First cycles who ran 250mg ew of test..dissapointed? Satisfied?

[HAYEZ]

it seems we have a cult of 250mg test cyclers that sware they get good results...me personally have never known 1 person out of the last 5-6 years that has done a 250mg ew test cycle and not upped the dose or was unhappy at the end...

my opinion i think its to low of a dose and just above hrt...why waste the time when you can start at 500 and put on 20-30 pounds and make your cycle worth it...

so lets here it from everyone.... IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE 250EW DO NOT GIVE ADVICE....

 

[swole]

i've done as little as 200mg EW and gotten pretty sick results

i've gone up to 300mg and had to tone it down

200-250 seems like my sweet spot when stacked with primo

3 legit cycles, never went higher than 300mg EW of test

then again running test only for a first cycle seems like the common thing to do, not sure why

 

[HAYEZ]

i've done as little as 200mg EW and gotten pretty sick results

i've gone up to 300mg and had to tone it down

200-250 seems like my sweet spot when stacked with primo

3 legit cycles, never went higher than 300mg EW of test

then again running test only for a first cycle seems like the common thing to do, not sure why

did you run the test only for each or was it with primo each time?

 

[goin on 4T]

I ran 200 cyp on hrt and got good results about 5-7lbs, however I wanted to know what 400 of cyp would do and put on another 10lbs. Now I am going back down to 200 cyp and adding 150 of deca becuase for my age the weight I was pushing was damaging my joints. I did also notice significant bloat from the 200 to 400 cyp.

 

[OneBreath]

I have run it as low as 250 but i really like 500. That's my sweet spot. 500 with a little tren and masteron (50mg EOD of both) gives me incredible results. I've gone up as high as 1 gram of test but really didn't get much more than some heavy bloat. I was using adex but it was liquid and maybe underdosed from what i'm hearing these days.

Either way, i'm currently very happy at 500 and will definitely stay there unless i really stagnate.

So who is in this cult? EXPOSE THESE PEOPLE!!!

 

[caribeman]

I did one (first) and like it. Would do another one.

 

[HAYEZ]

I have run it as low as 250 but i really like 500. That's my sweet spot. 500 with a little tren and masteron (50mg EOD of both) gives me incredible results. I've gone up as high as 1 gram of test but really didn't get much more than some heavy bloat. I was using adex but it was liquid and maybe underdosed from what i'm hearing these days.

Either way, i'm currently very happy at 500 and will definitely stay there unless i really stagnate.

So who is in this cult? EXPOSE THESE PEOPLE!!!

they will show there faces!!! lol

 

[housemusik83]

I did 500/week my first cycle and gained close to 30 pounds! i dont think i will ever have such great results no matter what... and besides the mild acne no real bad sides.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

i did 250mg/weekly for first cycle..gaine 20lbs...lost 3-4 in pct.

 

[swole]

did you run the test only for each or was it with primo each time?

i have bridged with 200mg EW using only cyp and was still growing

 

[joe d]

it seems we have a cult of 250mg test cyclers that sware they get good results...me personally have never known 1 person out of the last 5-6 years that has done a 250mg ew test cycle and not upped the dose or was unhappy at the end...

my opinion i think its to low of a dose and just above hrt...why waste the time when you can start at 500 and put on 20-30 pounds and make your cycle worth it...

so lets here it from everyone.... IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE 250EW DO NOT GIVE ADVICE....

i did 100mg of prop eod for 6 wks. results where poor. minimal gains. not enough gear. currently running 150mg prop eod with 50mg winny ed and i am happy but want to try more. i will ride it out for my 8 wks as planned. my next cycle i will run 200-250 test eod for 8 wks with dbol 30-40 mg ed for the first 4-6 wks.

 

[galaxy]

Everyone I know that has ever done this gained between 15lbs-30lbs of body weight. Some alot of bloat obviously but they definately blew up and got much more massive in general. Like, at least looked like they worked out.

 

[lookinfit75]

I ran 250 of test for 12 weeks and it was great. I ran deca at 200/week and Equi for 200/week as well so I don't know if I count. I gained a shit load of strength (most of which I still have 4 months after my cycle - only lost bench strength because of a shoulder injury) and a solid 25 lbs of muscle. Kept 20lbs and I still have 19.5" guns but I think that had a lot to do with the Proviron as a prePCT I did along with the a solid PCT and I never stopped eating like a lion.
I am very intrigued by dbol so I am going to give it a run next cycle and I will experiment with a higher dosage of test, more than likely 500mgs but I see anything I don't like, like too much bloat, I'll cut it back to 250 since that worked well for me.

 

[C Manson]

my first cyle was 250mg sust 200mgs deca...gained around 15lbs in the first month.....then nothing....upped the dose to 500mgs sust 400mgs deca around week 7....the gains started again and ended the cycle 37lbs heavier.

wish i had of started with the higher dose now...

 

[the_alcatraz]

This is a good thread.

Offtopic: Galaxy, your avatar looks sick bro.

 

[HAYEZ]

I ran 250 of test for 12 weeks and it was great. I ran deca at 200/week and Equi for 200/week as well so I don't know if I count. I gained a shit load of strength (most of which I still have 4 months after my cycle - only lost bench strength because of a shoulder injury) and a solid 25 lbs of muscle. Kept 20lbs and I still have 19.5" guns but I think that had a lot to do with the Proviron as a prePCT I did along with the a solid PCT and I never stopped eating like a lion.
I am very intrigued by dbol so I am going to give it a run next cycle and I will experiment with a higher dosage of test, more than likely 500mgs but I see anything I don't like, like too much bloat, I'll cut it back to 250 since that worked well for me.

yes you dont apply...i ws asking for test only cycles

 

[lookinfit75]

Sorry brutha Hayez lol.

