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Legalization of Anabolic Steroids in the US
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I think it should be legall. For one thing steroids aren't very dangerous and all the horror stories are usualy propaganda. Besides smoking and drinking is alot worse for your health and not to mention smoking affects peoples health around you. Plus their is so many people killed by drunk drivers ed but yet alcohol is still legal. You could shoot as much gear as you want and it will not affect anybody elses life but your own. I see no logical reason that steroids are illegal. They think its cheating if an athlete uses it. Well, most athletes already use it anyway and I think steroids is a part of athletics and always will be weather people like it or not. Their sons favorite football player and roll model is probably jacked on gear so I think the general public should just accept it.
I don't think it should be legal, but just taken off of the schedule III list. In no way are these drugs similar to the other substances on the schedule III list. Give docs the ability to write scripts freely, that way people using will get themselves checked before/during/and post cycle. To me it's no different than cosmetic surgery. They don't have an OTC "cosmetic surgery kit", so why should AAS be OTC?
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JC Grifter
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1. Make the penalty less severe... take off the sheduleIII list.
2. If it were to be legal, make people have to get educated, take classes and have to get some sort of license.
2. If it were to be legal, make people have to get educated, take classes and have to get some sort of license.
Make them legal by script only. Also, take of schedule 3 and make penalty for possession less severe. Why is it o.k. for a 14 or 15 year old girl to go to a plastic surgeon and have a nose, or boob job but a 25 year old man can't get a 10cc bottle of cypionate prescribed to him. Something else that is bullshit is legalized auto racing. How many people die every year on the track? A man got killed just this last week in fact. What about Dale Ernhardt last year. Why is it o.k. for those guys to go out and risk their lives doing what they love and us guys can't take AS that are much less of a serious risk. Same thing about drinking and smoking. This country is all about the money. Think of the cash flow that all of the above brings in. It's all politics. BamBam
solidspine
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Legalize it, the prices will drop and it will be easier to get.
Companies would be able to advertise, promote and teach people the benefits and how to use effectively and safely.
Companies would be able to advertise, promote and teach people the benefits and how to use effectively and safely.
Baby Gorilla
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Definitely....
As people will use AAS legal or illegal, allowing it to be obtained for any reason through a doctor who will monitor the patient is the best way to ensure they are used responsibly.
Banning some but not others or allowing them for only certain reasons will only maintain the status quo.
As people will use AAS legal or illegal, allowing it to be obtained for any reason through a doctor who will monitor the patient is the best way to ensure they are used responsibly.
Banning some but not others or allowing them for only certain reasons will only maintain the status quo.
my vote is for them to stay illegal.
like sk* said, there would be far too many people abusing them (yes yes i know about alcohol abuse) because of the fact that most people are stupid. (yes that is objective, anyone who argues otherwise is a fool). plus it keeps people smaller than us
like sk* said, there would be far too many people abusing them (yes yes i know about alcohol abuse) because of the fact that most people are stupid. (yes that is objective, anyone who argues otherwise is a fool). plus it keeps people smaller than us
My vote is to keep it illegal. If they legalize it, AAS won't be special anymore. Getting big and ripped won't mean shit, because you'll have almost everybody juicing, and you'll have juiceheads all over the place.
Let's keep the competition low, and keep that special feeling deep inside of us.
Let's keep the competition low, and keep that special feeling deep inside of us.
I think it should be legal. Certainly, only prescribed at small doses.
Think of how many people have MESSED themselves up by taking roids being uneducated about proper use.
If a man can go to a doctor and have him prescribe me hormones to grow boobs and become a woman. Then why is it illegal for a man to want to build more muscle and become more of a MAN.
Same thing goes for pec implants and calf implants.
Legalization of steroids is probably something we will never see.
To be honest, I am glad we live in the world today. Think about it, a few decades from now... there will probably be genetic altering.
People will be genetically programmed to be built like superman and be among the elite. Everyone will be the same w/o having to work their ass off in the gym. That is a world I would hate to live in.
I am glad I live in the world as it is today where to become one of the elite, who has a body that is a work of art... still requires year and years of dedication and hard training..
Just my .02 cents. -- I am really drunk right now BTW
Pject
Think of how many people have MESSED themselves up by taking roids being uneducated about proper use.
If a man can go to a doctor and have him prescribe me hormones to grow boobs and become a woman. Then why is it illegal for a man to want to build more muscle and become more of a MAN.
Same thing goes for pec implants and calf implants.
Legalization of steroids is probably something we will never see.
To be honest, I am glad we live in the world today. Think about it, a few decades from now... there will probably be genetic altering.
People will be genetically programmed to be built like superman and be among the elite. Everyone will be the same w/o having to work their ass off in the gym. That is a world I would hate to live in.
I am glad I live in the world as it is today where to become one of the elite, who has a body that is a work of art... still requires year and years of dedication and hard training..
Just my .02 cents. -- I am really drunk right now BTW
Pject
Damm
Now that I think about it I want them to only be available with a script.
That might stop everybody from using them. Steriods will not turn the average joe into a physical specimen. It takes diet and training, but I don't want anymore competition.
