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Your thoughts and Experiences on TREN??

best AAS ive ever used. with that said, worst sides ive ever ever had. was shut down for a LONG time. totally demolished my libido for almost 2yrs. went from doctor to doctor, endo to endo...luckily it came back somewhat but like radar said, its poison.
 
shut down for 2 years? i believe that.

any others honestly recover from tren? and dont say "i felt better a month later"... hard evidence of blood results would be helpful.

I'm 6 months from deca cycle and STILL am not recovered. a lot of people think they are recovered when they are not. it can take 3 full weeks for the esthers to be out of your body and you might think you are recovered, or you could feel recovered from hcg and you really aren't
 
Love it .... Gave me the over juiced look lol

Brad.
 
Trenbolone acetate is an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid which is derived from the the steroid nandrolone. It’s activity however is quite different to the point that direct comparisons between the two are difficult to make.


Trenbolone acetate has been said to be a non estrogenic steroid
but the same people who say this will tell you that you must have a high level of estrogen in order for progesterone to cause gyno.... Yet Many people who have ran tren on its own have experienced gyno from the compound. I am to the thinking that this dispels the the notion that you must have high levels of estrogen to cause gyno... In fact all that is needed is any estrogen at all or even a synthetic estrogen. Even a androgen of anykind along with high progesterone can cause gyno... A subject I have studies for a very long time.

Anyway this leads me to the next subject. That of using tren alone with out test. Can it be done? Bet your ass it can. Anything can be done but that does not mean its the best choice. Running some test with it is the best choice but that does not mean you are a complete freak for thinking of running it solo. Just means you need better planing. Running a good drug or combo of drugs that will lower estrogen and progesterone as well as a Strong sex drive increasing compound and you are fine ( for the most part)....

However running it with test still remains the best way to run tren. Tren is considerably both more anabolic and androgenic than its parent nandrolone on a milligram for milligram basis. Trenbolone acetate was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids. Trenbolone acetate is a drug of veterinary medicine which is used almost exclusively to increase the rate of weight gain and improve feed efficiency of cattle shortly before slaughter.

Lets think about this.,.. This drug is a crude drug that was made with nothing else in mind but to put weight on a cow and then kill the fucker. Nothing else was taken into consideration. So the "long life and health" of the subject taking the drug was not taken into consideration.

Tren is so powerful that even the small traces of tren that are in todays cattle has had a profound effects on the people around us.. Ever wounder why little girls at 10 of double D's now? Tren and growth Hormones that is how!!

Trenbolone is considered to be one of the strongest steroids available today. It is roughly three times more anabolic than testosterone and a very potent androgen as well. Users of Trenbolone often report incredible gains in strength and solid muscle mass. The gains seen off of this steroid are lean, quality muscle mass. The high amounts of androgen also work to bring about a defined “ripped” look to the user’s muscles. Although it doesn’t convert to estrogen, trenbolone being a nandrolone derivative does act on the progesterone receptor and can cause related side effects because of this trait. Progesterone side effects are similar to those of estrogenic side effects and can include things such as bloat and gyncomestia . Because of this, users of trenbolone might want to consider running an agent such as bromocripten or cabasear in order to combat possible progesterone related side effects. Trenbolone is a versatile steroid and can be incorporated well into both bulking and cutting cycles. Users looking to bulk may choose to stack Trenbolone acetate with other steroids such as testosterone and an oral such as dianabol. Users looking to run a cutting cycle will often look to stack trenbolone with other steroids such as winstrol and masteron. It is important to note that trenbolone will shut down the body’s natural testosterone production very quickly, thus making a post cycle therapy protocol essential upon the discontinuance of the drug. Users often choose to run testosterone for a couple of weeks after the trenbolone in order to clear the receptors of the compound and make recovery a little easier to accomplish. The high androgenic activity of trenbolone means that androgen related side effects are very common with this drug. These side effects can include things such as oily skin, acne, increased growth of facial and body hair.


Many tren users experience the dreaded tren cough eventually. I do believe some are more prone to the cough than others. speculation as to the catalyst of the tren cough and equal speculation to the validity of each argument. Many people say it’s the solvent, benzyl alcohol, but because “BA” is used in numerous other injectables as a solvent with no symptomatic cough I doubt this theory. I find it more likely that it is an issue directly related to trenbolone acetate, or possibly a combination of the solvent and trenbolone. Or perhaps there is a much less bro-ology explanation of its cause.

It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction. Prostalglandins = Short-lived, hormone-like chemicals that regulate cellular activities on a moment-to-moment basis and are produced in most tissues of the body. Involved in the "Activation of the inflammatory response, production of pain, and fever"..


The typical dosage for men taking trenbolone is 300-600mg a week. Because of the fast acting nature of the acetate ester, users inject Trenbolone acetate either every day or every other day. Users of this drug often limit cycles to 6-8 weeks in order to prevent any natural HPTA recovery issues. Women are urged to stay away from trenbolone, as the strong androgenic properties of this drug almost guarantee masculizing side effects will occur.


Tren has been shows to lower Insulin sensitivity as well as thyroid activity. Yes even though tren helps with fat lose and cutting cycles it does so through other mechanisms. Tren users would be wise to Use ether drugs like t-3 well on tren or a good supplements combo... Need2slin and Zip would be the perfect combo

Last but not least at the end of the day tren NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED.
 
