what should my first cycle look like

[jortor407]

I plan on doing a cycle. its my first cycle. i keep reading that people that take only 250mg of sustanon regret not starting higher. so heres what i plan on taking. let me know if you think its a good cycle

Deca - 400mg a week for 8 weeks
Sustanon 250 - 500mg a week for 8 weeks
Dbol - 40mg a day for 6 weeks
PCT - 3 weeks after last shot Nolvadex 20mgs ed and Clomid as follows 300mgs first day 200mgs second day and 100mgs for the 3-7 days 50mgs on days 8-14

i was thinking of running arimadex as well but not sure if i should
now the one i was originally going to do goes like this

Deca- wk1-100mg, wk 2-200mg, wk3-300mg, wk4-400mg, wk5-400, wk6-300, wk7-200, wk8-100mg
Sust- 250mg once a wk for the 8wks
Dbol- 40mg ed 1st wk 60mg ed 2nd wk 60mg ed 3rd wk 40mg ed 4th wk 20mg ed 5th wk

which would be best??

stats:
5'11" 178lbs 12%bf my diet is pretty good and ive been working out for about 3yrs now and not making anymore gains. i use to weigh 140lb before i started working out but i cant seem to pass 180lbs. im trying to gain at least 30lbs on this cycle.

your help is greatly appreciated!

 

[Dogfox]

This is a badly mapped cycle.
I would say natural bulk until you can reach 185-190. Then cycle.

Dont do deca, just do the test and the Dbol. PCt 10 days after last inj 20mgs nolva 2 weeks, 10mg 2 weeks. Along with some sustain alpha. Use HCG on cycle starting 3rd week at 250ius twice a week until last inj of test.
D aspartic acid for after PCT to keep test levels up.
Really need to be bigger to start with tho, and dont pyramid your juice just use a consistent dose every week. So id put off the cycle for a little bit and build another 10bs mass then add your 20-30 on top of that.

 

[25homes]

Test 500mg no deca

 

[stevesmi]

you are overdoing the dosages, doesn't matter if its a 1st cycle or 10th cycle. no need for that much deca or dbol.

deca 300mg/week is sufficient, as is 20-30mg/day dbol. for PCT clomid is outrageous (and people wonder why they get bad sides from it).. no more then 25mg/day of clomid.. cut the tab in half. SERM's should be taken in small dosages conservatively. seems like you have little patience like many noobs

for a first cycle just do 500/week sustanon.

and it doesn't matter if you gain 30 pounds on this cycle you mapped out. a lot of that is water weight anyway with deca/dbol. unless you enjoy moon face then 30 pound gain is pointless.

 

[jortor407]

This is a badly mapped cycle.
I would say natural bulk until you can reach 185-190. Then cycle.

Dont do deca, just do the test and the Dbol. PCt 10 days after last inj 20mgs nolva 2 weeks, 10mg 2 weeks. Along with some sustain alpha. Use HCG on cycle starting 3rd week at 250ius twice a week until last inj of test.
D aspartic acid for after PCT to keep test levels up.
Really need to be bigger to start with tho, and dont pyramid your juice just use a consistent dose every week. So id put off the cycle for a little bit and build another 10bs mass then add your 20-30 on top of that.

what hcg would you recomend?

 

[jortor407]

Test 500mg no deca

i was thinking of this one as well but i already have the deca on hand and only plan on doing one cycle

 

[jortor407]

you are overdoing the dosages, doesn't matter if its a 1st cycle or 10th cycle. no need for that much deca or dbol.

deca 300mg/week is sufficient, as is 20-30mg/day dbol. for PCT clomid is outrageous (and people wonder why they get bad sides from it).. no more then 25mg/day of clomid.. cut the tab in half. SERM's should be taken in small dosages conservatively. seems like you have little patience like many noobs

for a first cycle just do 500/week sustanon.

and it doesn't matter if you gain 30 pounds on this cycle you mapped out. a lot of that is water weight anyway with deca/dbol. unless you enjoy moon face then 30 pound gain is pointless.

thanks for the help will reconsider dosage

 

[Dogfox]

real hcg preferable. The kind you inject, save the deca for another cycle.
I dont know of many people who only do one cycle, for some thats the plan but things change

 

[Voijn]

idd go for Primo or Var only. Less sides and leave gyno out of the game
Then next cycle could be 2compounds Primo/Var ?

3´d Test ect.

 

[jortor407]

I guess its back to the drawing board. I have patience so ill wait til i hit 185-190lbs, and ill rethink my cycle. Thanks everyone that answered. Really appreciate it!