Sustain Through Out, no HCG?

[2evil]

So I'm planning out a cycle for NEXT fall and thinking of trying Sustain on cycle instead of HCG. It would look something like this:

WK 1-12 Test E/C 500mgs
WK 1-4 Test Prop 100mgs MWFS
WK 8-12 Monsterdrol 30mgs ED
WK 4-12 ARIMIDEX .5mgs EOD
WK 6-16 Sustain Alph 5 Pumps ED
WK 12-16 Post Cycle/ Unleashed, Nolva 10mgs ED

PP?

 

[dabuffguy]

It's an idea.

HCG is definitely much more cost effective. And probably much better in terms of keeping the nuts. There's no replacement for HCG.

But, if you can't get HCG, then this is a good alternative.

 

[2evil]

It's an idea.

HCG is definitely much more cost effective. And probably much better in terms of keeping the nuts. There's no replacement for HCG.

But, if you can't get HCG, then this is a good alternative.

Yeah, I can get it. But there are other factors I was I thinking about. I may just go w/ HCG, but would like more opinions!

Thanks BG.

 

[needtogetaas]

It's an idea.

HCG is definitely much more cost effective. And probably much better in terms of keeping the nuts. There's no replacement for HCG.

But, if you can't get HCG, then this is a good alternative.

With the new studies PP is coming out with a would beg to differ. I am not fully convinced yet, but when pp's word comes down I know he has never done us me wrong. I always fullow up on his research and have backed him and his products since day one for good reason.

Also I know of other natural compounds that do what hcg does. So its not imposable by any means. Take to joy here on this site. He uses dermacrin during all his cycles not hcg. He says when he drops in the dermacrine mid cycle he can feel his nuts coming back and getting bigger. Always recovers as well.

Again I am not totally convinced just yet but I am also would not doubt it just yet.


I would say yes do it. Start the sustain alpha around week 5-6 though if you could. Wait till atrophy sets in if you can. Then start the sustain and run it till the end. If you notice a difference then its not 100% evidence but a damn good sign.

Keep hcg on hand though. That way you can always run it at the end of the cycle if you have to.

 

[2evil]

With the new studies PP is coming out with a would beg to differ. I am not fully convinced yet, but when pp's word comes down I know he has never done us me wrong. I always fullow up on his research and have backed him and his products since day one for good reason.

Also I know of other natural compounds that do what hcg does. So its not imposable by any means. Take to joy here on this site. He uses dermacrin during all his cycles not hcg. He says when he drops in the dermacrine mid cycle he can feel his nuts coming back and getting bigger. Always recovers as well.

Again I am not totally convinced just yet but I am also would not doubt it just yet.


I would say yes do it. Start the sustain alpha around week 5-6 though if you could. Wait till atrophy sets in if you can. Then start the sustain and run it till the end. If you notice a difference then its not 100% evidence but a damn good sign.

Keep hcg on hand though. That way you can always run it at the end of the cycle if you have to.

Cool. Like I said, this won't be run until fall 2009. So that's what I'll plan right now. Love to see some of that research from PP and get his comments...

 

[2evil]

Also, my understanding is that more Adex is needed when using HCG which in turn makes you more likely to overdo the Estrogen elimination which *can* inhibit your gains and kill sex drive. We'll see, it's a long way out...

 

[Primordial Performance]

Cool. Like I said, this won't be run until fall 2009. So that's what I'll plan right now. Love to see some of that research from PP and get his comments...

So far it looks like the on-cycle Sustain protocol is effective for stimulating enough LH & FSH to stimulate testosterone production and act like a low dose of hCG. [which is effective if used early enough in the cycle]

You will need to dose in an intermittent fashion though. Start the Sustain on week 2 at 6 pumps for 3 days on, 3 days off. This allows the testes to stay sensitive to a low amount of LH & FSH. The theory here is that this will allow a much faster recovery during PCT, similar to how using hCG during the cycle will promote a faster recovery.

-Eric

 

[2evil]

Interesting. I'll consider this as I get closer...

 

[Primordial Performance]

Interesting. I'll consider this as I get closer...

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-Eric