Trenbolone acetate is an injectable anabolic/androgenic steroid which is derived from the the steroid nandrolone. It’s activity however is quite different to the point that direct comparisons between the two are difficult to make.


Trenbolone acetate has been said to be a non estrogenic steroid
but the same people who say this will tell you that you must have a high level of estrogen in order for progesterone to cause gyno.... Yet Many people who have ran tren on its own have experienced gyno from the compound. I am to the thinking that this dispels the the notion that you must have high levels of estrogen to cause gyno... In fact all that is needed is any estrogen at all or even a synthetic estrogen. Even a androgen of anykind along with high progesterone can cause gyno... A subject I have studies for a very long time.

Anyway this leads me to the next subject. That of using tren alone with out test. Can it be done? Bet your ass it can. Anything can be done but that does not mean its the best choice. Running some test with it is the best choice but that does not mean you are a complete freak for thinking of running it solo. Just means you need better planing. Running a good drug or combo of drugs that will lower estrogen and progesterone as well as a Strong sex drive increasing compound and you are fine ( for the most part)....

However running it with test still remains the best way to run tren. Tren is considerably both more anabolic and androgenic than its parent nandrolone on a milligram for milligram basis. Trenbolone acetate was first extensively studied in 1967, described during a series of studies of experiments into synthetic steroids. Trenbolone acetate is a drug of veterinary medicine which is used almost exclusively to increase the rate of weight gain and improve feed efficiency of cattle shortly before slaughter.

Lets think about this.,.. This drug is a crude drug that was made with nothing else in mind but to put weight on a cow and then kill the fucker. Nothing else was taken into consideration. So the "long life and health" of the subject taking the drug was not taken into consideration.

Tren is so powerful that even the small traces of tren that are in todays cattle has had a profound effects on the people around us.. Ever wounder why little girls at 10 of double D's now? Tren and growth Hormones that is how!!

Trenbolone is considered to be one of the strongest steroids available today. It is roughly three times more anabolic than testosterone and a very potent androgen as well. Users of Trenbolone often report incredible gains in strength and solid muscle mass. The gains seen off of this steroid are lean, quality muscle mass. The high amounts of androgen also work to bring about a defined “ripped” look to the user’s muscles. Although it doesn’t convert to estrogen, trenbolone being a nandrolone derivative does act on the progesterone receptor and can cause related side effects because of this trait. Progesterone side effects are similar to those of estrogenic side effects and can include things such as bloat and gyncomestia . Because of this, users of trenbolone might want to consider running an agent such as bromocripten or cabasear in order to combat possible progesterone related side effects. Trenbolone is a versatile steroid and can be incorporated well into both bulking and cutting cycles. Users looking to bulk may choose to stack Trenbolone acetate with other steroids such as testosterone and an oral such as dianabol. Users looking to run a cutting cycle will often look to stack trenbolone with other steroids such as winstrol and masteron. It is important to note that trenbolone will shut down the body’s natural testosterone production very quickly, thus making a post cycle therapy protocol essential upon the discontinuance of the drug. Users often choose to run testosterone for a couple of weeks after the trenbolone in order to clear the receptors of the compound and make recovery a little easier to accomplish. The high androgenic activity of trenbolone means that androgen related side effects are very common with this drug. These side effects can include things such as oily skin, acne, increased growth of facial and body hair.


Many tren users experience the dreaded tren cough eventually. I do believe some are more prone to the cough than others. speculation as to the catalyst of the tren cough and equal speculation to the validity of each argument. Many people say it’s the solvent, benzyl alcohol, but because “BA” is used in numerous other injectables as a solvent with no symptomatic cough I doubt this theory. I find it more likely that it is an issue directly related to trenbolone acetate, or possibly a combination of the solvent and trenbolone. Or perhaps there is a much less bro-ology explanation of its cause.

It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction. Prostalglandins = Short-lived, hormone-like chemicals that regulate cellular activities on a moment-to-moment basis and are produced in most tissues of the body. Involved in the "Activation of the inflammatory response, production of pain, and fever"..


The typical dosage for men taking trenbolone is 300-600mg a week. Because of the fast acting nature of the acetate ester, users inject Trenbolone acetate either every day or every other day. Users of this drug often limit cycles to 6-8 weeks in order to prevent any natural HPTA recovery issues. Women are urged to stay away from trenbolone, as the strong androgenic properties of this drug almost guarantee masculizing side effects will occur.


Tren has been shows to lower Insulin sensitivity as well as thyroid activity. Yes even though tren helps with fat lose and cutting cycles it does so through other mechanisms. Tren users would be wise to Use ether drugs like t-3 well on tren or a good supplements combo... Need2slin and Zip would be the perfect combo

Last but not least at the end of the day tren NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED.


Thank Needto. great info!
and thanks every1 for ther input aswell.
 
why i ask is because im comeing up to my 6weeks into a Suss250, Test Prop, and Decca cycle i ran out of decca and im gettn my hands on some Tren Ace i think it is Ace...

so i was planning on runnung the last 4weeks of my cycle like this..

Suss250- 250mg 2x aweek.
Test prop- 1ml 3x aweek
Tren- 1ml or 0.75ml 3x aweek

keep in mind im useN..

HcGenerate on and off cycle,
unleashed and poast cycle,
N2guard.
Forma-Stanzol.
i got some arimidex and nolvadex on hand.

so what would u guys reccomend.???
 
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