on my ugl talk vendor thread this morning of a certain EF vendor going through my Telegram group members and trying to steal business. I have redacted the vendors name from the evidence but if anyone wants to see the proof just hit me up on threema.
I have confirmed that this EF vendor was a member of my Telegram group (kicked him now) aswell I also have screenshots to confirm the messages were sent from his telegram to the members. Have had multiple community members reach out to me about this.
Other vendors please be aware of this vendor trying to poach your customers and ride the coat tails of your hard work.
Been at this game hard for fkn months 24/7 sleepless nights, countless sacrifices and grinding my arse off to have someone try steal from me. I'm not with it.
Screenshots of someone making me aware on ugl then also some screenshots of the messages as well as confirmation it is from this vendors telegram account.
@ApexLabs_ grub
Real shitty behaviour. Should be no place for poaching on these boards. To the vendor in question, step up your game and maybe apologise….
I would like to sincerely apologise to anyone who felt that my actions were inappropriate or came across as a low blow. That was never my intention.
With the amount of counterfeit Primobolan and Masteron currently circulating, my intention was simply to reach out to individuals who were actively looking for legitimate products and offer them a genuine alternative.
I have nothing against War Born Peptide as a company. I also noticed that they currently do not have Primobolan in stock, which is the only reason I contacted people who were specifically looking for it.
When it comes to other compounds such as Testosterone, Deca or EQ. I do not reach out to potential customers because I have no intention of taking business away from War Born Peptide or interfering with their client base.
Again, I apologise if my actions were misunderstood or caused any offence. That was never my objective.
With the amount of counterfeit Primobolan and Masteron currently circulating, my intention was simply to reach out to individuals who were actively looking for legitimate products and offer them a genuine alternative.
I have nothing against War Born Peptide as a company. I also noticed that they currently do not have Primobolan in stock, which is the only reason I contacted people who were specifically looking for it.
When it comes to other compounds such as Testosterone, Deca or EQ. I do not reach out to potential customers because I have no intention of taking business away from War Born Peptide or interfering with their client base.
Again, I apologise if my actions were misunderstood or caused any offence. That was never my objective.
My telegram group is a read only group.
No one talks in there except for me. There is no way you knew if anyone was actively seeking primobolan as you are saying. The community members cannot reply. They just read my updates about my business.
To say you were specifically speaking to people only seeking primobolan is a blatant lie.
The people who you messaged me reporting this had no idea who you are. They had never expressed in any open forum about wanting primobolan.
It takes a man to apologise but it takes a different kind of man to openly lie whilst he is apologising.
They thought you were a scammer...
Even if that was the case that doesnt give you the right to steal his customers ...
So when warborn runs out of deca or test will you be messaging his customers that you have deca and test in stock? like what logic is this man
I understand your point and I appreciate you raising it.
You’re right that your Telegram group is read only, so I couldn’t have known whether anyone was actively looking for Primobolan through discussions in the group. The decision I made was purely on the the fact that no test report was issued on your group for Primobolan so I assumed you don’t have in stock.
I also understand why some members may have thought I was a scammer. Receiving an unsolicited message from someone they don’t know can understandably raise concerns. That wasn’t my intention and I apologise for any confusion or distrust my messages may have caused.
"With the amount of counterfeit Primobolan and Masteron currently circulating, my intention was simply to reach out to individuals who were actively looking for legitimate products and offer them a genuine alternative."
2 mins later
"You’re right that your Telegram group is read only, so I couldn’t have known whether anyone was actively looking for Primobolan through discussions in the group. The decision I made was purely on the the fact that no test report was issued on your group for Primobolan so I assumed you don’t have in stock."
2 mins later
"You’re right that your Telegram group is read only, so I couldn’t have known whether anyone was actively looking for Primobolan through discussions in the group. The decision I made was purely on the the fact that no test report was issued on your group for Primobolan so I assumed you don’t have in stock."
Mate, I’m not sure what your issue is but this matter is between War Born and me and I’m confident we can resolve it directly.
I’ve already explained my reasoning and intentions as clearly as I can. It feels like anything further I say is being interpreted in the most negative way possible which isn’t productive.
If War Born would like any further clarification, I’m more than happy to speak with him privately and address any concerns directly.
I'll stay out of this but at the end of the day I hope you and warborn can resolve this. Im just looking out for the community mate
I also understand firsthand how it feels to be scammed because I experienced it myself on EF. One of the admins here @DemonThrone took approximately $700 worth of gear and disappeared. It’s now been two months, and I’m still waiting for the compensation that was promised.
Despite that, I never created unnecessary conflict or messaged other members about it. An apology was given and I chose to accept it and move forward.
I’m not sharing this to point fingers but simply to explain that I understand both sides of the situation. We all make mistakes and none of us are perfect. I hope everyone can understand where I’m coming from and allow this matter to be resolved respectfully.
Despite that, I never created unnecessary conflict or messaged other members about it. An apology was given and I chose to accept it and move forward.
I’m not sharing this to point fingers but simply to explain that I understand both sides of the situation. We all make mistakes and none of us are perfect. I hope everyone can understand where I’m coming from and allow this matter to be resolved respectfully.
Pl
you understand how bad it was that you got scammed so you decided to try steal customers. Yeah what great morals you have idiot
Oh I got scammed and understand how bad it is. Let me join warborns channel and message them I’m sure they will love my 80mg primo!
It is what it is.
We are all competing here but let's just try do it with some level of honour and integrity.
The forum will fall into shit otherwise. I brought this forward to protect vendors and the community from bad actors.
Apex please let the quality of your products, good service, delivery speed and community outreach be what gets you ahead as a vendor.
Don't use underhanded dirty tactics such as poaching customers from other vendors.
We live and we learn. I hope you can grow from this.
We are all competing here but let's just try do it with some level of honour and integrity.
The forum will fall into shit otherwise. I brought this forward to protect vendors and the community from bad actors.
Apex please let the quality of your products, good service, delivery speed and community outreach be what gets you ahead as a vendor.
Don't use underhanded dirty tactics such as poaching customers from other vendors.
We live and we learn. I hope you can grow from this.
Of course I have morals that’s exactly why I’ve stood up, taken responsibility and explained my actions.
For what feels like the hundredth time, this matter is between War Born and me and we’re more than capable of discussing it directly and resolving it.
I’m assuming you are also here looking after the community right?
I understand where you’re coming from and I respect your intention to protect both the community and the vendors.
I accept that my approach wasn’t the right one and that it created the wrong impression. That’s on me and I’ve apologised for it.
Going forward, I’ll continue to let the quality of my products, my service and my reputation speak for themselves. I appreciate the feedback and I hope we can all move on from this and keep the focus on building a strong and respectful community.
**Signing off**
Just because you apologised doesn’t make it okay. You’ve contradicted yourself with your reasonings. Now you’re playing the victim card.
You say it created the wrong impression. But you clearly stated your impression was to reach out to people in his group looking for primo. Then 2 mins later you said there’s no way you could have known if they were looking for it or not.
You’re a slimy cunt.
Leave semen chairs name out yo mouf cunt, poaching scumbag
Out with the cactus!!! You’re slipping bro… I beat you to it.
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