Galaxy and Alcz are officially the Columbos of the board LOL.

 

[HAYEZ]

Sorry brutha Hayez lol.

Galaxy and Alcz are officially the Columbos of the board LOL.

lol gtg

 

[access]

To be honest I am unsure what I intially started at myself but I have put together cycles for guys and these include 250-350mgs/week of test only and has made noticeable changes (sometimes dramatic) on a small dose like that and is one reason why I have always advocated running 250 as a starting point. It does work.

 

[galaxy]

my first cyle was 250mg sust 200mgs deca...gained around 15lbs in the first month.....then nothing....upped the dose to 500mgs sust 400mgs deca around week 7....the gains started again and ended the cycle 37lbs heavier.

wish i had of started with the higher dose now...

I think you can feel aight about 37lbs. Thats pretty fucking dramatic as is.lol

 

[rediculus]

Can we mix this up a bit?

Add in starting body weight..

one guy's natural 300lb bodyweight may not be in the same ballpark in gains as a guy that's 200 lbs...Sounds stoopid I know but...well..Test per lb of bodyweight. I am shocked people haven't done more specific tests regarding Total Body Mass vs Recommend dosing for testosterone. Even for HRT purposes which is going to be the next viagra.

 

[the elite addict]

I could have sworn that I posted in this thread, and now its mysterously gone. strange...

 

[needtogetaas]

it seems we have a cult of 250mg test cyclers that sware they get good results...me personally have never known 1 person out of the last 5-6 years that has done a 250mg ew test cycle and not upped the dose or was unhappy at the end...

my opinion i think its to low of a dose and just above hrt...why waste the time when you can start at 500 and put on 20-30 pounds and make your cycle worth it...

so lets here it from everyone.... IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE 250EW DO NOT GIVE ADVICE....

My first cycle was not test. It was 300mg ew of deca. Given to me by my old man.

 

[HAYEZ]

I could have sworn that I posted in this thread, and now its mysterously gone. strange...

lay off the booze bro...j/k

 

[the elite addict]

lay off the booze bro...j/k

no really, im dead serious. I did post in this thread. saying that I agree that 250mg is a waste. If your going to shut your body down, then why not do 500mg. get the most out of it. My first cycle was test E 250mg, I upped it half way though and was glad i did. 200-300mg of test is a crusing dose.

 

[HAYEZ]

no really, im dead serious. I did post in this thread. saying that I agree that 250mg is a waste. If your going to shut your body down, then why not do 500mg. get the most out of it. My first cycle was test E 250mg, I upped it half way though and was glad i did. 200-300mg of test is a crusing dose.

my thoughts exactly...not sure why people want to do steroids but dont want to do real doses...

 

[access]

my thoughts exactly...not sure why people want to do steroids but dont want to do real doses...

Because as I said earlier in this thread a dose of 250-300mgs especially for a beginner does work. Look at it form a physiological standpoint where a healthy male produces somewhere around 70mgs Test a week naturally. Why then wouldn't 3-4 times this dosed exogenously be of a tremondous benefit? There are many natty (true natty's) bodybuilders that seem to be well on their own production. There is no need to be jumping in the deep end from the outset. As many have said most of us are in this for the long haul anyway so it's more a marathonm that a sprint.

 

[rediculus]

Simple

patience. No offense and I am not voting in my opinion other than.

Some people don't have the patience to let the lower doses work. The miracle pill..Then again steroids in general are people that either A are too impatient to let their body do it naturally. Or B want to exceed their genetic limits for a short period of time.

 

[OneBreath]

Damn, this poll is split right down the middle. Good discussion on an important topic. I hope it keeps going.

 

[EPROM]

Some people don't have the patience to let the lower doses work. The miracle pill..Then again steroids in general are people that either A are too impatient to let their body do it naturally. Or B want to exceed their genetic limits for a short period of time.

Hey!!! That's MEEEE!!!

I'm impatiently wanting to exceed my genetic limits in a short period of time by way of a long, juicy, plastic mL-sashed, miracle pill with a needle stuck on the end of it!!!!


...Well, at least I'm honest.

Birdman

 

[HAYEZ]

Hey!!! That's MEEEE!!!

I'm impatiently wanting to exceed my genetic limits in a short period of time by way of a long, juicy, plastic mL-sashed, miracle pill with a needle stuck on the end of it!!!!


...Well, at least I'm honest.

Birdman

nothing worng with that at all....we all have are reasons and as long as you know the risks its up to each individual...not me or anyone i know will ever compete or even want to... girls can buy tits and have plastic surgery and botox..we can shove needles in our ass and grow muscles..seems fair to me

 

[Cal_21]

My first cycle was test 250 ew for 10 wks + a little over 4 weeks of tbol (25mg ed).

I was pleased. I cut about 25 lbs on it(I was fat). I gained some good muscle, rehabbed myself after a broken collarbone. It brought me from a frail little fatty to a decently respectable shape.

My goals were different back then though. I like 500mg EW much better.

 

[princenaseem]

For the guys that did the low dose, did anyone split up their 200-300mg of test into 2 injections a week ( ie, 125mg/ twice a week)??? I was wondering if this would lower potential sides keeping levels more stable, or is it pointless at this low of a dose to split inj?

 

[Acela]

250, IMO, is plenty for a first cycle. I have done 4-5 cycles and I don't go over 350-400 mgs EW....there is just no need IMO if diet, traing & rest are all in check