Immigration laws, enforcement...

[b0und]

Have you joined the minutemen yet razor?

I remember you posting some links to some interesting forums when that whole bus fight video thing happened.

As for illegal immigrants, I'm glad my country is a big island and much harder to get to, so we get far fewer of those down here. Sucks for you, America!






b0und (sorry)

 

[EnderJE]

and why this thread is not in the politics forum??

Anyways, the first "immigrants" who came here, came to a land that was no country. There were no rules or regulations. There were no borders. Even if for one second we look at it as an act of hostility, to come here and take other's land by force, indians tried to defend themselves, but lost. They were not good enough. That was not the situation anyways. But using that as an argument to justify illegal aliens invading the country, is totally cheap. If you're serious about it, and would like to compare it with those old days, ok, in that case, tell your friends from guatemala to declare war against the united states and try to take this land. Let the best win. Only thing i can tell you, i would be selling popcorn in the front line for american troops.

Immigration does not needs reform. We do not need to make it easier to come here. We already have thousands of humans legally immigrating here every year. Every single rule and law for immigration is already written. The only problem we have, is the federal government no enforcing the laws.

+ 1

 

[javaguru]

ololll traz is muslim bro.
but that being said, notice how muslims that migrate to n.america don't behave like in france/britain.
muslim pop here is pretty chill...cause we let them be, they are allowed to do their thing and everyone is happy.
in france they burn the flag and loot and riot...britian appears to be a breeding ground for extremism. doesn't happen here.
muslims adapt and assimilate in n.america
what makes canada and the usa great, under legal circumstances, we generaly welcome diversity and promote a "do wtf you want" culture

Domestic extremism/terrorism has been on the rise with our generally peaceful Muslim brothers/sisters. Look at the arrests just this year for Muslim extremists born in the United States....Jihad Jane and her ilk.

 

[ledhead]

ololll traz is muslim bro.
but that being said, notice how muslims that migrate to n.america don't behave like in france/britain.
muslim pop here is pretty chill...cause we let them be, they are allowed to do their thing and everyone is happy.
in france they burn the flag and loot and riot...britian appears to be a breeding ground for extremism. doesn't happen here.
muslims adapt and assimilate in n.america
what makes canada and the usa great, under legal circumstances, we generaly welcome diversity and promote a "do wtf you want" culture

Dude where under the sun do you get your information? you are totally discombobulated!

The Attorney General's office- said there are numerous Jihad terror training camps all
over the US. Training people to fire AK-47s, rocket launchers, mortars, and explosives.

The Fuqua members (extrem islamists) in the US have been suspected of fraud against
various govermental entitlement programs in effort to financially support their activities.
They been investigated for murder, arson, firebombing all over the US.

2003 the FBI shut one of these camps down in Virginia.

You are being willfully naive if you think these people are just chilling over here.
Their "Wahabists" they hate what they call infidels.

Islam is not a peaceful faith!

No, they don't assimilate here, they bring their mantra, and culture right with them.

 

[Strongbow]

Dude where under the sun do you get your information? you are totally discombobulated!

The Attorney General's office- said there are numerous Jihad terror training camps all
over the US. Training people to fire AK-47s, rocket launchers, mortars, and explosives.

The Fuqua members (extrem islamists) in the US have been suspected of fraud against
various govermental entitlement programs in effort to financially support their activities.
They been investigated for murder, arson, firebombing all over the US.

2003 the FBI shut one of these camps down in Virginia.

You are being willfully naive if you think these people are just chilling over here.
Their "Wahabists" they hate what they call infidels.

Islam is not a peaceful faith!

No, they don't assimilate here, they bring their mantra, and culture right with them.

I have been around more Muslims than prolly any of you guys. Islam is not a viloent faith, and there are many practicing Muslims, who do not wish to be associated with there extreme bruthas, who bomb shit and kill people in the name of Islam. Radicals use various excuses to be violent and kill in the name of whatever, not only Islam, but look at teh Klan. The klan use to kill in the name of Christanity, which is bull shit, nobody is saying Christianity is a violent religion. Lots of oppressed people in Iraq and Afgan that will tell you if this is Islam, then fuck Islam, we want no part, but truth be known Islam does not teach violence.

 

[ledhead]

I have been around more Muslims than prolly any of you guys. Islam is not a viloent faith, and there are many practicing Muslims, who do not wish to be associated with there extreme bruthas, who bomb shit and kill people in the name of Islam. Radicals use various excuses to be violent and kill in the name of whatever, not only Islam, but look at teh Klan. The klan use to kill in the name of Christanity, which is bull shit, nobody is saying Christianity is a violent religion. Lots of oppressed people in Iraq and Afgan that will tell you if this is Islam, then fuck Islam, we want no part, but truth be known Islam does not teach violence.

Read the Koran. The prophet Mohammed was a blood thirsty man, he had an harem, he
had a nine year old wife, he liked little girls.

The koran is full of hate towards the infidels "eliminate them".

Goes back around our countries independance. Libya was pirating our ships.
Thomas Jefferson went over there to use diplomacy with king of libya, and it didn't work.

The king of Libya read a verse out of the Koran and said " your an infidel, I"m allowed
to kill you". So Jefferson sent the marines over and the stomped a mud-hole in their ass.

Bro, don't buy into the hype Islam is not a peaceful faith. Read the Koran!

 

[Strongbow]

Read the Koran. The prophet Mohammed was a blood thirsty man, he had an harem, he
had a nine year old wife, he liked little girls.

The koran is full of hate towards the infidels "eliminate them".

Goes back around our countries independance. Libya was pirating our ships.
Thomas Jefferson went over there to use diplomacy with king of libya, and it didn't work.

The king of Libya read a verse out of the Koran and said " your an infidel, I"m allowed
to kill you". So Jefferson sent the marines over and the stomped a mud-hole in their ass.

Bro, don't buy into the hype Islam is not a peaceful faith. Read the Koran!

I must say I have never read the Koran, and it seems as thou you have. I am not fooled by any of these extremist bro. I just know what I have seen first hand with these people. But I am all for kicking the ass end out of their pants bro. I have been there and seen them scurry like cock roaches, at the fear of the greatest military power in the world. I have also seen the faces of women and children who have been opressed and the joy in their eyes when they see that someone has come to help.

 

[ledhead]

I must say I have never read the Koran, and it seems as thou you have. I am not fooled by any of these extremist bro. I just know what I have seen first hand with these people. But I am all for kicking the ass end out of their pants bro. I have been there and seen them scurry like cock roaches, at the fear of the greatest military power in the world. I have also seen the faces of women and children who have been opressed and the joy in their eyes when they see that someone has come to help.

That's why with the aid of God and the greatest military in the world we will
overcome radical islamists.

 

[Strongbow]

That's why with the aid of God and the greatest military in the world we will
overcome radical islamists.

+1 my friend.

 

[SpyWizard]

Thats not exactly what I said. I just said I think its hypocritical for anyone that lives in the US to claim that someone else is an immigrant and that they are not. 500 years ago we committed the worst act of genocide in the history of the world, we killed millions and took the land for our own. You are just as much an immigrant as the guy from guatemala sitting on the bus next to you.

the difference is I've contributed to this nation from birth.. the guy that just got here rejects my values, refuses to contribute but expects me to pay to feed him, his wife and kids, provide for dental, and educate them, all at the same time that they want to continue to say "I don't want to be american, i just want the stuff" ..

Immigration is for those that have value, who contribute or seeking persecution from their own countries...

I don't have self hate for accomplishments or short failings of those that came before me, o guilt nor desire to make up for those that preceded me.. so no, hypocrisy at all.