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Will 100mg of deca be enough to receive the joint healing benefits?

I have a rotator cuff injury from college football and separated the same shoulder. During high school. I never got the surgery and opted to just go with rehab. I've been training Mma since I stopped playing ball and my shoulder is pretty f-ed! I was just wondering if I could run deca purely for the joint healing purpose? If anyone has any experience with this please let me know. I am not currently injured just day to day life is extremely painful. As everyone here knows giving up training is not an option. I'm fighting Father Time so taking time off the mat is not an option either.
Thanks in advance for any help!

What did your MRI show? I had a completely torn rotator and of course had to have surgery. Did it dumbell benching.
 
Steve thanks. Your pretty good. The past few months I have cut back on my olive oil intake and ive been slacking on the salmon. I can't do mackerel. I'm usually pretty good with my diet but I've been working late in the evenings and skipping dinner. Which is when I would have my fish meals. I never would have put 2&2 together. I will make sure to stop skipping dinner for a couple weeks and see how it goes. This is why I love this site!
 
I think the "Deca lubricates the joints" thing may even pre-date the internet. The 1st time I heard that was in Dan Duchaine's Anabolic Reference Guide (1990). I still have a copy, LOL!

Pages 29-30, "Deca has gained a reputation as being somewhat of an alleviator of sore joints and tendons. Athletes report that sore shoulders, knees and/or elbows are somehow without pain on the Deca cycle."

That was golden information at the time. Wow, have things changed! Information is infinitely better and more readily available now...thanks to a site like this.
 
Thank you! I'm convinced on trying TB also. Does anyone's rats have a favorite place for TB?

try TB 5mg .. the next day you will either feel better.. or feel nothing.. if your rat feels better than continue treatment.. if it doesn't then you are gonna have to take it easy on your joints and use the omega oil program i listed above. chemical need is a current sponsor and they sell it

also if you have abused anti-inflammatories in the past keep in mind you could of caused a condition to become chronic and/or permanent.

the body will send out inflammation to a joint when there is an injury or excessive use. guys who use anti-inflammatories in that situation SHUT OFF their own body from healing things. its so why so many guys in their 40's and 50's have chronic problems from weightlifting and why there is this myth out there that lifting weights is bad for you. once again a small amount of meatheads gives this wonderful lifestyle/hobby/sport a bad rep because they were stupid

i wanted also to make it clear to those reading this that it is imperative that olive oil be pure that they buy. even if they claim it to be real olive oil what is actually being sold to you is vegetable oil, and yes those companies get away with it. if a bottle of olive oil costs 3 bucks then you are probably buying veggy oil, not real olive oil. legit olive oil will never be that cheap unless maybe you live in Italy lol.. the simplest way to tell if its legit olive oil is the price + when you drink it raw it should give your throat a mild burn. then you know its legit.
 
why don't you also get ultra-sound deep tissue therapy. some ppl think ultra-sound is the stuff pregnant women use to see if it's a boy/girl. but it's actually sound waves rubbed over the shoulder joint or wherever joint. ultra-sound gives heat to that area where it's very hard to get heat at. Ultra-sound treatment can be administered by a physical therapist or a chiropractor and is like dirt cheap if u have no insurance.

i had an irritated shoulder warmth/tenderness that wouldn't go away and with 1 ultra-sound treatment administered by a physical therapist it got 90 % better for a long time.

also maybe try goin 2 the health care provider jay cutler goes to neuromuscular therapists (NT's). They stretch tendons and muscles, and joints in a way that u can't get heat to in a traditional way.

stretching and heat (by a pro like an NT) in the long run helps with healing...getting to the root of the problem

also as u probably know load up on glucosamine, & fish oil and drink loads of water.
 
I think the "Deca lubricates the joints" thing may even pre-date the internet. The 1st time I heard that was in Dan Duchaine's Anabolic Reference Guide (1990). I still have a copy, LOL!

Pages 29-30, "Deca has gained a reputation as being somewhat of an alleviator of sore joints and tendons. Athletes report that sore shoulders, knees and/or elbows are somehow without pain on the Deca cycle."

That was golden information at the time. Wow, have things changed! Information is infinitely better and more readily available now...thanks to a site like this.
nice work...authoritative source..."pre-dates the web" can't get it more from the horses mouth than that...Deca-D for the aged and the arthritic....im almost 41 dude & Deca-d will be a part of my shoulder stabbing meds, soon...just waitin 4 the next cycle :)
 
Thanks for all the feedback! All that info is great! I'm going to the dr next week. On travel this week. I will def ask about the ultrasound and try to see if I can get my dr to write a referral for the NT. thanks bros this thread has been extremely useful!
 
I'm glad to help cos I'm in a similar situation. Shoulder injuries are the most common bodybuilding injury. One of the best things for older people like myself (41 y.o.) and you to do is to go to a chiropractor every so often--I think every 1-2 months, but I'm not sure. The chiropractor will put the body in balance. The medical/pharmaceutical community wants to prescribe medication and make lots of money. Chiropractor's should charge only $35-$50 for an adjustment. The intial/consultation visit will be a little higher cos some chiropractors take x-rays. Chiro's use electro-stimulation to relax your neck, your lower back, your traps, your shoulders. They stretch out the bod and then push it back into alignment. I highly recommend not only an NT, but a chiropractor--cos a chiro is all-inclusive--the entire bod. Physical therapy is only body-specific and is not as thorough on the whole body as a chiropractor is. Plus, ask your chiro (after u get a referral for a chiro from your fam doctor) about a cutting edge treatment called "Laser." This is a little expensive, but excuse the pun--it's ultra-sound on steroids :) x times better!

get yourself also a McDavid hot/cold gel pack shoulder strap pad about $40 on amazon.com. WARM UP WITH A HOT GEL PACK BEFORE TRAINING AND like my physical therapist recommends put ice on the shoulder after working out cos it helps with healing. I thought ice was only immediately after an injury, but it also is a big step in speeding up recuperation and healing muscle fiber tears post-workout.


also "Treat Your Own Rotator Cuff" by Jim Johnson, PT (physical therapist) can also be purchased on amazon.com. There are like 500 reviews with at least a 4 star rating on this book. I have it myself. You will learn about your rotator cuff, its function and also what exercises to do prior to training, during training and how to add strength and HEALING WARMTH to this weak part of the bod--the rotator cuff of the shoulder joint.

finally, when you are doing flat bench presses don't do full range of motion don't bring the bar all the way down to your chest. Also don't completely lock-out. When you were younger you could do full range of motion for a better stretch, but it's a real strain on the little rotator cuff joint when your older.

also when you do upright rows you know how you bring the bar down and kind of let it hang at the bottom of the movement? Don't do that anymore. That's a big strain on the rotator cuff, too. You don't want to hang anymore even though it seems kind of natural. Like also when you do dumbell shoulder shrugs at the bottom, there's a tendency to let that dumbell hang and pull & (maybe rest) before bringing it back up to your ear, BUT *that really stresses the rotator cuff joint in the shoulder--don't do that.

I'm grateful to have helped you in a small way cos like I said shoulder probs are a very common bodybuilding injury--the rotator cuff is an INHERENTLY tiny, weak part of the body, and I'm happy to help because I myself also want to repair my own shoulder problems and to prevent further.

The mind is your best tool..mind over matter!...you can and WILL get your shoulder as close to 100% better!

Take care, and let us know of your progress at another post. :)
 
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