The severe penalties need to be done with. I sure don't want them OTC, talk about dumb asses flooding our legal system with litigation.
"I lost my hair, I'm sueing!"
"Where are my nuts, I'm sueing"
"I got disfigured by acne, I'm sueing"
As we know warning labels and personal responsibility does not exist in america.
I could see it now, 10 years from now a class action suit involving dumb asses that stayed on 2 grams of test and 17a steriods 7 years straight with no break.
Dumb asses and lawyers fuck it up for everybody.
Now that I think about it I want them to only be available with a script.
That might stop everybody from using them. Steriods will not turn the average joe into a physical specimen. It takes diet and training, but I don't want anymore competition.
The severe penalties need to be done with. I sure don't want them OTC, talk about dumb asses flooding our legal system with litigation.
"I lost my hair, I'm sueing!"
"Where are my nuts, I'm sueing"
"I got disfigured by acne, I'm sueing"
As we know warning labels and personal responsibility does not exist in america.
I could see it now, 10 years from now a class action suit involving dumb asses that stayed on 2 grams of test and 17a steriods 7 years straight with no break.
Dumb asses and lawyers fuck it up for everybody.
wartime100
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D bol should be served with school lunches. Proper steroid use should be taught in gym class!
Adrenaline
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Well, in Canada they are in a different class of drugs. Getting caught with steroids there isnt really a bad thing, like coke, weed or whatever would be. I think the u.s. should be the same, these drugs should not be even close to teh same class of drugs like herion. I also think that each persons doctor should be allowed to prescribe a/s to them if they are of age and mature about the whole thing.
In no way should AAS be legal and OTC. That is asking the mentally defficient and the lazy to abuse, misuse, and further run the image of AS through the mud. The many law suits filed would have every pharmacuetucal company dropping out of AS manufacturing and again lead to strict controll of these drugs to prevent further harm to "society". I do, however, support decriminalization under controlled use. I do not supprt the general practitioner having the capabilities to prescribe and recomend usage on thses drugs as they are virtually as clueless as lawmakers and the general public about the effects and proper use of AS. We would need specialized medical proffesionals educated in these hormones with the capabilities to asses ones needs for the drugs and the ability to moniter thier health. A sub-species of sports doctors would be needed to soley focus thier practice on AS use, dispension, and monitering of each patient. This is the only way I could foresee AS use even remotely becoming a freedom of choice. Unfortunately politics and the dollar are in control of this situation and the general public is easily led to beleive anythign they are told. Tell people all drugs are bad...sell that idea...make a campaign stand against drugs ...look like the savior. Drug laws have nothing to do with protecting people or society. They are a vehicle for politicians to ride to office on.
liquidmuscle
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still keep it illegal but lessen the penalties for ex. getting caught witha small amount of weed? instead of getting popped for a few vials and tabs and spend time in a federal prison
Studly Hungwell
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There are already a few doctors who prescribe some approved gear for bodybuilders. They only gives scripts for 30 day supply and blood work is required.
I know this to be true for I visit one from time to time.
Latest news from the clinic is that deca is no longer approved
I know this to be true for I visit one from time to time.
Latest news from the clinic is that deca is no longer approved
Punschkrapfen
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it would be interesting to compare countries where AS are legal to obtain and use with the US. I for example have never heard that the Mexicans or the Thai do have a problem with rampant AS use even its easy to get them there.Beezers said:
Americans have FAR more disposible income and an acoompanying consumer culture that generates greed and impatience. Everything is a disease in this country and as such drugs play a huge part in our culture. THis is not because everyhting is a disease. It's because the pharma companies are selling everything as a disease in order to sell drugs. Most people in this country are lazy and ignorant...esspecialyl when it comes to drugs. Instead of eating right and exercising people go running to their GP for the next great wright loss drug. Mexicans and Thai's have greater concerns and less money to spend. Thier cultues aren't nearly as consumer and marketing oriented as America either. I don't know that America would have rampant AS use iif it was either decriminalized or legalized, but judging by the lazziness and ignorance of the American population there would be a rash of missuse cases and an exacerbation of the "AS is a short cut" mentality.
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alien amp pharm
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trial0r said:my vote is for them to stay illegal.
like sk* said, there would be far too many people abusing them (yes yes i know about alcohol abuse) because of the fact that most people are stupid. (yes that is objective, anyone who argues otherwise is a fool). plus it keeps people smaller than us
I agree with this statement 100%.
Now if I can only get them to legalize beastiality...........
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Animal
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No deca?
And why isn't deca 'approved' any longer?
And why isn't deca 'approved' any longer?
