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Methyltrienolone (Oral Tren)

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600-700 x more androgenic than testosterone
1200-3000 x more anabolic than testosterone.

EXTREMELY TOXIC

Any of you tried this?



Metribolone (methyltrienolone)

Androgenic 6,000-7,000
Anabolic 12,000-30,000
Standard Methyltestosterone (oral)
Chemical Names 17alpha-methyl-17betahydroxyestra-4,9,11-triene-3-one 17alpha-methyl-trenbolone
Estrogenic Activity none
Progestational Activity no data available

Description:
Methyltrienolone is one of the strongest oral anabolic steroids ever produced. This agent is a derivative of trenbolone (trienolone), which has been c-17 alpha alkylated to allow for oral administration.This modification has created a steroid that is significantly stronger than its non-methylated cousin. Its potency has been measured to be anywhere from 120-300 times greater than that of methyltestosterone, with greater dissociation between anabolic and androgenic effects.625 626 Milligram for milligram methyltrienolone is a more active steroid than any agent sold on the commercial market, requiring doses as little as .5-1 milligram per day to notice a strong anabolic effect. Its potency is only matched by its relative toxicity, however, which has limited its modern use to that of laboratory research only.

History:
Methyltrienolone was first described in 1965.627 It was immediately identified as an extremely potent anabolic agent, far more potent than the commercially available agents of the time. In spite of its high relative activity, however, methyltrienolone has seen very limited use in humans. It was used clinically during the late 1960's and early '70's, most notably in the treatment of advanced breast cancer. Here, its exceedingly strong anabolic/androgenic action helps the drug counter the local effects of endogenous estrogens, lending it some efficacy for slowing or even regressing tumor growth. Such application was not long lived, however, as more realistic evaluations of the drug's toxicity soon led to its abandonment in human medicine.
By the mid-1970's, methyltrienolone was becoming an accepted standard in non-human research studies, particularly those pertaining to the study of the androgen receptor activity. For this purpose the agent is very well suited. Its sheer potency and resistance to serum-binding proteins makes it an excellent in-vitro receptor-binding standard to compare other agents to. Being so resistant to metabolism, active methyltrienolone metabolites are also not going to greatly interfere with the results of most experiments. Body tissues can metabolize most steroids fairly easily, which means that even incubation studies can be complicated with the question of what is causing a particular effect, the steroid or one of its unidentified metabolites. This is much less of an issue with methyltrienolone. Today, methyltrienolone remains an agent of research use only.

How Supplied:
Methyltrienolone is not available as a commercial agent.

Structural Characteristics:
Methyltrienolone is a modified form of nandrolone. It differs by: 1) the addition of a methyl group at carbon 17alpha to protect the hormone during oral administration and 2) the introduction of double bonds at carbons 9 and 11, which increases its binding affinity and slows its metabolism. The resulting steroid is significantly more potent than its nandrolone base, and displays a much longer half-life and lower affinity for serum-binding proteins in comparison. Methyltrienolone chemically differs from trenbolone only by the addition of a methyl group at c-17. This alteration changes the activity of methyltrienolone considerably, however, such that this agent should not simply be considered an oral form of trenbolone.

Administration (General):
Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability.630 This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization, methyltrienolone should be taken on an empty stomach.
Administration (Men):
Methyltrienolone is no longer used in clinical medicine due to an unacceptable level of hepatotoxicity.This agent is generally not recommended for physique-or performance-enhancing purposes for the same reason. Those absolutely insisting on its use need to take its level of liver toxicity very seriously. At the very least, routine blood tests should be conducted to ensure the agent is not imparting damage. Drug duration should also be very limited, preferably to 4 weeks of use or less. The relative potency of methyltrienolone is extremely high, requiring doses as little as .5 milligram per day. Its effective and tolerable range is usually considered to be .5 to 2mg per day. Dianabol-type doses of 20-30 mg daily are completely unthinkable, and should never be attempted. Again, this is an extremely toxic steroid, and all good advice would say to avoid it. Anyone of the many commercially available steroids would be much safer choices.
Administration (Women):
Methyltrienolone is no longer used in clinical medicine due to an unacceptable level of hepatotoxicity.This agent is not recommended for women for physique-or performance-enhancing purposes due to its extremely strong toxicity and tendency to produce virilizing side effects.
 
No sir. Scares the hell out of me tbh. The toxicity far outweighs any benefit it may have for bodybuilding purposes.
 
I swear, if someone invented a drug that made you look like Jay Cutler for 5 years, but then caused you to drop dead, there will be people discussing its benefits on message boards.
 
