So I'm thinking about starting a CKD, i need some meal ideas.

[OneBreath]

holy lord. hmm. well, thats what i was afraid of. but i just googled some stuff, and it mostly said moonshine has no carbs. i dont know. not i deal for the first day after carb up, although id be shocked if i went over 20 carbs for the whole day. grrr.

k, just entered what i had to eat yesterday, and including those effing strawberries, im at around 12 carbs. so i had a bit of room if moonshine does indeed have carbs.

It's definitely made with a shitton of sugar and yeast. Yet i imagine that the chemical structure of the end product is completely different. It's tough to say.

The ketostix should be able to clear it up.

 

[ironwings]

Girl remember that when it says >30g carbs. It is talking about carbs from veggies. Absolutely no sugar no matter how many carbs you can have. The sugar stops the process of ketosis. I've been seeing tons of people gaining lots of fat on this diet simply because they are not getting their carbs right - even if under 30g. Stick to veggies for your carbs. No slip ups.

 

[mattie o]

hmm. ive consumed very tiny bits of sugar before and stayed in ketosis. not on purpose of course, you know, accidentaly taking a bite of something that had some sort of sauce that had sugar in it, or peanut butters that are made with real sugars (i stick with the all natural stuff now.) i can TOTALLY taste even the tiniest bit. i dont eat many veggies, maybe a salad here and there, but most of my carbs come from cheese, which has a tiny bit, i count each egg i eat as 1, my pwo shake only has a couple...i never seem to go over 15 or so.....staying under 20 works for me, as far as ketosis goes as long as im eating as clean as i can during the week. i did f*** up with the moonshine, even if it didnt have carbs, it still made me feel like crap today...ugh.

oh well, onward and upward! i dont think i TOTALLY ruined all my hard work

 

[mattie o]

do you guys find that the day after carb up, your just NOT hungry?

 

[cobracock1979]

Also - ketostix are not the best way of measuring Ketosis, they can be very innacurate. there is something similar but is more accurate - will try and remember what they are called.

 

[OneBreath]

I wasn't too hungry on Sunday either. I successfully cut calories really low both sunday and yesterday. I added a little too much weight on the carbup so i'm trying to keep things in check. I want to base things on the scale but my lifts have gone up last week and this week. It is possible that i'm adding muscle but i don't want to tell myself that or i'll be slack on cutting calories.

I was 230.8 on friday before the carbup (net loss of 1.5 lbs from the previous week) and got as high as 237 on sunday after the carbup. I'm now back to 233.6. I want to break into 229 this week. We'll see.

 

[SouthernLord]

This is a great thread. You guys are awesome.

 

[mattie o]

I wasn't too hungry on Sunday either. I successfully cut calories really low both sunday and yesterday. I added a little too much weight on the carbup so i'm trying to keep things in check. I want to base things on the scale but my lifts have gone up last week and this week. It is possible that i'm adding muscle but i don't want to tell myself that or i'll be slack on cutting calories.

I was 230.8 on friday before the carbup (net loss of 1.5 lbs from the previous week) and got as high as 237 on sunday after the carbup. I'm now back to 233.6. I want to break into 229 this week. We'll see.

DUDE. i was 135 before, then monday afternoon i was at the gym, and i thought what the hell, ill hop on the scale...142! yikes! now, i know better than to weigh in the afternoon anyway, plus, my monthly friend came to visit me. so im a big ol water buffalo. ugh. i tried not freak out. carboHYDRATE, right?!

ill weigh again on friday morning, see where im at. in the meantime, im enjoying a t bone steak. yay!

 

[OneBreath]

DUDE. i was 135 before, then monday afternoon i was at the gym, and i thought what the hell, ill hop on the scale...142! yikes! now, i know better than to weigh in the afternoon anyway, plus, my monthly friend came to visit me. so im a big ol water buffalo. ugh. i tried not freak out. carboHYDRATE, right?!

ill weigh again on friday morning, see where im at. in the meantime, im enjoying a t bone steak. yay!

Aside from your monthy intruder, a good way would be to weight yourself on Friday morning and then again on Sunday post cardio.

So that way you compare Precarb to precarb and post carb to post carb on a week to week basis. This should show steady progress.

As far as weight jumps go, i've heard of 15 lbs before. I would freak if jumped 15 lbs.

This afternoon i broke into 232.8. Relief. I was getting worried. I want 229 on Friday. I swear i have never paid so much attention to my bodyweight.

 

[pinkiron]

Hi Onebreath... I just wanted to say thank you for posting this article on the CKD diet. I've heard about it in the past (namely by Tom Venuto in Burn the Fat, Feed the muscles) but never got around to it because it seemed a little confusing to me... Anyhow, I think that his time around, I'll give it a try since I need to shed a few pounds of fat and I get the concept now. Good luck to you and ironwings and keep us posted on your progress if you can.... Enjoy the pancakes ironwings!