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HULKSTER
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BEEZERS needs a reality check. Other then age, THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS ON WHO CAN BUY AND INGEST ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO. Now look at all the people who've died from cigarette smoking and alcohol use and/or alchohol-related driving accidents. Are you telling me that not only should AAS be regulated, but OUTRIGHT BANNED, while tobacco and alcohol can be sold legally without prior doctor approval, health restrictions, etc.? Dude, compare how many have died from alcohol and tobacco in the last 30 years to how many people have died from AAS in the last 30 years! So which is the greatest danger that should garner government intervention and banishment? AAS isn't banned due to health concerns, otherwise alcohol and cigarettes would have been banned a long time ago. The bottom line is, alcohol and cigarette companies have paid BILLIONS in TAX REVENUE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT over the years, while AAS companies---even when legal---paid shit. Therefore, the politicians have let their biggest tax payers and campaign contributors dictate what substances should and should not be legal. Shit, if politicians will allow women to commit abortion/murder against an unborn child because it's "their bodies", well then we should all be able to use AAS on "our bodies"!
hell
yeah it should be legalized. you shouldnt be able to buy them without proper ID and be over 21. Thats it, bottomline.
Would use be more rampant then now, I dont know. Would physiques be any better, no. Look at all the people now that juice and dont even look like they lift.
No way should the government tell people what they should ingest just cause they cant make all the money off it like tobacco and alcohol.
And if it is such a health concern why treat it as a crime? People can go to the bar and drink a 1/5th of rum and get behing a 2000lb car so please save the concerns about me doing 500mg of test a week.
This is another law the ignorant masses begged the government to give them. They want to believe that the athletes are natural. Whats funny is if you take any other supplement that works its not "cheating" but if you take juice it is. Explain that logic.
Fucking juiced out east germans used to blow us away, and whats funny is the records keep falling and we want to believe its because of advanced american training.
Its OK to have hair transplants, fake tits, fake nails, plastic surgery, transexual surgery, but take something to build muscles other then the snake oils supplements and you are scum of the earth.
People think that juice = good physique or strength, but the truth is alot of people can juse all the juice in the world and never have a great body or bench 500lbs.
Maybe the cold war had something to do with it. As on the intenational level we got our asses kicked and had to blame it on something, therefor steroids became "evil"
Remember rocky 4, they showed drago taking juice and sly traing naturally? I bet if we kicked the east germans and russians ass juice would be legal. Just my 2 cents!!!
yeah it should be legalized. you shouldnt be able to buy them without proper ID and be over 21. Thats it, bottomline.
Would use be more rampant then now, I dont know. Would physiques be any better, no. Look at all the people now that juice and dont even look like they lift.
No way should the government tell people what they should ingest just cause they cant make all the money off it like tobacco and alcohol.
And if it is such a health concern why treat it as a crime? People can go to the bar and drink a 1/5th of rum and get behing a 2000lb car so please save the concerns about me doing 500mg of test a week.
This is another law the ignorant masses begged the government to give them. They want to believe that the athletes are natural. Whats funny is if you take any other supplement that works its not "cheating" but if you take juice it is. Explain that logic.
Fucking juiced out east germans used to blow us away, and whats funny is the records keep falling and we want to believe its because of advanced american training.
Its OK to have hair transplants, fake tits, fake nails, plastic surgery, transexual surgery, but take something to build muscles other then the snake oils supplements and you are scum of the earth.
People think that juice = good physique or strength, but the truth is alot of people can juse all the juice in the world and never have a great body or bench 500lbs.
Maybe the cold war had something to do with it. As on the intenational level we got our asses kicked and had to blame it on something, therefor steroids became "evil"
Remember rocky 4, they showed drago taking juice and sly traing naturally? I bet if we kicked the east germans and russians ass juice would be legal. Just my 2 cents!!!
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HULKSTER
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Right on, bro! The VAST MAJORITY OF POLITICIANS who supported, and voted, on the banning of AAS probably never worked out in their fucking lives. So their fat, ugly and very jealous asses thought they would even the playing field against all the hot studs who were fucking their "trophy wives" behind their backs!
Dial_tone said:
thats my opinion, id like to hear about more physicians that have the education in steroid use that some people in bodybuilding do
Dark_Stalker
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Amen to that !
We have the exact same view bro
SeymourCuts
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From a purely moral/ethical/philosophical standpoint, I see no reason they should not be legal OTC with warnings and sources of education and instruction being available. The people who choose to ignore the warnings and available education proceeding to abuse rather than safely use should be left to experience the consequences of their own stupidity with no legal footing to sue from. This has a cleansing effect on society. On one hand, other people see the consequences that they had to go through as a result of their stupidity and subsequently become more mindful of their own choices. On another hand, it can potentially rid these people from the broader gene pool. And finally, if they kill themselves off through their own willful stupidity, other people are protected from potentially stupid choices with more far-reaching direct impact. Example scenario: he dies on the floor of his bathroom because he decided not to asperate like he was told. Another example: he decides a 12 week stack of high doses of Halo and A-Bombs is a great first cycle, and proceeds to kick the bucket due to liver failure. One of many possible example scenarios that was then avoided: he leaves the bar after a number of shots, hops in his car and proceeds to take out himself along with a mother and her young children in another car.
Of course then there's the vain, selfish side of me that likes standing out from the crowd to some extent, but recognizes that living in an extremely looks/image-centric country with the highest average discretionary income levels of anywhere and where cosmetic surgeons make more than just about anyone, the probability of a currently above-average looking male body becoming a dime a dozen is high. He doesn't like the idea of them being legal.
