friend and orals

[aced1]

whats up guys? first of all i'd like to thank dylan once more for helping me out in my cycle which has been great so far. much respect to this guy.

now i have this friend that wants to bulk up(and keep as much as possible) but just with orals.i tried to explain him about test and how it should be the base of everything but we just wont listen.so because he doesnt have access to the net he asked me to do a little research for him.the truth is that i found it hard to plan a cycle just with orals so i could use some help.at the moment this is what im thinking :

23 y old 177 pounds 1,73 height 12% bf stats

week 1-4: dbol 40mg/day
week 4-8: anavar 80mg/day
week 4-8: proviron 50mg/day
week 1-8: n2guard
week 1-8: hcgenerate

PCT 8-12 : unleashed/post cycle
daa
forma stanzol
ostra 12.5mg/day (to help keep gains)

-maybe add some milk thistle in cycle ??
-i guess he shouldnt wait 2 weeks for pct like we do when pinning..or should he?

any help would be nice like i said its been hard planning an oral cycle and i dont know if its any good.

cheers

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

whats up guys? first of all i'd like to thank dylan once more for helping me out in my cycle which has been great so far. much respect to this guy.

now i have this friend that wants to bulk up(and keep as much as possible) but just with orals.i tried to explain him about test and how it should be the base of everything but we just wont listen.so because he doesnt have access to the net he asked me to do a little research for him.the truth is that i found it hard to plan a cycle just with orals so i could use some help.at the moment this is what im thinking :

23 y old 177 pounds 1,73 height 12% bf stats

week 1-4: dbol 40mg/day
week 4-8: anavar 80mg/day
week 4-8: proviron 50mg/day
week 1-8: n2guard
week 1-8: hcgenerate

PCT 8-12 : unleashed/post cycle
daa
forma stanzol
ostra 12.5mg/day (to help keep gains)

-maybe add some milk thistle in cycle ??
-i guess he shouldnt wait 2 weeks for pct like we do when pinning..or should he?

any help would be nice like i said its been hard planning an oral cycle and i dont know if its any good.

cheers

N2guard is good enough usually for liver support but adding some milk thistle before bed couldn't hurt.

 

[Sinister613]

No waiting on pct and preload with milk thistle w-2 or w-3 to w1.

Sent from Canada

 

[bigbassturd]

That means running a 17aa compound for 8 weeks bro.

Not really a good idea, as var is just as hepatoxic as dbol. His lipids will be so jacked up and he will end up with all kinds of BP sides and liver strain.

If he doesn't want to inject, and he wants keepable gains, just have him run var for 6 weeks at 60/60/60/60/80/80

and start pct the day after his last dose of var.

 

[EZ_E]

How long has this guy been training? What's his caloric intake?

~EZ

 

[aced1]

That means running a 17aa compound for 8 weeks bro.

Not really a good idea, as var is just as hepatoxic as dbol. His lipids will be so jacked up and he will end up with all kinds of BP sides and liver strain.

If he doesn't want to inject, and he wants keepable gains, just have him run var for 6 weeks at 60/60/60/60/80/80

and start pct the day after his last dose of var.

so u suggest just var or add some proviron with it?
keep ostra on pct or not?

 

[aced1]

he has been lifting for 6 years, 5 with good trainning and diet. just asked him about his calorie intake he sais he tries to be around 4,500

 

[Straightshot]

You could throw the proviron in with the var forsure. Osta will fit in nice with the pct but isnt a have to have. No need for milk thistle as n2gaurd will have him covered.

 

[GangstaDogg]

If he wants to bulk just go with dbol and save the var for later for a cutting cycle. dbol 4-6 weeks max and 20-30 mg is fine to start with.

 

[aced1]

the thing is that with a dbol only cycle i think he wont be able to keep the gains...