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waiting for it to come in.
i'm trading in my truck... is it strange that I think i'm going to cry when i hand over the keys?

I've had it for 6 years and it's been good to me. But it's time to get something newer, that gets better gas mileage, while it's still worth a tradein.

i feel like i'm betraying my truck.
 
Smurfy said:
pics or it didnt happen

also, what kind of deal did Arabian get you? Did he make all your dreams come true?
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LOL... yes. yes he did.

but then i woke up.


pick, I did not get a yaris, and the type of vehicle I got doesn't matter. It's cute and little and i like it.
 
Can I share a religious story that parallels the Moral and spiritual and ideological crisis your experiencing with your Autovaunmobiles?
 
This is one of my most recent car purchases... I owned it in the late 90s, and was really sorry I sold it. I kept in touch with the buyer, and I was bugging the guy for it for over a year to sell it back to me. Got it finally in November. My friends area all very impressed and jealous. No, it's not a joke!

Dying of curiosity yet, of why a man would want to have this '84 Toyota Corolla hatchback with rust, and 200,000 miles plus, when he has a new Chevy 4x4 Diesel, and other cool cars, trucks & motorcycles? I'll tell when we find out what the topic car is! There is a reason, and it embarrasses all Hybrid owners.

Charles
 
kx250rider said:
This is one of my most recent car purchases... I owned it in the late 90s, and was really sorry I sold it. I kept in touch with the buyer, and I was bugging the guy for it for over a year to sell it back to me. Got it finally in November. My friends area all very impressed and jealous. No, it's not a joke!

Dying of curiosity yet, of why a man would want to have this '84 Toyota Corolla hatchback with rust, and 200,000 miles plus, when he has a new Chevy 4x4 Diesel, and other cool cars, trucks & motorcycles? I'll tell when we find out what the topic car is! There is a reason, and it embarrasses all Hybrid owners.

Charles
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it gets insane MPG?


I have a 93 Camry with 100k that i use for a commuter car and it gets better MPG than almost anything I've seen.
 
redshirt27se said:
it gets insane MPG?


I have a 93 Camry with 100k that i use for a commuter car and it gets better MPG than almost anything I've seen.
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You're on the right track, but there's another detail. Let's see if there's anyone on this board who knows what Toyota offered in '84 as a rare option. As a matter of fact, the brochure says 63 mpg, but I got 70 mpg by driving it across the desert and calculating the mileage. A team of students at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, did a really disgusting experiment with this car. It was on Fox TV when they did it.

Charles
 
kx250rider said:
This is one of my most recent car purchases... I owned it in the late 90s, and was really sorry I sold it. I kept in touch with the buyer, and I was bugging the guy for it for over a year to sell it back to me. Got it finally in November. My friends area all very impressed and jealous. No, it's not a joke!

Dying of curiosity yet, of why a man would want to have this '84 Toyota Corolla hatchback with rust, and 200,000 miles plus, when he has a new Chevy 4x4 Diesel, and other cool cars, trucks & motorcycles? I'll tell when we find out what the topic car is! There is a reason, and it embarrasses all Hybrid owners.

Charles
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It's a Diesel?
 
redshirt27se said:
i think it was pick3, maybe someone else, who figured out that the better mpg on diesels makes for a wash when you factor in the increased price of diesel fuel.


i remember it from a car thread a while back.
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The big obstacle to breaking even is the upcharge for the diesel engine option.
 
kx250rider said:
You're on the right track, but there's another detail. Let's see if there's anyone on this board who knows what Toyota offered in '84 as a rare option. As a matter of fact, the brochure says 63 mpg, but I got 70 mpg by driving it across the desert and calculating the mileage. A team of students at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, did a really disgusting experiment with this car. It was on Fox TV when they did it.

Charles
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1984 (California) TOYOTA COROLLA - MPG and Detailed Vehicle Information
 
redshirt27se said:
he said something about a rare option. i'm too lazy too google it, but i'm sure it has some form of alternative energy option
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i googled but found nothing extraordinary. . .'cept for the 61 mpg highway rating (which would be 54 mpg using the 2008 rating method). . .other than that, the only thing of note seemed to be that 1984 was the first year that they started offering front-wheel drive corollas, prior to 1984 they were all rear wheel drive models. . .apparently the rwd's are still pretty popular with drifters.
 