Of course then there's the vain, selfish side of me that likes standing out from the crowd to some extent, but recognizes that living in an extremely looks/image-centric country with the highest average discretionary income levels of anywhere and where cosmetic surgeons make more than just about anyone, the probability of a currently above-average looking male body becoming a dime a dozen is high. He doesn't like the idea of them being legal.
kenpolifter
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Ya know it's funny. the media can sit here and bash steroid use and yet more people die each year from lawn mower accidents , lightning strikes and a bunch more individual stats than steroid use over the last 20 years. help me with this one.
Tricepratus
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liquidmuscle said:
I am with you liquidmuscle. No penalties for small, personal use AAS. If AAS became legal, there isn´t black market
and I can´t doing b......
( Sorry, american brothers)
MSE-OP ARMY
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a license would deffently be a great idea but a huge penelty for getting them for minors
beachhead06
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I agree. Steroids should not be on the schedule III list, but still illegal.
By keeping them illegal but off the schedule III list users have no ground to sue if they harm themselves through abuse, and it prevents lazy people who don't diet, and train hard from trying to use steroids as a short cut...
*The_West*
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possesion of steroids for personal use is not illegal in england, we have no problems with steroid abuse.
beachhead06
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Re: hell
I didn't agree with the whole post BUT this part I did agree with whole heartily
I didn't agree with the whole post BUT this part I did agree with whole heartily
Some should be legal, probably by prescription.
In 1994, it was politicians who put them in the schedule of controlled substances. The AMA and DEA recommended against outlawing them.
More and more research is coming out that links low testosterone in men with metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and even strokes.
In 1994, it was politicians who put them in the schedule of controlled substances. The AMA and DEA recommended against outlawing them.
More and more research is coming out that links low testosterone in men with metabolic syndrome, diabetes, and even strokes.
Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
I do not agree with some of the laws regarding the possession of "performance enhancing drugs". Any doctor would tell you that the risk involved with anabolic steroids being used by a healthy adult male are minimal and within acceptable ranges. The only common negative side effect that responsible adult male steriod users may have to accept is acne and male pattern baldness. I remember when I was younger literature and television was plastered with terrifying stories of "roid rage", men with shrunken testicles, or gynocomastia. I have yet to meet one responsible healthy adult that CHOOSES to use anabolic steroids and suffers from any of these non-fact based hypes.
I do not agree with some of the laws regarding the possession of "performance enhancing drugs". Any doctor would tell you that the risk involved with anabolic steroids being used by a healthy adult male are minimal and within acceptable ranges. The only common negative side effect that responsible adult male steriod users may have to accept is acne and male pattern baldness. I remember when I was younger literature and television was plastered with terrifying stories of "roid rage", men with shrunken testicles, or gynocomastia. I have yet to meet one responsible healthy adult that CHOOSES to use anabolic steroids and suffers from any of these non-fact based hypes.
32.74% responded: AAS should still be illegal ???
Hormones should not be illegal. I have never heard of someone killing an entire family in a car wreck because they where high on deca.
Health risks? No one's business. Individual freedom does come with individual responsibility. If not, then tobacco and alchohol should bother be illegal.
How about making tylenol (acetaminophen) illegal right now? It destroys more livers then AAS!
Hormones should not be illegal. I have never heard of someone killing an entire family in a car wreck because they where high on deca.
Health risks? No one's business. Individual freedom does come with individual responsibility. If not, then tobacco and alchohol should bother be illegal.
How about making tylenol (acetaminophen) illegal right now? It destroys more livers then AAS!
exactly. It should be up to the users discretion just like alcohol, cigarettes, ect.
How about ibuprofen. It rips about stomach lining and intestinal walls, etc. Yet it is available OTC.
It is a persons responsibility to use such products and to know the risks while taking.
It should be legal, no good reason can make me believe that it should be illegal.
I agree. AAS should not be illegal and even over the counter.
I have used for over 50 years, prescribed and not. My attitude was it was my business and I would pay the price IF ANY, and reap the rewards. And now ... even more strongly. There is too little police budget money to even pursue the recreational user. Notice how LE beat on a few baseball players and left Arnold alone???
The real crime was to force the purchase transaction to be illegal and cause it sometimes to be in the hands of some shadey characters. However ... most of the people were just other gym guys. Big deal.
This nation needs to identify real criminals and activities, and use our budget money to go after them. And aas is way down at the bottom with parking tickets.
I live in Detroit. Real crime is kids who can't read and good working people with no jobs!!
I have used for over 50 years, prescribed and not. My attitude was it was my business and I would pay the price IF ANY, and reap the rewards. And now ... even more strongly. There is too little police budget money to even pursue the recreational user. Notice how LE beat on a few baseball players and left Arnold alone???
The real crime was to force the purchase transaction to be illegal and cause it sometimes to be in the hands of some shadey characters. However ... most of the people were just other gym guys. Big deal.
This nation needs to identify real criminals and activities, and use our budget money to go after them. And aas is way down at the bottom with parking tickets.
I live in Detroit. Real crime is kids who can't read and good working people with no jobs!!
princeshock
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
Yeah, should be legal.