I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on it. Those that it worked for said it was just like running tren for 3-4 weeks, but many reports didn't note anything substantial enough to pass it off as being something worth using seeing that it's insanely liver toxic. I know you'll read that sometimes liver toxicity is "overrated" but with this shit it's no joke. It's easier and safer just to run injectable tren.

My liver is a champ, I've used dbol without any liver supps and my levels were barely elevated, but there's no way I'll touch that stuff ha. M1T is the absolute craziest I'll get, and MT makes that look like child's play. I mean, just look at the dosage...most people start in the mcg... If a lab fucks that up in any way you could pickle your liver. Seen multiple reports of people landing their asses in the hospital from it.

Not sure if your looking to run it or if your simply just looking around, but it's just food for thought.
 
Why the hell would you want to take something like that when injectable is so much safer
 
Because it is technically 1000+ times stronger.

Do you really think youre getting 1000 times more results or benefits? I dont know how that translates into real world usage either. A lot of people think because "Tren is 3-5 times stronger than testosterone, therefore I will gain 50 lbs muscle instead of just 15!!!"
Doesnt work that way. Sides will easily overtake benefits
 
I know someone testing it currently. I'm also going to get a vial and test it. 10ml vial at 5mg/ml, dosing starting at just 1mg per day. I am on tudca and a prescription liver-cleansing supplement as well as N2Guard. THe person I know reports amazing results from just the short-term, small doses he is using. If his bloodwork comes back without dangerous changes, I may give it a try as well. You'll never learn to fly if you're afraid to take the smallest leap.
 
I know someone testing it currently. I'm also going to get a vial and test it. 10ml vial at 5mg/ml, dosing starting at just 1mg per day. I am on tudca and a prescription liver-cleansing supplement as well as N2Guard. THe person I know reports amazing results from just the short-term, small doses he is using. If his bloodwork comes back without dangerous changes, I may give it a try as well. You'll never learn to fly if you're afraid to take the smallest leap.

Yeah, well it's just one small step after the edge of the cliff. : )

And where are you flying to? lol

The way I see it, steroids give a tremendous advantage. But I trained for years before even trying them. I loved the bodybuilding process. And I train naturally now, except for HRT and a little 6 week cycle for the show. Just doing a mild cycle was tremendous -- it was great to see how quickly the results came. So, I don;t understand the necessity to take risks with your health. For what? How much better are you going to look? How much more money is it going to get you? How much more pussy is it going to get you? How much longer will you live? (Oh yeah, probably less so).

Actually, it all comes down to the pussy. I could give a rat's ass if the guy in the squat rack thinks I'm big as long as the hot babe likes what she sees.

Priorities boys...priorities.
 
Interesting first comment Nelson. I believe that there was a study done some time back in which olympic and elite athletes were surveyed and posed the question: if you could take something that guaranteed a gold medal, but also guaranteed that you would die in 5 years, would you take it? I am paraphrasing of course.

If I recall correctly, the majority surveyed answered yes!

Personally I am a bot too risk averse to make such a Faustian bargain, but I suppose it gives an interesting insight into the thinking of the truly elite out there, and why I for one will probably never be truly elite.

Not for me to judge those who are prepared to make such a leap though. To each their own.
 
Interesting first comment Nelson. I believe that there was a study done some time back in which olympic and elite athletes were surveyed and posed the question: if you could take something that guaranteed a gold medal, but also guaranteed that you would die in 5 years, would you take it? I am paraphrasing of course.

If I recall correctly, the majority surveyed answered yes!

Personally I am a bot too risk averse to make such a Faustian bargain, but I suppose it gives an interesting insight into the thinking of the truly elite out there, and why I for one will probably never be truly elite.

Not for me to judge those who are prepared to make such a leap though. To each their own.

Bro, the guys who become great aren't the one's who take the most drugs. I can tell I know first hand, probably half the guys on this board took more than the average Mr Olympia winner prior to 1990. I don't see too many guys who look as good as Lee Haney. Toxic drugs are simply extensions of getting more of an edge with more of a risk. But again I ask, what are you winning?
 
Bro, the guys who become great aren't the one's who take the most drugs. I can tell I know first hand, probably half the guys on this board took more than the average Mr Olympia winner prior to 1990. I don't see too many guys who look as good as Lee Haney. Toxic drugs are simply extensions of getting more of an edge with more of a risk. But again I ask, what are you winning?

I look better than Lee Haney.
 
Nelson,

I think you misunderstand me. I didn't say anywhere that a person could become great by taking more drugs. In fact I absolutely think that no drug will help someone if their diet and training are not optimal.

All I said was that some people are prepared to go to lengths, and take risks, that I would not be prepared to consider. For example I would not take something that I knew would kill me in 5 years, even if it guaranteed a gold medal or an Olympia title. Clearly though, not everyone feels that way.