Mr. dB said:
I KNOW you didn't buy a Prius, so I'm gonna guess Ford Escape Hybrid.
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i did not get a prius, no.
and of the 3 vehicles I looked at (well, not 3... more like 7), that wasn't an option, although the honda insight was (very much like the prius).

I also looked at subaru, which my son has (Legacy). I liked them, but... i don't know... nothing about them excited me. ugly outside, boring inside. Still, i would have been happy with one in the winter, but we have a 4WD truck I can drive in the snow at those times.
 
PICK3 said:
the current generation Accord is classified as a large car by the EPA with a combined rating of 24 mpg for a 4 banger auto tranny

pretty average these days for a family sedan
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mine got 32mpg highway. . .my pops is still driving the dang thing and its got about 300,000 miles on it, and it still runs like a friggin' swiss wristwatch. . .i loved that car. . .
 
digimon7068 said:
mine got 32mpg highway. . .my pops is still driving the dang thing and its got about 300,000 miles on it, and it still runs like a friggin' swiss wristwatch. . .i loved that car. . .
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that's pretty impressive!

any special maintenance, e.g. 3k oil changes, synthetic oil, etc ...
 
PICK3 said:
I'm getting either "Honda" or "Hyundai" vibes.

just sayin'
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you can get all the vibes you want.
both are nice- i test drove the hyundai tuscon. Nice car (truck?).

the honda insight was pretty cool- plain inside, and slighly under powered. the gas mileage was great for my super long commute though. That was my second choice. actually, it was sort of my first choice too, but the financing available through honda wasn't great. didn't want to deal with going through my bank, etc.
 
My next car will be a domestic.

Teh Yaris is > 3 years old with only 17k miles.

My only motivation to replace it is to get a new car warranty.
 
PICK3 said:
My next car will be a domestic.

Teh Yaris is > 3 years old with only 17k miles.

My only motivation to replace it is to get a new car warranty.
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My current vehicle needed a few repairs, which would be a little costly (need a new bearing or something, and new tires). it still had some value, although it wouldn't have much if i had waited a few more years. It was also in an accident- not bad, but I was rear ended. the damage was minimal, but it showed up on the carfax.

I wanted:
1. something safe.
2. handles well on the road.
3. gets good gas mileage (which often contradicts #2, since 4wd vehicles don't usually get good gas mileage).
4. something i LIKED. that was sort of important, because I don't care if a car looks strange or stupid, or whatever...if i LIKE it, that's all that matters.

like, the "cube" (i don't know who makes it)... i like those.
(not what I got).
oh, and half my family is over 6' tall... i need headroom, and a hatchback for the dogs.
 
stilleto said:
My current vehicle needed a few repairs, which would be a little costly (need a new bearing or something, and new tires). it still had some value, although it wouldn't have much if i had waited a few more years. It was also in an accident- not bad, but I was rear ended. the damage was minimal, but it showed up on the carfax.

I wanted:
1. something safe.
2. handles well on the road.
3. gets good gas mileage (which often contradicts #2, since 4wd vehicles don't usually get good gas mileage).
4. something i LIKED. that was sort of important, because I don't care if a car looks strange or stupid, or whatever...if i LIKE it, that's all that matters.

like, the "cube" (i don't know who makes it)... i like those.
(not what I got).
oh, and half my family is over 6' tall... i need headroom, and a hatchback for the dogs.
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Did you get 4WD or AWD?
 
PICK3 said:
that's pretty impressive!

any special maintenance, e.g. 3k oil changes, synthetic oil, etc ...
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regular oil changes (did them myself most of the time. . .just used quaker state 5w-30), filter changes, tranny fluid changes. . .the exhaust system was replaced a time or two when it rusted out. . .and i replaced the struts once and the timing belt was replaced at the required interval (two times so far, i think). . .runs like a top, doesn't burn any oil, and the a/c still blows cold air (during the one month that you actually need it in northcentral pa :) ).
 
PICK3 said:
Did you get 4WD or AWD?
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neither.
I got front wheel drive.
I decided a car that handles well with FWD and got good gas mileage AND something I liked would serve me well 10
months out of the year. The times it snows- i'll drive our truck.

the hyundai santa fe or tuscon were definite options too. The warranty was also a big factor for me and hyundai offers a great one.
 
stilleto said:
the hyundai santa fe or tuscon were definite options too. The warranty was also a big factor for me and hyundai offers a great one.
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I know two peeps (one friend/one coworker) that bought new Hyundai's in the last couple of days.