Yeah, should be legal.
ArmaniAK47
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
AAS should be legalized.. period.
Our liberty is being trampled by making these drugs illegal and the punishment as severe as it is..
We have these amazing compounds that can aid our immune system and improve our health and vitality.. But the US government cares more about it's hate game and profit over sickness via the drug corperations.
It makes me sick.. but at least there are some of us that do not listen to the lies. Some of us find these and use them anyways.
AAS should be legalized.. period.
Our liberty is being trampled by making these drugs illegal and the punishment as severe as it is..
We have these amazing compounds that can aid our immune system and improve our health and vitality.. But the US government cares more about it's hate game and profit over sickness via the drug corperations.
It makes me sick.. but at least there are some of us that do not listen to the lies. Some of us find these and use them anyways.
lucifer911
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who the hell is voting it should be illegal? I suggest we ban those users from EF immediately..
you can go to a pharmacist and buy OTC medicines and if you abuse them you get worse side effects than steroids.
Same with alcohol!!
who the hell is voting it should be illegal? I suggest we ban those users from EF immediately..
you can go to a pharmacist and buy OTC medicines and if you abuse them you get worse side effects than steroids.
Same with alcohol!!
smokey6969
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
drinking age is 21 why not have a pinning age
drinking age is 21 why not have a pinning age
Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
AAS should be legal. They're not any more dangerous than shit like cigarettes. If you're an abuser, then its your own decision to kill yourself. If you rage and commit crimes, you end up in jail. Also your decision. You face the consequences of abusing the substance.
People who do stupid shit like that shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.
AAS should be legal. They're not any more dangerous than shit like cigarettes. If you're an abuser, then its your own decision to kill yourself. If you rage and commit crimes, you end up in jail. Also your decision. You face the consequences of abusing the substance.
People who do stupid shit like that shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.
Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
they are illegal now and people still get them.
and having a pinning age of 21+ isn't gonna make a difference. there are 20 year olds at frat parties drinking all the time and its 21+ to drink.
so lets do the logical thing. keep things as they are now. keep educating people and lets not hammer people for using them for rec purposes. dealing them or selling to a minor should be strictly enforced.
steroids are powerful stuff and being able to walk into a pharmacy to buy them like any OTC is asking for trouble cause people are not educated on how to use them.
they are illegal now and people still get them.
and having a pinning age of 21+ isn't gonna make a difference. there are 20 year olds at frat parties drinking all the time and its 21+ to drink.
so lets do the logical thing. keep things as they are now. keep educating people and lets not hammer people for using them for rec purposes. dealing them or selling to a minor should be strictly enforced.
steroids are powerful stuff and being able to walk into a pharmacy to buy them like any OTC is asking for trouble cause people are not educated on how to use them.
Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
legalization of a compound that enhances the muscle tone, quality of life, etc would be a benefit to our citizens...remember the 70+ guy that was interviewed that had a physique and energy level better than most 30 year olds I know?... Its not like a debilatating, destructive drug like meth...compare the dental situation of a meth user versus the beautiful magazine ready body of a bodybuilder...hmmmm. I know which I prefer. and so does mainstream america even if they are too stubborn to admit it.
If we really wanted au natural, we would have fat, unfit, ugly people on the cover of magazines, and manequins would be size 14...but what are they? trim, fit, and attractive. no belly rolls, no double chins, no front bums...
Take that as your answer.
legalization of a compound that enhances the muscle tone, quality of life, etc would be a benefit to our citizens...remember the 70+ guy that was interviewed that had a physique and energy level better than most 30 year olds I know?... Its not like a debilatating, destructive drug like meth...compare the dental situation of a meth user versus the beautiful magazine ready body of a bodybuilder...hmmmm. I know which I prefer. and so does mainstream america even if they are too stubborn to admit it.
If we really wanted au natural, we would have fat, unfit, ugly people on the cover of magazines, and manequins would be size 14...but what are they? trim, fit, and attractive. no belly rolls, no double chins, no front bums...
Take that as your answer.
Lancer55
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
They should be legal. If one can choose to harm themselves with cigarettes or alcohol which both are way worse than roids than why ban roids. If anything they would benefit the US I believe we are one of the fattest countries in the world today and this would help solve that problem. The people who abuse them and all the horror stories are the reason they're illegal anyone who knows anything about them knows that they really aren't that dangerous unless you are being an idiot with them by abusing them. Alcohol and cigarettes are legal and are way worse. Instead of them cracking down on roids they should be going after the more dangerous drugs cocaine, meth, heroin, ect.
They should be legal. If one can choose to harm themselves with cigarettes or alcohol which both are way worse than roids than why ban roids. If anything they would benefit the US I believe we are one of the fattest countries in the world today and this would help solve that problem. The people who abuse them and all the horror stories are the reason they're illegal anyone who knows anything about them knows that they really aren't that dangerous unless you are being an idiot with them by abusing them. Alcohol and cigarettes are legal and are way worse. Instead of them cracking down on roids they should be going after the more dangerous drugs cocaine, meth, heroin, ect.
deadpool100
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
Yes i really think they should legalize them.