Reading your posts, it's clear that you prize health and avoid things that damage or risk ones health. That's great. I feel the exact same way.

Not everyone feels that way though. Many people are willing to make choices that will damage their health and/or shorten their life, despite the irrefutable fact that taking these risks in no way guarantees success. While I don't understand it, nor would I advocate such choices, as long as they understand the implications of their choice then I think it's their choice.

I do find the psychology of such choices interesting, because it's very different from my own. I don't think I will take methyl tren at any time in the future, but I am curious about what it does, and I am especially interested in the decision making process that leads people to choose to use methyl tren, EPO, insulin and all the other high risk stuff out there.

While I personally wouldn't take such risks, I also do not believe I have the right to judge people for the choices they make.

That was my point.

Oh and to answer your question, I am not winning anything. I don't compete in bodybuilding or any other competitive sport any more. That's not why I train. I train simply because I want to, and just because I enjoy it.

Smile Nelson. No need to fight with me. I am a nobody, and I am sure there are much more worthy things for you to fight over than my inane ramblings.
 
Nelson,

I think you misunderstand me. I didn't say anywhere that a person could become great by taking more drugs. In fact I absolutely think that no drug will help someone if their diet and training are not optimal.

All I said was that some people are prepared to go to lengths, and take risks, that I would not be prepared to consider. For example I would not take something that I knew would kill me in 5 years, even if it guaranteed a gold medal or an Olympia title. Clearly though, not everyone feels that way.

Reading your posts, it's clear that you prize health and avoid things that damage or risk ones health. That's great. I feel the exact same way.

Not everyone feels that way though. Many people are willing to make choices that will damage their health and/or shorten their life, despite the irrefutable fact that taking these risks in no way guarantees success. While I don't understand it, nor would I advocate such choices, as long as they understand the implications of their choice then I think it's their choice.

I do find the psychology of such choices interesting, because it's very different from my own. I don't think I will take methyl tren at any time in the future, but I am curious about what it does, and I am especially interested in the decision making process that leads people to choose to use methyl tren, EPO, insulin and all the other high risk stuff out there.

While I personally wouldn't take such risks, I also do not believe I have the right to judge people for the choices they make.

That was my point.

Oh and to answer your question, I am not winning anything. I don't compete in bodybuilding or any other competitive sport any more. That's not why I train. I train simply because I want to, and just because I enjoy it.

Smile Nelson. No need to fight with me. I am a nobody, and I am sure there are much more worthy things for you to fight over than my inane ramblings.

Wasn't fighting bro. The question was rhetorical.

And I'll about going the extra mile to reach your goal. But this isn't about what I want or what I like. I just think that every time someone makes a decision to do something that is obviously harmful it discredits bodybuilding and the validity of intelligent people to use enhancement drugs.

It's a black eye and a step backward and empowers those who want to make it a criminal act. And it sways others to push the envelope just a little more. The irresponsibility of the few makes us all look foolish. THAT...I have a problem with.
 
I bring up the example of Brett Favre on here. he made a lot of money but now he can barely walk and can't even remember who his wife is on some days. was it worth it? maybe.. his family will never need to work again.. however his grandkids may never know who he is because of his mental state and he may not be able to take them fishing or that other stuff gramps do cause of his physical ailments. it didn't have to be that way.. he could of retired at 36 and not kept playing and bashing his body in, but he wanted to prove everyone wrong and he wanted to break more records.

if you have a family you have responsibility so you can no longer think about yourself when you make decisions. its not fair to punish your family for your selfish goals. that's my opinion.

as far as the thread goes, I really can't imagine dealing with the sides and living a normal life taking harsh compounds. I like to do things other than workout, eat, fuck, and sleep. I like my job, I like hiking, I like fishing, I like boating, I like a lot of other stuff. if you inherited money from mommy and daddy (I know some guys like this) then you can just spend your life working out, gambling, fucking, and taking compounds without worry. one guy I know who is like this has had 2 heart attacks, STD's already and he is only in his mid 30's.

some of you young guys on here who might read this thread have zero clue about this lifestyle, no clue whatsoever.. those that get into it and obsess over it are on a bad trajectory.. sit down sometime and calculate how much money you have blown on this lifestyle and ask yourself if its worth a plastic trophy. there really isn't any money to be made in this unless you end up like Arnold and start doing movies and other stuff like that. if you went around and asked people who Jay Cutler is they would either say the QB of the Bears or they would have no clue.
 
science is never wrong.

Science may not always be right, but probably has a better grasp on the concept than you do. Unless of course, you've been doing your own extensive, well funded state of the art laboratory research
 
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