Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!!!!!

[needtogetaas]

I have not had a lot of time to look into Osta sarms as I have been busy as hell lately but rest assured like everything needto is on the case and I will set some time aside to study the hell out of this subject. As of right now though I need to put out to the public that fact that Osta sarsm is and does cause gyno and I could give a crap less what literature would state otherwise at this moment in time.

LIke I said I have not studied Osta sarms specifically but many of the Articles you see flouting around the net on Sarms-s4 where more then likely written by me or ghost written by me for another company. SO I know what the hell sarms are lolol.. And every other chemical out there too. But we have seen a lot of new drugs/chemicals/peptides popping up some different versions of older drugs and some all new. I am doing all I can to stay on top of things.


As of today I have gotten hundred of "real user" reports of people getting gyno flare ups well on Osta sarms. Now this leads me to beleive that ether osta sarms does cause some kind of androgen receptor cross over to the ER or PR. Or that there is a company out there selling some kind of oral steroid as Osta sarms. I am leaning more towards the former then the later though because some of these reports of come from people who have been using osta sarms that comes from companies I know and love like sarmsearch.com who IMO is the leader in any kind of sarms. These guys rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! great service , great price, and the best products of all.

But I am sure will see one of the reps trying to refute my statment and I dont blame them but its not my fault that this is the feed back I am getting. Its just the simple truth and I figured I would put it out there because I do not want people thinking that this is perfectly safe and will cause no problems.

I would people to be well informed and if you ask me people need to have a serm to run with there osta sarms. The only thing that can block gyno that is caused by androgen receptor cross over is a serm. Because Ai's lower estrgoen and dos/cabsiar lowers progesterone but that is not what is causing the gyno. You need to completely block the ER and the only thing that can do this is a serm.

Sorry nelson but this one time I am going to have to say nolva and clomid are the only things that can work good enough to prevent androgen receptor crossover gyno... I do not know of a natural serm that is pwoerful enough. Maybe mega dosed Transdermal reservtrol and or white button mushroom extracts... Maybe!! but that would remain to be seen.

 

[stantonz71]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Thanks for throwing it out there. I had a pebble show up 6 weeks into a 8 week run.

Hey Needto....After you suggested to run formastanzol 5 and 5 for my lump...Its been 4 weeks now and its almost completely gone.

 

[rappert]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

this is the problem with taking something we know so little about...ughh

 

[C0LUMB0]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Thanks for getting on top of this need2.

 

[aj13]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Wow im freakin out a bit now!!

ok iv jsut finished a bottle of osta -sarms - should I run a serms now for a mini pct????

letro?

I havnt got any side effects yet? no itchy or sore nipples -what should I look out for?

when you say it can and DOES - does this mean only in certain cases? I.e. I might not get it?

please elaborate!

 

[rappert]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

i think gyno is always "only in certain cases." Not everyone will react the same..

 

[aj13]

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ok well iv finished the bottle yesterday - would I notice by now if i was developing any minor gyno?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

I have not had a lot of time to look into Osta sarms as I have been busy as hell lately but rest assured like everything needto is on the case and I will set some time aside to study the hell out of this subject. As of right now though I need to put out to the public that fact that Osta sarsm is and does cause gyno and I could give a crap less what literature would state otherwise at this moment in time.

LIke I said I have not studied Osta sarms specifically but many of the Articles you see flouting around the net on Sarms-s4 where more then likely written by me or ghost written by me for another company. SO I know what the hell sarms are lolol.. And every other chemical out there too. But we have seen a lot of new drugs/chemicals/peptides popping up some different versions of older drugs and some all new. I am doing all I can to stay on top of things.


As of today I have gotten hundred of "real user" reports of people getting gyno flare ups well on Osta sarms. Now this leads me to beleive that ether osta sarms does cause some kind of androgen receptor cross over to the ER or PR. Or that there is a company out there selling some kind of oral steroid as Osta sarms. I am leaning more towards the former then the later though because some of these reports of come from people who have been using osta sarms that comes from companies I know and love like sarmsearch.com who IMO is the leader in any kind of sarms. These guys rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! great service , great price, and the best products of all.

But I am sure will see one of the reps trying to refute my statment and I dont blame them but its not my fault that this is the feed back I am getting. Its just the simple truth and I figured I would put it out there because I do not want people thinking that this is perfectly safe and will cause no problems.

I would people to be well informed and if you ask me people need to have a serm to run with there osta sarms. The only thing that can block gyno that is caused by androgen receptor cross over is a serm. Because Ai's lower estrgoen and dos/cabsiar lowers progesterone but that is not what is causing the gyno. You need to completely block the ER and the only thing that can do this is a serm.

Sorry nelson but this one time I am going to have to say nolva and clomid are the only things that can work good enough to prevent androgen receptor crossover gyno... I do not know of a natural serm that is pwoerful enough. Maybe mega dosed Transdermal reservtrol and or white button mushroom extracts... Maybe!! but that would remain to be seen.

Bro, NO DISAGREEMENT WHAT-SO-EVER!!!