Yes i really think they should legalize them.
Stocks_and_Steroids
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It's always easy to tell who never stepped foot outside the United States. Many other countries have AAS sold OTC and there is no problem there. I don't need the goverment to babysit me, maybe you do. But I don't and neither do many others. Simply amazing how brainwashed many people are.
Lancer55
Elite Greek
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I am thinking after college I want to move to one of those countires, love mine but hate all the bs, altho im sure theres bs everywhere but a change would be nice
JohnRambo
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Stallones unknown, younger brother?
JohnRambo
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Stallones unknown and younger brother?
mohdgame
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
It is really a stupid thing to ban steroids when it does less harm than cigarettes or drinking. They treat it like if it was meth or cocaine or something dangerous. I mean look at this video "YouTube - Rep. Henry Waxman clueless in Bigger Stronger Faster" It clearly shows how clueless the American government is. The only reason that is banned to protect baseball or other sports from cheating....
It is really a stupid thing to ban steroids when it does less harm than cigarettes or drinking. They treat it like if it was meth or cocaine or something dangerous. I mean look at this video "YouTube - Rep. Henry Waxman clueless in Bigger Stronger Faster" It clearly shows how clueless the American government is. The only reason that is banned to protect baseball or other sports from cheating....
Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
I don't think they will ever be legal in the US. Our population is a bunch of fatbodies, and I don't see a fat person sympathizing with a fit, attractive person. Hell no. They would burn you at the stake first. I personally believe nearly everyone knows someone who's dabbled with pot, cocaine, or other party drugs. Even though anabolics are equal or less severe in the eyes of the law in certain states, I believe public opinion (the lynch mob) will keep these products demonized, encouraging a stiff penalty for breaking the law (while other drugs get more lenient). A negative outlook, but I don't think I'm far from the truth.
I don't think they will ever be legal in the US. Our population is a bunch of fatbodies, and I don't see a fat person sympathizing with a fit, attractive person. Hell no. They would burn you at the stake first. I personally believe nearly everyone knows someone who's dabbled with pot, cocaine, or other party drugs. Even though anabolics are equal or less severe in the eyes of the law in certain states, I believe public opinion (the lynch mob) will keep these products demonized, encouraging a stiff penalty for breaking the law (while other drugs get more lenient). A negative outlook, but I don't think I'm far from the truth.
Lancer55
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Re: POLL: Legalization of AAS in US
I never really thought of it like that until now, your right man.
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noneovyourbusiness
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Ok I'm in Canada so here is what I think, take it or leave it. I agree that aas should be legal with age limits and warnings. Here in Canada you can be 18 years old and drink legally in certain provinces but only serve booze in others. Now you need to be 19 to sell smokes but 21 to buy. We give post menopausal women drugs so they don't resemble their husbands. We allow same sex marriages, legal pot to people that carry a government card hat allows them to smoke, carry, and grow. Also their are legal companies that deliver weed to these people. Women can go to a free abortion clinic. People smoke up on parliament hill and municipal, provincial, and federal cops can only watch.
In that paragraph, most laws have been broken in most countries, here though, not a chance. I am going to be starting my first cycle next spring. I won't be some fool that hasn't educated myself on all of the benefits and affects that this decision has, nor will I buy from some jacked guy at the gym that could be a UC cop. I'm sure if some of you look at Jessie Ventura and Arnold Schwarzenegger and ask their views, of course with any government, they will side with government and deny any involvement. But if you have enough people yelling, and money or a sympathetic ears, it could change. Just my Canadian two cents like I said take it or leave it, but look at Viagra and how many men, marriages and lives just that one drug has helped. And their pitch" male enhancement drug"!
In that paragraph, most laws have been broken in most countries, here though, not a chance. I am going to be starting my first cycle next spring. I won't be some fool that hasn't educated myself on all of the benefits and affects that this decision has, nor will I buy from some jacked guy at the gym that could be a UC cop. I'm sure if some of you look at Jessie Ventura and Arnold Schwarzenegger and ask their views, of course with any government, they will side with government and deny any involvement. But if you have enough people yelling, and money or a sympathetic ears, it could change. Just my Canadian two cents like I said take it or leave it, but look at Viagra and how many men, marriages and lives just that one drug has helped. And their pitch" male enhancement drug"!
Honestly, in the US it comes down to the fact that our lives should not be controlled by a government.
You should be able to do what you want as long as it isn't harming anyone else. Im for the legalization of all drugs, just for the simple fact that its my body dont tell me what i can and cant do.
I dont use heroin, crack, weed... nothing like that, i drink sometimes, not in excess, and i've used AAS.
I know the argument is out there that when people are high on drugs they could harm people around them... Alcohols perfectly legal if you're 21 and look at the number of drunk driving fatalities. All these drunk drivers made the choice to drink and are held accountable for their actions while drunk.
The law should be exactly the same for all other forms of drugs. if you do something crazy while high you should be held accountable and the punishment should be severe.
I dont need a government telling me what i can and cant put into my body. Its mine.
