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FreakMonster
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Please vote in the poll. Just wanted to get an idea of how many guys use some type of pain pill on a regular basis.
Are you taking pain pills regularly?
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justinjones1963
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Pain pills are for pussies.
gettnlarge01
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Some of us actually need them to do daily activities and live a somewhat normal life!!
solidspine
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I don't and I hurt all over.
LiquidPhire
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I used to abuse them all the time, not its only when I need them.. Perscribed Flexeril and them muscle relaxers fuck my whole shit up.
I have the same problem, I have multiple buldging disks and I'm only 25 years pld which means Ihave been recently dropped from my parents insurance I was on a script of 4 10mg/650mg. percocet(oxycodone) a day and now I'm stuck without insurance at the moment and any insurance company I sign with will not cover any pre-existing conditions for one year which means no surgery or prescription drug coverage for a year. I know the policy on requesting sources from this site,but I was hoping someone could lead me in some direction for help, anything anyone could tell me would be greatly appreciated, I have been through physical therapy,chiropractor, massage therapy, anti-inflammatories, and months off from the gym. I live my life in pain and any advice would help
vincentpeoples
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Absolutely hate them...i feel foggy all the time and the sides are unbearable
mrwhiterightsnow
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i dont believe in pain pills
sweatandscience
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Pain pills can be dangerous if abused, but they have tremendous potential for assisting a BBer to make the most of recovery time.
I don't think that anyone would argue that opiates (WITHOUT THE DAMN tylenol, apap, or Acetaminophen bound into the pill) can do wonders in reaching psyiological goals, including making workout recovery more productive.
The worst thing about pain pills is the supplemental pain relievers they add to them that wreck your liver when you exceed the recommended dosage. This is deadly, and the FDA should be stepping in here to review policy.
Oxycontin my be a terrible drug for addicts and wrecks many lives, but it's safer on the body than the Percocets, Vicodin, Lortabs, etc. that can do more permanent harm.
None of these drugs should be taken with alcohol for several reasons, but the safest drug overall is oxycontin on the body.
There will always be those who are too ignorant or scared to safely employ opiates as an important part of an effective cycle, and you will never convince those people otherwise. They will always have a horror story ready to share about how pain pills wrecked someone's life they knew, and thus, they can never be safely used without losing everything (unless their Dr. gave them their own, then they are perfectly safe and blessed by the Pope Himself).
Certainly dont be one of the unfortunate individuals who progressively abuse the drugs and end up losing the gains they worked so hard to accomplish.
But Many, MANY BBs use pain pills safely, intelligently, and effectively to help them reach their goals and to assist them in reaching those goals more effectively.
I don't think that anyone would argue that opiates (WITHOUT THE DAMN tylenol, apap, or Acetaminophen bound into the pill) can do wonders in reaching psyiological goals, including making workout recovery more productive.
The worst thing about pain pills is the supplemental pain relievers they add to them that wreck your liver when you exceed the recommended dosage. This is deadly, and the FDA should be stepping in here to review policy.
Oxycontin my be a terrible drug for addicts and wrecks many lives, but it's safer on the body than the Percocets, Vicodin, Lortabs, etc. that can do more permanent harm.
None of these drugs should be taken with alcohol for several reasons, but the safest drug overall is oxycontin on the body.
There will always be those who are too ignorant or scared to safely employ opiates as an important part of an effective cycle, and you will never convince those people otherwise. They will always have a horror story ready to share about how pain pills wrecked someone's life they knew, and thus, they can never be safely used without losing everything (unless their Dr. gave them their own, then they are perfectly safe and blessed by the Pope Himself).
Certainly dont be one of the unfortunate individuals who progressively abuse the drugs and end up losing the gains they worked so hard to accomplish.
But Many, MANY BBs use pain pills safely, intelligently, and effectively to help them reach their goals and to assist them in reaching those goals more effectively.
Cauliflower Ear
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fuck pain pills...i fight 6 days a week...and i have bulging discs...torn rotator cuff...man up
dwbrown555
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No Pain Pills!!!!! They F-ed My Whole Life Up In A 1 And A 1/2 Year Span. Thank God I'm Clean Now, Which By The Way Was A Living Hell. Even The Words "a Living Hell Don't Seem To Give It Any Justice. I'm Not Going To Get Into All Of The Material Things I've Lost And That Crap, You've Heard Pleanty Of Addicts That Have Been Down That Road Before. Now I Am Off The Opiates, Using Juice "responsibly", Have Never Looked Or Felt Better In My Life,my Personal Relationships Are Re-establishing Themselves Slowly But Surely. If I Have Severe Pain In My Back Or My Elbows, Etc, I Just Take Some Aleve In The Morning Or About An Hour Before My Workout And It Helps More Than That Other Sh-- Did!!!!
