Given how many abortion doctors are killed (not that many)...

[musclemom]

But we don't have to suck it up. Using a vote as leverage is always a time-tested tradition. I'm fine with private abortions being exactly that -- private. But now, they are quite the public affair

Vote for leverage = Obama in office and I'm happy, seriously.

Tell you what, I would rather my tax dollars go for low income abortions and education than bombs, you fund bombs and Hum Vees, everyone's happy

 

[javaguru]

He's referred to Tiller's killer as a "loon", "far-right extremist" and someone "with no regard for the rule of law" -- and other similar things.

The key here is to actually watch the show instead of googling what other people say about him.

I was posting about before Tiller was murdered...what O'dumbass called him in his position as talking head over teh past few years.

I watch it all the time...I also watch MSNBC to see what all the extremists are spewing...Olberman is worse than O'really...At least O'really has guests that disagree with him.

I watched O'Dumbass add " You mean Tiller the baby killer" when a right winger used his actual name (he's been mentioning the guy on his program for years). The only reason I knew who he was when his murder was announced on the news is because O'reilly mentioned him constantly. The minute I heard about the murder on the news I knew O'reilly would be taking shit for his hate mongering.

 

[mrplunkey]

Vote for leverage = Obama in office and I'm happy, seriously.

Tell you what, I would rather my tax dollars go for low income abortions and education than bombs, you fund bombs and Hum Vees, everyone's happy

I definitely agree that being forced to buy a bomb gives me (and any other taxpayer) a vote on any and all wars or military actions.

And elections do have consequences. The people who voted for Obama and those against him who failed to mobilize are in the process of getting what they deserve. It's sad the other 45-ish percent people will have to suffer too, but hopefully they at least have a head start preparing for the worst.

 

[Bikini Mod]

The moment taxpayer dollars go to pay for an abortion, you just sold every American the right to vote on the subject. Want to buttress that argument? Argue against federally (or state)-funded abortions.

I totally agree that what someone privately does is none of my business. But if I'm subsidizing any portion of what they are doing, then it becomes my business.

You have a point.

So would you rather your tax dollars go to unlimited welfare, medicare, housing subsidies or birthcontrol and abortions for the people whose mentality is that momma gets a "raise" every time she has a baby?

I could be wrong but since they reformed welfare cutting it off after 5 years and NOT GIVING MORE MONEY if a woman on welfare decides to get pregnant again I am thinking that those peoples' *morality* may have changed.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Kinda funny how you are trolling/baiting with your incessant "India and China" references. Why did you ever introduce that anyway? You are the only one I think... and yeah, the US is great! We are fortunate to be here. Happy July 4th, when it comes up anyway.

I am trolling/baiting by stating FACTS about the rest of the world?

Why did I introduce it "anyway"?

You really can't be that limited.

I think MM's reply was pretty spot on.

 

[mrplunkey]

You have a point.

So would you rather your tax dollars go to unlimited welfare, medicare, housing subsidies or birthcontrol and abortions for the people whose mentality is that momma gets a "raise" every time she has a baby?

I could be wrong but since they reformed welfare cutting it off after 5 years and NOT GIVING MORE MONEY if a woman on welfare decides to get pregnant again I am thinking that those peoples' *morality* may have changed.

Well if you're going to do a cost/benefit analysis of every life on the earth, I know a bunch of retirees that need to be put down because they no longer make economic sense.

 

[redsamurai]

Well if you're going to do a cost/benefit analysis of every life on the earth, I know a bunch of retirees that need to be put down because they no longer make economic sense.

and thankfully people exist who do not devalue human life down to CM ratio's.

 

[mrplunkey]

and thankfully people exist who do not devalue human life down to CM ratio's.

But it appears some people devalue it more on the front end than on the back end.

 

[mrplunkey]

Vote for leverage = Obama in office and I'm happy, seriously.

I have to admit, I do enjoy seeing a "liberated" woman support a guy who went on a butt-kissing tour touting the virtues and nobility of a religion that whips women who have the audacity to show their ankles in public. Who knows, maybe he can bring some of that hope and change here.

 

[musclemom]

I have to admit, I do enjoy seeing a "liberated" woman support a guy who went on a butt-kissing tour touting the virtues and nobility of a religion that whips women who have the audacity to show their ankles in public. Who knows, maybe he can bring some of that hope and change here.

Okay, firstly, there is a big difference between the way a fundamentalist Islamic treats the women in his life versus a "regular" Moslem.

Let Obama kiss the middle easterners asses. Do you really think fundamental Islamic terrorism will ever be conquered from the outside without wholesale slaughter of countless innocent people? I'm talking something that would make Hiroshima look like a birthday party.

I'm personally offended by the Islamic view of women, yes, HOWEVER, the fact remains we need to start treating Middle Easterners with the same level of respect we give to any other nation, because that's the only way a dialogue is going to get started. Once we get a dialogue, then our culture starts to infiltrate them. Those broads get a taste of Cosmo and Vogue and Clinique and Estee Lauder and Michael Kors, Gucci, Fendi, and Prada and you think they're going to KEEP letting those men do that shit?

What did they have before? SAND. Get them a god-damned Body
Works shop on Main Street Saudi Arabia, put in a day spa and a mall, you'll be shocked at how fast those women start taking charge of their lives.

We will never achieve world peace by remaining arrogant and isolationist.

Basic axiom, you want to get respect, you need to give respect, and we are at a point where a whole lot of places no longer respect the United States.

Oh, and I'm thrilled to see someone other than a rich old white dude in the chair. Black, yellow, red, female, I don't care, just SOMEONE other than another narrow minded and short sighted white man.