You should be able to do what you want as long as it isn't harming anyone else. Im for the legalization of all drugs, just for the simple fact that its my body dont tell me what i can and cant do.
I dont use heroin, crack, weed... nothing like that, i drink sometimes, not in excess, and i've used AAS.
I know the argument is out there that when people are high on drugs they could harm people around them... Alcohols perfectly legal if you're 21 and look at the number of drunk driving fatalities. All these drunk drivers made the choice to drink and are held accountable for their actions while drunk.
The law should be exactly the same for all other forms of drugs. if you do something crazy while high you should be held accountable and the punishment should be severe.
I dont need a government telling me what i can and cant put into my body. Its mine.
The real truth comes down to money. All these garbage supplement in the market today for performance enchaning and losing weight would lose business if AAS became legal. They are just using the the harmful excuse to sustain there business. I'm pretty sure there is more to it, but I haven't trully looked into the subject. THe US is basically run by bankers, the same goes for same sex marriage think about the health insurance benefits etc... They are just using the whole religion excuse to protect them from losing money.
hey buddy I have been to many countries so don't start this bs with me.
secondly THERE IS A PROBLEM in countries where you can buy steroids otc, every teen in the gym is on them!! 100% of them!! and guess what? they don't know what they are doing. I'm not saying the government should babysit anyone, I'm saying we should have common sense towards things and keep roids out of the hands of kids.
bastiaan89
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Where's the 'they should be legal no matter what' button?
Personal responsibility and those not responsible deserve the consequences at best.
Just don't have em sold to kids.
Lol at the comment of all teens in the gym in countries where they're legal OTC being on them.
I can second that.
They can't all be genetic freaks, I was kind of making excuses having a hard time accepting it but it's true.
21+ I think would be a good measure.
Not everything OTC, but almost everything.
Personal responsibility and those not responsible deserve the consequences at best.
Just don't have em sold to kids.
Lol at the comment of all teens in the gym in countries where they're legal OTC being on them.
I can second that.
They can't all be genetic freaks, I was kind of making excuses having a hard time accepting it but it's true.
21+ I think would be a good measure.
Not everything OTC, but almost everything.
tilltheend
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AAS ARE LEGAL IN THE USA. Goto an endocrinologist, and ask them about hormone replacement therapy if your testosterone levels are inadequate.
You got that right.
They make a crazy amount of new things illegal everyday, They're quick to do that...
How often do they ever repeal laws? Not often. they just keep taking them on.
Stupid politicians think they look good by passing more laws, what they need to do is just collect their paycheck and sit at home, we'd be far better off.
OldSchoolGuy
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Anybody remember when gear was made into a schedule III? Anybody know why? I believe that once again, our overbearing, over intrusive government decided for everyone what was best(what a joke). If gear were really as bad as they say, then where is the documentation to prove it?
1Johnboy
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^^^^ What Steve is saying. They should NOT be legalized, we see it every week here. Some dumbass 17 year old kid with a dumbass 'friend' recommends AAS and the kid totally fucks himself up on them because he has no idea what he is doing. PCT, whats that, and oh real men dont need that blah, blah.
I dont like the idea of jail time if caught but it is better than our youths permanetly destroying themselves.
On topic...
What do you think about the laws regarding steroids in the UK.
Here they're a class C drug which means its an offence to supply (sell OR give) but importing small amounts for personal use is acceptable. Bear in mind UK law is less black & white, usually quite subjective, if for example a 6' 240lbs bodybuilder were to be found in possession of a couple of vials of test there'd be no problem but if some skinny guy is found to have half a pint's worth in his closet he'd most likely get charged with intent to supply. This way legitimate users can juice without fear of a criminal record and kids can't just pick some up and start with no knowledge.
What do you think about the laws regarding steroids in the UK.
Here they're a class C drug which means its an offence to supply (sell OR give) but importing small amounts for personal use is acceptable. Bear in mind UK law is less black & white, usually quite subjective, if for example a 6' 240lbs bodybuilder were to be found in possession of a couple of vials of test there'd be no problem but if some skinny guy is found to have half a pint's worth in his closet he'd most likely get charged with intent to supply. This way legitimate users can juice without fear of a criminal record and kids can't just pick some up and start with no knowledge.
RADAR
Well-known member
I think they should be taken off of the Schedule 111 list, how stupid can you get.
I also think you should be evalouted by a DR Before you can atain them.
I'm going on 59 and can kick anyones ass half my age ..........take that as your answer!
My comment there was to make a point, People are more likely not to mess with me if i'm build more than the average Joe.
I also think you should be evalouted by a DR Before you can atain them.
I'm going on 59 and can kick anyones ass half my age ..........take that as your answer!
My comment there was to make a point, People are more likely not to mess with me if i'm build more than the average Joe.
Damn...2002? Is this the oldest thread lol???
DamiansLucifer
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Steroids should never be legal, especially as in OTC legal. Think of how many uneducated kids come on here with absolutely no idea what they're doing. The average age of steroid users would drop significantly. The government absolutely has to protect people by keeping steroids illegal. We shouldn't make it easier for them to harm themselves.