Big Rick Rock
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I don't mess with any of that stuff. All those drugs are designed to get you hooked. The couple of times I have taken anything, it was because I really needed it... I Never took alcohol with it either. I have a high tolerance for pain anyway, it would take something serious for me to take pain meds, even the OTC ones...
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JKurz1
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used to pop vics (no more than 1 to 1.5 a day) and I felt good........never felt better till I quit though......how the hell did you guys manage to train while using? Anyone mess with Oxycotton? That's one that I heard can have positive effects on recovery and fat loss, and other opiates minus the tyelonol...something about increasing t-3...any truth?
JKurz1 said:
Yeah, was hooked on it for a long time, it's Oxycontin though, not Oxycotton. It don't do shit for burning fat or helping you recover. It will definately help you keep yourself out of the gym though. I could care less about working out when I stayed f'd up on Oxy's. Very bad drug and extremely hard to come off of.
oxycontin every once in awhile is orgasmic
Never have never will.
Big_Joe
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I read some of this macho shit about "pain is weakness leaving the body" and other such posts. I tell you you guys just don't know what pain is. Get cancer that will show you what pain is. I was all macho like that, a kick ass mother fucker. I got cancer and man let me tell you it was an awakening. I was in so much pain I was put on a morphine pump. I could give myself a shot of morphine every two minutes if I wanted. That was the lest amount of time they could get the machine to do. That first day I played a tune with that button and was very thankful for it.
I went through chemo and one of the chemo drugs strips the myelin from your nerves. That is like the insulation of a wire, now they fire pain all the time. I take around 180mg, sometimes more, of mscontin. That's morphine sulfate in a timed release form. The chemo was over three years ago. My doctor says that I will be like this for the rest of my life. I say bull shit!! I train four to six days a week and sometimes twice a day because I still am a kick ass mother fucker!!!
I went through chemo and one of the chemo drugs strips the myelin from your nerves. That is like the insulation of a wire, now they fire pain all the time. I take around 180mg, sometimes more, of mscontin. That's morphine sulfate in a timed release form. The chemo was over three years ago. My doctor says that I will be like this for the rest of my life. I say bull shit!! I train four to six days a week and sometimes twice a day because I still am a kick ass mother fucker!!!
noclue9415
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I dont do any perscription pain pills, advil and asprin works for me.FreakMonster said:
I've seen studies that showed a significant decrease in testosterone levels with patients that have been put on a pain management programs using narcotic pain medication.
wow bro really good post, what part of Central FL?sweatandscience said:
bicepts101
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whether nubain/pain meds helps or not....it so dangerous..its hard to be resonsible when i ur fucked up on narcotics. i would never make it a part of my bb lifestyle...too much risk involved. ide rather die from something as dumb ass low blood sugar levels from misuse of insulin than die of a nubain overdose
Powerbuilder333
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I'll take Tylenol for headaches.
I have several leftover pain scripts from past surgeries. I keep them for a rainy day that luckly hasn't arrived yet.
I have several leftover pain scripts from past surgeries. I keep them for a rainy day that luckly hasn't arrived yet.
I have damaged my feet over the years from walking, running, marching, kicking and doing 500 pound calf raises.
So I take massage and prolotherapy to repair them to about 85%.
I take tramadol for the pain. I will be taking tramadol forever and am glad it is available.
I've also taken a lot of otc pain relief for joint, muscle, tendon & lig pain. This is common for people in sports or training. Again, I'm glad they are available.
I always take the minimum dosage.
So I take massage and prolotherapy to repair them to about 85%.
I take tramadol for the pain. I will be taking tramadol forever and am glad it is available.
I've also taken a lot of otc pain relief for joint, muscle, tendon & lig pain. This is common for people in sports or training. Again, I'm glad they are available.
I always take the minimum dosage.
housemusik83
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i take advil usually or ibuprofen when i get headaches, i get them almost everyday 
Chrisco915
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Don't even take aspirin for headaches.
kidd73
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Most of us here are fairly bull-headed and are going to take what we set our mind to. While I agree taking pain meds (narcotics) can help in recovery, it's that reason I say STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
Trust me. I have been there/done that, and it doesn't end well. While you're taking them everything is great. No pain, no worries, and the big one for us, it makes you feel young!
The problem lies in the fact that oxycontin, oxycodone (percocet included here), and hydrocodone (vicodin) are very sneaky. You start taking them for legitimate purposes, but the next thing you know you're taking it because "I had a hard workout today". Sooner than later it becomes a reward for your hard workout, or your hard day at work, or your old lady pissed you off. Next thing you know....uh oh!