One bought a new Santa Fe and the other the top of the line Genesis Coupe.

Hyundai's (as well as Kia's) are much improved, but it would still be hard for me to purchase a Korean brand.
 
PICK3 said:
I know two peeps (one friend/one coworker) that bought new Hyundai's in the last couple of days.

One bought a new Santa Fe and the other the top of the line Genesis Coupe.

Hyundai's (as well as Kia's) are much improved, but it would still be hard for me to purchase a Korean brand.
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i've heard good things about both, although i think the santa fe is the better version of the kia sportage. or maybe it's the same, but the kia is cheaper, I don't know.

I posted it here years ago, but I used to have a dodge durango. Dodge is considered a great brand, by many people, but I went through 5 engines in one year. all covered under the warranty, but not the lemon law. I had a few other problems too, like discovering that when I put the truck into reverse, it turned off.
nice.
so, i don't care if the car is korean... i just want it to run.
 
digimon7068 said:
regular oil changes (did them myself most of the time. . .just used quaker state 5w-30), filter changes, tranny fluid changes. . .the exhaust system was replaced a time or two when it rusted out. . .and i replaced the struts once and the timing belt was replaced at the required interval (two times so far, i think). . .runs like a top, doesn't burn any oil, and the a/c still blows cold air (during the one month that you actually need it in northcentral pa :) ).
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I think the older "J" VIN number Accords would be a best bet for longetivity in the last few decades, maybe only nosed out by the 1981-1995 4 banger Toyota pickups (22R/22R-E) primarly because the truck is RWD and has a timing chain.

I read on some auto forum that older Mercedes diesels would probably outlast everything on the road.

As far as domestics Crown Vics/Grand Marquis that taxis/cops regularly exceed 200k miles would be my bet (also due to RWD).
 
PICK3 said:
I think the older "J" VIN number Accords would be a best bet for longetivity in the last few decades, maybe only nosed out by the 1981-1995 4 banger Toyota pickups (22R/22R-E) primarly because the truck is RWD and has a timing chain.

I read on some auto forum that older Mercedes diesels would probably outlast everything on the road.

As far as domestics Crown Vics/Grand Marquis that taxis/cops regularly exceed 200k miles would be my bet (also due to RWD).
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yeah the interceptors that the taxi doodes buy off the cops last forever
 
I don't know if anyone has said it yet..

but YES!!! that is incredibly strange and a bit wierd that you're going to cry when handing over your keys!!

you however are still awesome!
 
stilleto said:
no, not that either.
i'll give out only this: I ended up not buying a hybrid, just a car that gets good gas mileage.
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Okay, it's not a hybrid, FWD, with room for at least a couple of six-footers. It's a hatchback and it's not a Honda.

Lemme see, it's not a Chevy Cobalt, not a Focus, not a Toyota, I'm guessing Nissan Versa.
 
chris302001 said:
holy crap, 5 engines!!!!!
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yeah, it was a while ago. my kids were in grade school and I drove them to school, and to my job 2 miles away. that's it. They replaced the first engine, i drove it away and heard a ticking sound. Went to my mechanic and he said, "the engine is bad". Went back to the dealer, and they took it back.

The next one lasted about a week.

Took it back and they gave me a rental.

2 weeks later, they called and said they replaced my engine, took it for a test drive, and broke the engine.

That happened one more time before someone from Dodge corporate came to do the work. in that time, the ball joints went, i couldn't put it in reverse, and i generally decided I hate dodge.
 
stilleto said:
yeah, it was a while ago. my kids were in grade school and I drove them to school, and to my job 2 miles away. that's it. They replaced the first engine, i drove it away and heard a ticking sound. Went to my mechanic and he said, "the engine is bad". Went back to the dealer, and they took it back.

The next one lasted about a week.

Took it back and they gave me a rental.

2 weeks later, they called and said they replaced my engine, took it for a test drive, and broke the engine.