I never said nolva wasn't good for gyno and have recommended it for such. I just said that it sucks for PCT. And it kills your dick. And people are using it when using non armomatizing compounds! THAT, is nuts.

 

[rappert]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

any reports of s4 causing gyno?

 

[firetruck]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

any reports of s4 causing gyno?

^^^^^^^^ same question.
Also would 10mg/d of tamoxifen be enough?

 

[C.K.]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

I'm glad I didn't jump on that band wagon...

 

[veneto82]

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well im about to run 8 weeks at 25mg/day and will let you know if any lumps start showing....

Needto - should i take nolva or clomid as a precautionary during the 8 weeks or keep it on hand and use it only if symptoms occur?

Please elaborate on what dosage is needed to either answer of the question.

 

[Joel H]

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Yeah I'm looking at trying osta sarms vs prohormones for a couple of reasons. A, no shut down, B, joint healing effects, and C fat loss.

If the gyno can be controlled, it still seems hands down better than prohormones because they can cause gyno, hair loss, prostate, high blood pressure and chlorestoral issues.

I guess to me I think I'd rather risk gyno (which can be caused by pro hormones anyway, right?) than risk gyno and all that other stuff. Plus no PCT, and you don't have to really come off of it if you don't want to from what I've read. Am I missing anything?

This is coming from someone who's never used steroids and I've only dabbled in pro horomones once, and had hair loss and puffy nipples in the 2-3 weeks I tried it (androsol spray about 10 years ago).

Would you guys recommend osta sarms over prohormones? As long as I can take something to combat the potential gyno.... to me it still seems like a better choice?

 

[bren565]

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lets hope peptides dont cause this crap (do they ?)

 

[cop]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

about to start my bottle osta..gonna find out myself...letro in house so no problem...

 

[Gamer2Be08]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

It may raise e2, so sensitive guys may get gyno.

 

[firetruck]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Does anyone how Osta could raise E2? It isn't supposed to be androgenic or raise test.
And if,as needto thinks,there is some AR/ER crossover an AI wouldn't stop it,it would have to be a serm. Have I got that rite?
I wonder If anyone has reported gyno symptoms with S4

 

[veneto82]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

It may raise e2, so sensitive guys may get gyno.

you have used it.. did you get any gyno? and were you taking any serms?

 

[MrKleen73]

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Wow good to know was about to get some to avoid having to pct but if a SERM is needed anyway... I guess it would just depend on the dose needed to avoid the issue, I wouls still keep all the size which is a bonus.

 

[veneto82]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

bump on this

 

[peppi00]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

I seemed to have gotten a lump under right nipple from SARM S4. I took if for about a month and a half last spring and the vision problems were crazy. I would see a light at night and it would have a very very yellowish hue. It did seem to make me more vascular and bulkier but it also aggravated the hell out of my very minor gyno I had from prior roid use. Letro didnt do anything and I was on that for about 2 months. Its weird and kinda nasty but when I squeeze the lump, s$%^ starts coming out of my nipple ... Prami, which I intended to use for gyno, didnt work, but it is AWESOME for leaning out and mood and dreams (and I SWEAR I get more girls with it. really weird...)... I cant seem to get rid of gyno. i am in the process of starting surgery for it, but as a last resort i just started exemestane/nolv/clomid combo. Trying all angles. Exemestane apparently works a different way then letro (type I vs type II) so I am going to try it. Let me know if anyone has had any success with this or maybe in the same situation.

 

[hurricane]

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to the top! this is important info.. dont want to see my good bros left out in the dark

 

[C.K.]

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I seemed to have gotten a lump under right nipple from SARM S4. I took if for about a month and a half last spring and the vision problems were crazy. I would see a light at night and it would have a very very yellowish hue. It did seem to make me more vascular and bulkier but it also aggravated the hell out of my very minor gyno I had from prior roid use. Letro didnt do anything and I was on that for about 2 months. Its weird and kinda nasty but when I squeeze the lump, s$%^ starts coming out of my nipple ... Prami, which I intended to use for gyno, didnt work, but it is AWESOME for leaning out and mood and dreams (and I SWEAR I get more girls with it. really weird...)... I cant seem to get rid of gyno. i am in the process of starting surgery for it, but as a last resort i just started exemestane/nolv/clomid combo. Trying all angles. Exemestane apparently works a different way then letro (type I vs type II) so I am going to try it. Let me know if anyone has had any success with this or maybe in the same situation.

I have old stubborn gyno which isn't roid related and I'm also having trouble getting rid of, my last run of letro/dost/forma only removed half and my second current run at even higher recommended dose doesn't seem to have effected it anymore so... My cycle starting next week includes 800 mgs mast and 500 primo per week and tbol and only one shot of sust, I'm hoping the mast/primo combo will reduce the lil bit left I mean it's only noticeable to me but I am a perfectionist lol

 

[testboi123]

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Thanks for throwing it out there. I had a pebble show up 6 weeks into a 8 week run.