That's only the mental part. There's not enough room for me to start talking about the physiological effects of those drugs on your body. Bad stuff bros. If you are going through the effort of training, diet, and cycling, taking narcotic pain pills is counterproductive. It slows your metabolism big time. Primarily by constipating you and keeping unnecessary "waste" in your colon. Stick to Advil or Tylenol.
Trust me. I have been there/done that, and it doesn't end well. While you're taking them everything is great. No pain, no worries, and the big one for us, it makes you feel young!
The problem lies in the fact that oxycontin, oxycodone (percocet included here), and hydrocodone (vicodin) are very sneaky. You start taking them for legitimate purposes, but the next thing you know you're taking it because "I had a hard workout today". Sooner than later it becomes a reward for your hard workout, or your hard day at work, or your old lady pissed you off. Next thing you know....uh oh!
That's only the mental part. There's not enough room for me to start talking about the physiological effects of those drugs on your body. Bad stuff bros. If you are going through the effort of training, diet, and cycling, taking narcotic pain pills is counterproductive. It slows your metabolism big time. Primarily by constipating you and keeping unnecessary "waste" in your colon. Stick to Advil or Tylenol.
Metasomatized Ijolite
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I am a recovered lortab and darvocet addict. I started taking them when they were prescribed after surgery to repair a rotator cuff tear. It's sneaky shit. You take them legit one day and then you suddenly find yourself going to your local quack doctor who passes them out like candy on halloween. I ended up suffering stomach ulcers due to the tylenol that they add to it.
im having an issue with them as we speak. i began using them recreationally, not necessarily for fun, but the shit feels so damn good and it helps escape life problems. it seems its makin shit worse now that im off. in all honesty, i do not take them everyday. sometimes i go weeks without, but ive graduated from the vics to gettig OC's, Opana or Roxys. Reading some of these posts though is a little eye opening. i havent been on this site for a long time. i guess its time to stop this shit.
I can't stand drug seekers who come to the ER and get pissed when I don't write them scripts for their meds. Nobody should be addicted to pain meds. Get help because it's not natural.
lanky
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its funny when you look up their visit history and they have been in the ER 40 times a year for abd pain/headache/back pain/toothache
the number of allergies to non narcotic pain meds is directly related to how freakin crazy the person is...
no one should get dilaudid for a headache
Exactly. If their headache isn't relieved with compazine and they are requiring Dilaudid, then they warrant a CT and a LP.
Yea, the akasthesia makes them want to leave the ER pretty quickly. Just kidding. Usually I give Benadryl or Cogentin with it to prevent the akasthesia/dystonic reaction.
RE: pain meds... There's an article in the New York Times about limiting some schedule II's (OxyContin, Fentanyl Patch, etc.) to a select few prescribers.
lanky
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its crazy if you think about it how many people are driving around on the roads on massive dosages of narcotics and benzos.
It seems like the ortho docs tend to prescribe high dose narcotics for extended peroids of time, even if the pain is acute, seems like these patients have the most sustained pain issues and are on narcotics for a long time.
a cure for ortho problems---loose weight.
i cant stand the N/V/D abd pain females though (the dramatic ones that stick their finger down their throats to induce vomiting) or come into triage with a bag of chips in their hands and they want to eat 1 hour after they get into the ER.
sorry just ranting
tacappa
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Hi, I was in a crash in Jan. and was very greatful for narcotic pain meds. While I was in the I.C.U. they had me on this stuff that starts with a d, Im not sure how its spelled, but its something like dolota. Then for about a month after I was out of the hospital, I was on percocets, then another week and a half on vicoden. Havent been on anything since then, and Im very glad that I dont need any of them.
needtogetaas
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JLA
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Interesting note: IF you happen to be natural, off, or recovering, taking pain pills kills your LH signal. I don't have the study, but if you were to look it up, it's definitely true. I was on them for a while and my doctor said to have my test levels checked (and he is, no joke, probably the smartest guy I know). He said taking opiate pain medication regularly will kill your endogenous test. But then he offered to load me up with way too much androgel...
He was awesome. Got in trouble though, for reasons you might guess. LOL
They are absolutely the WORST when trying to recover. Seriously, if you're still on em, you might as well still be on test.
He was awesome. Got in trouble though, for reasons you might guess. LOL
They are absolutely the WORST when trying to recover. Seriously, if you're still on em, you might as well still be on test.
kx250rider
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I don't use any pain pills; only Advil if something is sore. I had a bad experience when I was a teenager when my dentist gave me some kind of narcotic pain pills. They didn't do anything for pain, and they made me sleep for a week and get an upset stomach; after only taking 2 or 3 or whatever the dose was, over the course of a day. I'll take pain any day over sleep and wake problems, and/or vomiting.
Charles
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