That happened one more time before someone from Dodge corporate came to do the work. in that time, the ball joints went, i couldn't put it in reverse, and i generally decided I hate dodge.
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i had a dream last night that you bought a ford focus
 
Mr. dB said:
It's a Diesel?
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BINGO!

They built 110 of them to CA emissions specs for a test-marketing program, as well as 100-and some Camry turbo-Diesels that year, and pickups. It's the CE82 model, which is front wheel drive. The only mention of it in the brochure is a tiny inset on one page. They did make Diesel Corollas for other states, but those were all 4-door sedans with automatic trans and inferior fuel economy to the CA model. The CA Special was available as 4-door hatchback only, and 5-speed manual only. Remarkably clean too, for an old World War II design mechanical Diesel. The new Diesels are cleaner than gas engines today, which means it's only a political reason (keep oil demand high), that small Diesels are available everywhere in the world at competitive prices, BUT in the USA.

The engine is the 1st generation 1.8 liter with the ridiculously high compression (580 psi when new), which I remember reading comes out to about 28:1 compression ratio! As a result, the engine has a very distinctive sound that no other Diesel has. It sounds like it's going to blow it's head off, but that's the normal sound. (youtube video some time when I get a chance). The compression is so high that you can start it in virtually any weather with no glow plug warmup. It always blows the minds of other Diesel guys, when I show them one of those Toyotas with a stone-cold engine, and I disconnect the glow plug relay, and the engine starts up with a bump.

When I had it before, I did my own mpg test by topping it off in Barstow, CA, and driving it across the desert to Bullhead City, AZ, where I re-topped it and did the math. It proved just over 70 mpg! And the Corolla hatchback is bigger than a Prius. It shows how the technology has existed for high mileage for decades, but for one political reason or another, it gets snuffed every time. The same for today's Smart cars. Kind of dumb that the USA is the only place you're forced to be burdened with a gasoline motor, which gets terrible mileage for the size of the car. The turbo-Diesel version, sold in every other country in the world, gets 100mpg plus, depending on how much smog controls are imposed.

As for the disgusting experiement: The kids at Cal Poly got a volunteer who was up for liposuction, and they processed the human fat into biodiesel, and drove that car from the Cal Poly San Luis Obispo campus to the Pomona campus; about 275 miles. It was shown on the local NBC TV channel, a few years ago.

Charles
 
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She did say it has a hatchback, right? Aveo is a good guess then, it looks tall enough to accomodate some 6-footers.
 
steeltoe, you are in a position of power. i think you should tell us what kind you got, and the first person to make a comment you don't approve. you ban em!!!

it's a slug bug huh?
 
Mr. dB said:
Why so coy? Is it embarrassing?
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not to me. It's a new car... that can never be embarassing. (well i guess if i bought a smart car, but even those are cool in their own way.

here's why I would rather not say... lets say, i got a porsche cayenne. someone is going to tell me i overpaid, or i'm showing off, or I overpaid for a piece of crap and now i'm showing off.

or, lets say i bought a suzuki sx4. Someone is going to tell me what a piece of shit little box i bought and tell me what i should have gotten instead.

So, what if i just say that it seats 4-5 comfortably, i believe it's been getting around 30 miles per gallon for me, has a 5 star safety rating and good write ups on edmunds and consumer reports. I got the top of the line model, which came with blue tooth, sunroof, nice tires (i don't know anything about tires), great stereo, satelite radio, cruise control, interior mood lighting, great looking upholstery, rear fold down seats, and a few other things, plus it came in a really awesome green?
 
stilleto said:
not to me. It's a new car... that can never be embarassing. (well i guess if i bought a smart car, but even those are cool in their own way.

here's why I would rather not say... lets say, i got a porsche cayenne. someone is going to tell me i overpaid, or i'm showing off, or I overpaid for a piece of crap and now i'm showing off.

or, lets say i bought a suzuki sx4. Someone is going to tell me what a piece of shit little box i bought and tell me what i should have gotten instead.