Hey Needto....After you suggested to run formastanzol 5 and 5 for my lump...Its been 4 weeks now and its almost completely gone.

i had same deal man

 

[Cory151]

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Just giving some personal experience from a guy who is susceptible to gyno on AAS, I used a bottle of Osta SARMS straight through (lasted about 2.5 to 3 months at 25mg per day), and I had NO, side effects what so ever. I took no PCT at the end of the 3 weeks and I feel great. I love this stuff. It is truly a new realm in HRT and un detectable performance enhancement.

 

[firetruck]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Just giving some personal experience from a guy who is susceptible to gyno on AAS, I used a bottle of Osta SARMS straight through (lasted about 2.5 to 3 months at 25mg per day), and I had NO, side effects what so ever. I took no PCT at the end of the 3 weeks and I feel great. I love this stuff. It is truly a new realm in HRT and un detectable performance enhancement.

That's good to hear. I'm gyno prone and on week 3 of Osta liking it so far. I am takin 10mg/d nolva just in case

 

[mryar]

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Any updates on this? I'm just about to run a 8 wk osta cycle and wondering if I should just start taking nolvadex at the beginning or do I take it if I start seeing symptoms?

 

[C.K.]

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It is truly a new realm in HRT and un detectable performance enhancement.

funny because I thought it had a negative impact on libido...

 

[needtogetaas]

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see what I am saying guys. I made this thread because I was getting reports and then boom now you see all the peeps coming out of the word work supporting it.. As I was saying it does cause gyno in some users. On paper
it would seem that it should not cause gyo but it does. My guess is the same as before androgen receptor cross over. As many of you know I have been studying the subject of gyno for a wile now and sarms is new to the seen so it will take time for more information to come out.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

well im about to run 8 weeks at 25mg/day and will let you know if any lumps start showing....

Needto - should i take nolva or clomid as a precautionary during the 8 weeks or keep it on hand and use it only if symptoms occur?

Please elaborate on what dosage is needed to either answer of the question.

10mg of nolva a day I think would be plenty enough. Very small dose needed to block the ER.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Does anyone how Osta could raise E2? It isn't supposed to be androgenic or raise test.
And if,as needto thinks,there is some AR/ER crossover an AI wouldn't stop it,it would have to be a serm. Have I got that rite?
I wonder If anyone has reported gyno symptoms with S4

yes you have that correct. If its from cross over then no ai's will not work.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

besides anyone using sarsm during pct is not that smart. Pre pct, or post pct ya but during pct you do not use a androgen like this. Guess what use Fenugreek(testofen) aka natures sarms. It locks onto androgen receptors and acts like a steroid exactly like a sarm does only naturally and with less sides or cross over. I do not support sarms "during pct" and never will.

 

[firetruck]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

see what I am saying guys. I made this thread because I was getting reports and then boom now you see all the peeps coming out of the word work supporting it.. As I was saying it does cause gyno in some users. On paper
it would seem that it should not cause gyo but it does. My guess is the same as before androgen receptor cross over. As many of you know I have been studying the subject of gyno for a wile now and sarms is new to the seen so it will take time for more information to come out.

Im sure im not just speaking for myself but i really appreciate the work that u and others put into studying new products and helping bros out

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: Needs to be put out to the public that osta sarsm does and is causing gyno!!!!!!!

Something has come to my attention. There are companies out there selling osta sarms for cheaper then what it cost to make the shit. From pricing the stuff out you can see these people cant be selling real osta sarms. So what are they selling? Low does liquid dbal or anadrol? I have had literally hundreds of people spread across many forums report osta sarms causing gyno for them but I never stop to start asking each one of them where they got there sarms from. In my mind I just assumed everyone was getting it from sarmssearch I never even new other places were selling the shit..

So With this being said I think it a very real possibility that one of the companies ( or more then a few) is selling something like liquid dbal or a liquid suspended pro hormone and trying to pass it off as sarsm. SO my advice is this. If the price is too good to br true then it probable is. The fact that there are other places selling osta and at such a cheap price throws a bit of a monkey wrench in the field research we are able to do on the compound. Because now we have potentially hundreds if not thousands of people getting there hands on what they beleive to be osta sarms but rather they are getting nothing more then a unknown liquid suspended hormone of another kind altogether. HMMMMMM Now that tosses a wrench into shit don't it lololol . The reports I have gotten that did come from people getting there products from sarmsearch were also taking other products and or steroids so its kind of hard to say now. We have mixed up reviews and now hundreds of people getting fake products.

I spoke with sarmsearch.com today and great length and he showed me a lot of things today. Pricing on making the stuff, where its coming from and other subjects. Its perfectly clear other places are selling there stuff at prices that make it imposable for it to really me sarms.

From now on when some one reports to me they have gotten gyno from there osta I will be sure to ask them where they got it from. In doing so I beleive we maybe able to narrow down a source from where it is coming from. then we can out the sons a bitches who are putting out the bunk products.

The verdict is still out on this now.

 

[Cory151]

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Yeah I knew there had to be more to this story.