should i go all out in my first cycle

[burnthiscorpse]

250mg of test for 10 weeks is a waste of time.

It was my first cycle 12 years ago and I made some pretty drastic body composition changes with it.

 

[Nelson Montana]

250mg of test for 10 weeks is a waste of time.

Depends. For a young guy who's doing his first cycle, it can be pretty effective, though I usually recommend a 6 weeker for a novice.

I have an older client I'm working with right now (40) doing his first cycle and he's on just 250 mgs of test and 300 mgs of Primo a week. 4 weeks in, he's up 15 pounds, vascular, hard and dry as a bone. You can't tell him it's waste of time, he's lovin' the results too much!

 

[joe d]

1-10 400mg test e ew
1-6 40mg dbol ed
adex .5mg eod
cycle support as directed

pct start 1wk after last inject
wk 1-2 40mg nolva ed
wk 3-4 20mg nolva ed
wk 1-4 pp trs
wk 1-4 unleashed and post cycle

 

[marcu_s]

pct start 1wk after last inject
wk 1-2 40mg ed
wk 3-4 20mg ed
wk 1-4 pp trs
wk 1-4 unleashed and post cycle[/QUOTE

maybe youre a bit tired, u forgot the hcg, and 40 mgs of what, nolva maybe

 

[Para_Shoot]

250mg of test for 10 weeks is a waste of time.

TOTALLY UNTRUE!! I hadn't been in the gym for over 14 years straight and started with ONLY 200mg test prop a week and ONLY 200mg DECA a week and totally transformed my body. A gram a week for first cycle is REDICULOUS.

 

[mr.nitro]

TOTALLY UNTRUE!! I hadn't been in the gym for over 14 years

theres your problem!

hell a protien shake would probley do wonders for you too. but when you have been trainging for years, and got a decent build, sometimes a little cycle dosen't do more than add a little boost. I don't want a little bost, i want a huge bang.

I think 500mg test for 12 weeks with 300 mg deca for 10 weeks is awesome, and not what I consider overkill. ditch the dbol. I never got shit for results with it. just a lot of bloating.

thats just me. if you want to dick around with underdosed half cycles, go ahead. to me thats like taking a half asprin for a headache. ya it may work. but why bother?

 

[OMEGA]

NO you should NOT

Test E or Cyp or Sus ONLY for first cycle

around 350- 500 mgs a week with light AI is best ( 10 weeeks MAX)

 

[Para_Shoot]

theres your problem!

hell a protien shake would probley do wonders for you too. but when you have been trainging for years, and got a decent build, sometimes a little cycle dosen't do more than add a little boost. I don't want a little bost, i want a huge bang.

I think 500mg test for 12 weeks with 300 mg deca for 10 weeks is awesome, and not what I consider overkill. ditch the dbol. I never got shit for results with it. just a lot of bloating.

thats just me. if you want to dick around with underdosed half cycles, go ahead. to me thats like taking a half asprin for a headache. ya it may work. but why bother?

Why do you talk about training for years? Remember, the guy who originally asked about this stated it was his FIRST cycle. Honestly, wouldn't you rather have him ease into this with the proper PCT at the end and the proper time off, then do some more reading here and plan his next cycle with whatever he chooses?

 

[mr.nitro]

I guess I don't see the point of doing a crappy cycle just to have to up the dose the next time. which is always the outcome. a cycle should be a cycle, not a learning experience, or a trial run.

if you can make significant gains off a 250mg test only cycle you haven't reached your natural potential and shouldn't be cycling anyway.

 

[big bomber]

seriously 250mg will be plenty..if u dont get any gains and think im full of it, then i will never offer advice again. i agree u should also drop the deca and keep the dbol if u like