So, what if i just say that it seats 4-5 comfortably, i believe it's been getting around 30 miles per gallon for me, has a 5 star safety rating and good write ups on edmunds and consumer reports. I got the top of the line model, which came with blue tooth, sunroof, nice tires (i don't know anything about tires), great stereo, satelite radio, cruise control, interior mood lighting, great looking upholstery, rear fold down seats, and a few other things, plus it came in a really awesome green?
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i wouldn't talk smack on you. . .i have a suburban with almost 100,000 on it (thinking about rolling that one into something new on account of it's the wife's and she has to haul all the children's around), an xterra with over 100,000 on it (runs great, no rust, ain't costing me anything, gonna drive it till the wheels fall off) and a 1985 jeep cj7 that i rebuilt from the ground up. . .i think all cars are cool. . .there are lots of countries in the world where having a car, any car, is still a "privilege", rather than a "right" like it is here. . .yeah. . .i know. . .but it sure as hell seems that way, no??
 
digimon7068 said:
i wouldn't talk smack on you. . .i have a suburban with almost 100,000 on it (thinking about rolling that one into something new on account of it's the wife's and she has to haul all the children's around), an xterra with over 100,000 on it (runs great, no rust, ain't costing me anything, gonna drive it till the wheels fall off) and a 1985 jeep cj7 that i rebuilt from the ground up. . .i think all cars are cool. . .there are lots of countries in the world where having a car, any car, is still a "privilege", rather than a "right" like it is here. . .yeah. . .i know. . .but it sure as hell seems that way, no??
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it does. i debated about which car to get for a long time ( revealed it in post 90) because as much as I want a nice car, it's sole (ha) purpose is to get me to work reliably and comfortably and safely, so do i justify spending an extra few hundred a month for one with a designer name? no. I can't. i don't care about that. I just wanted one that did those three things, and one that I liked... if that turned out to be a VW bug, I would have gotten that.

My neighbor actually helped me decide... they live in a MANSION. it's on 23 acres. heated driveway, heated pool, with a poolhouse the size of my home. 6 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms.
he drives a pickup and she drives... I don't know, some little yellow car. Both are nice, but not the mercedes or porsche I know they could afford. I told her the 5 cars I was deciding on and she told me to not think about what kind it was, and to close my eyes and choose which keys I want to pick up to go on a long drive and get that car.
so i did. :)
 
stilleto said:
it does. i debated about which car to get for a long time ( revealed it in post 90) because as much as I want a nice car, it's sole (ha) purpose is to get me to work reliably and comfortably and safely, so do i justify spending an extra few hundred a month for one with a designer name? no. I can't. i don't care about that. I just wanted one that did those three things, and one that I liked... if that turned out to be a VW bug, I would have gotten that.

My neighbor actually helped me decide... they live in a MANSION. it's on 23 acres. heated driveway, heated pool, with a poolhouse the size of my home. 6 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms.
he drives a pickup and she drives... I don't know, some little yellow car. Both are nice, but not the mercedes or porsche I know they could afford. I told her the 5 cars I was deciding on and she told me to not think about what kind it was, and to close my eyes and choose which keys I want to pick up to go on a long drive and get that car.
so i did. :)
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oh. . .that's cool. . .it looks exactly like something that an smart, funny, witty, sexy, artsy-fartsy, asian-jew, with epic boobage ought to be driving. . .have fun :)

oh and, there's a good reason why hyundai and kia have gobbled up market share over the last 10 or 15 years, and it ain't because they're cheap junk. . .their quality-per-dollar ratio is off the charts and they give you a 100,000 mile warranty to prove how serious they are.
 
Hopefully you have better luck with you Kia than my brother has had. I especially hope your dealership/service department is much better than what he has dealt with.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
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Mr. dB said:
Those have been getting good reports, and are probably the best of the small box cars.

BTW, the Suzuki SX4 is pretty cool too. If someone calls that a shit box, they're ignernt. The Kia too.
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true, but this board has never been short of ignorance. :)
I was going to look at the sx4, until i saw one on the road- SO small. I need to fit my whole family in it, and half of us are over 6 feet. the other half of us have 4 legs. lol.
 
Scotsman said:
Hopefully you have better luck with you Kia than my brother has had. I especially hope your dealership/service department is much better than what he has dealt with.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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did he buy it new?
mine came with a 10 year/100k mile warranty and 5 year road side assistance. That scored a few points with me. My dealership is also a subaru dealership, and they said that if I ever have trouble other than standard maintenance, they will give me a loaner/rental.

Oh, my whole family also gets free oil changes for life. they gave me some gold card for it. we just pay for the filter.
 
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