Out of every illegal drug, steroids probably have the highest potential of causing long-term damage with the smallest amount of use. You can use cocaine, heroin, even meth for a long time and the body can fairly rapidly recover. Shit, heroin addicts often have less cases of heart disease and other problems. Meth is a close second. The body is great at healing itself - but steroids are the only one that permanently f's your hormones which can take much longer to recover.
I know, not EVERYONE has permanent damage after their first cycle. But with the significant lack of education in the market and the easy potential for abuse, you have to assume that MOST PEOPLE wouldn't properly self-administer steroids. Imagine "gym buddy" level of education about steroids and then reduce it about 2000% - that's how most of the population would use steroids if they were legal. Why? Because you don't have to have a knowledgeable contact to get steroids who you can bounce questions off of.
Just be happy you can get it as a prescription and that Western Union/Moneygram exist.
Out of every illegal drug, steroids probably have the highest potential of causing long-term damage with the smallest amount of use. You can use cocaine, heroin, even meth for a long time and the body can fairly rapidly recover. Shit, heroin addicts often have less cases of heart disease and other problems. Meth is a close second. The body is great at healing itself - but steroids are the only one that permanently f's your hormones which can take much longer to recover.
I know, not EVERYONE has permanent damage after their first cycle. But with the significant lack of education in the market and the easy potential for abuse, you have to assume that MOST PEOPLE wouldn't properly self-administer steroids. Imagine "gym buddy" level of education about steroids and then reduce it about 2000% - that's how most of the population would use steroids if they were legal. Why? Because you don't have to have a knowledgeable contact to get steroids who you can bounce questions off of.
Just be happy you can get it as a prescription and that Western Union/Moneygram exist.
joonp
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First they will never b legalized. Too many people have been sold on the idea that they r dangerous and give an unfair advantage to people. Until the general publics mind set can b changed from this no repeal of the law will ever take place. Much like the drug laws theyve spent so much money and propaganda on demonizing it that to change face would b an utter disgrace. Second much like many other things legal and illegal there are always the idiots who cant handle nor take the time to realize what exactly they r putting into their bodies until its too late and those horror stories will b the poster child of steroids. They should keep them illegal to sell but legal to have under certain amounts. I believe this is how it is in england....
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joonp
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To put in the hands of drs is a problem as well. Ive worked in the pharmacy business and drs r all in the drug companies pockets. Look at all the drs being busted for running basically open air drug markets for rx drugs. Half of america is on some form of anti anxiety, add, or other various drug. Drs prescribe drugs like its candy
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[Club_Soda]Reality
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I think AAS and HgH should be legal. Its completely legal for a man to go to a plastic surgeon and get a sex change operation. People go, as is their prerogative, and pay outrageous sums of money get their faces carved up. Why shouldn't we peasants be allowed to make a body decision which is way less serious than voluntary dismemberment? The government should tell no one what to do with their body. The end.
Think about it, the only reason those who cycle look so good compared to the rest of the population is because they are of the few who use AAS. If they became legal, everyone would be using them, and we would all of the sudden be average. I prefer taking a bit of risk and being rewarded for it.
mountainsidefitness
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If you go an ANY gym and see guys "chalking up" grunting and yelling, getting ready for their set; well that is one thing but given Dianabol to people like a drink tab? (It's already available via Dr. scripts) and elsewhere, not like it is any tougher to find gear, than weed? Sooo, Ummm No! I have been a victim of roid road rage twice and a guy followed into a gas station where I thought I was safe (he tried to literally run me into a building and off the road 10plus times for NO reason). I wasn't drivig 15mph over?? Just raging! So he got out of his car and his face was bright red and "stay-puffed" puffy; tons of water retention and he was the size of a water buffalo! So obviously he was out of his mind BUT I should mention, turned out to be only 23, So could have been first time and just like your first 4 beers, you don't know how to handle it. Anyways, he got out of his F-350 at 11:00pm, ran up to my door and started kicking it HARD! Once he saw I was 5'3, he cursed and peeled out, well got his plate and 2 people followed him for me and he was arrested. What if I was another man on a cycle with a gun and 24? someone could have been shot and killed very easily! So my long answer is NO! Guys just need to LEARN how to manage to "sides" and you have to either be trained or learn them because if you are bulking, you are going to get MAD about stupid crap..., period!
mountainsidefitness
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working!!??
Legal and cheap, So we all can be happy. 
I think the REAL reason why the GOV does not want us "The People" to have good quality roids is that we would live longer and overpopulate..
And with more and better research I'm pretty sure Roids can be the building blocks to the fountain of youth!!
I think the REAL reason why the GOV does not want us "The People" to have good quality roids is that we would live longer and overpopulate..
And with more and better research I'm pretty sure Roids can be the building blocks to the fountain of youth!!
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Legal and cheap, So we all can be happy.
I think the REAL reason why the GOV does not want us "The People" to have good quality roids is that we would live longer and overpopulate..
And with more and better research I'm pretty sure Roids can be the building blocks to the fountain of youth!!
The problem is having underaged kids easily getting the stuff. That is not a good idea at all.
