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Mormons, You don't have to be afraid of black people anymore.

Considering the golden plates exist nowhere for us to see or study the hieroglyphs that were supposedly translated, how does one say he got some things unmistakably correct? Or incorrect in Bino's case.

I just don't understand how you can tell me there's proof the translations are unmistakably of Hebrew origin or correct or inspired. How? What proof?

And I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm honestly curious. Because my great grandma was born in the 1800s and I own some of her jewelry, but a supposedly invaluable holy text engraved on tablets is missing? That warrants skepticism beyond what I think can be proven without them, which is about nothing.

Bino was referring to the book of Abraham, which is not part of the BoM which was translated from egyptian texts that we actually do have and are published.

There are many things in the Book of Mormon that are evidence of its authenticity.

For example, guerilla warfare tactics are present in the book, which was completely unheard of in American warfare. Joseph Smith was familiar with muskets, and shooting people, not guerilla warfare.

Chiasmus hebrew poetry is something an, at the time, 21 year old with no significant formal education would have even been aware of, let alone produce an extensive amount of it by sheer accident.

A portion of Isaiah is cited in the book, and the translation was compared to what the Bible passage translate them as from Hebrew, and the Book of Mormon citation is actually more complete and accurate, and is not plagarized word for word, which is what a fraud would do.

The plates themselves are said to have been taken up by an angel. Extremely "convenient", but there is plenty of evidence and witnesses to conclude that they indeed were real. People saw them and held them. Even men who left the church never denied what they saw when asked decades later. A portion of the heiroglyphs from the plates were copied down and taken to an expert in New York that deemed the characters authentic. A 21 yr old "uneducated" person can't possibly fake egyptian and have it actually be real by chance.

There are too many things to list.

Even things that it was initially criticized for heavily back then over time have been proven to be accurate, such as the existence of certain animals in the western hemisphere that, at the time, were believed to have come from the east since the colonization of america by the europeans. Such things as horses and elephants. We know the mayans made tons of elephant carvings and sculptures, which proves they were known as far back as 700 AD from archaeological records. It could have been a simple target to be proven fraudulent, but more recent discoveries prove he was actually right.

Again, from a physical evidence stand point, there are many things. As time moves on, more and more things are being proven accurate as opposed to ignorant or untrue. Nearly every single point of criticism, and there are hundreds, have been proven over time as discoveries have been made. The only large lingering question left is the specifc geographical location of where the events of the book took place.

But, even with the ever growing support of evidence in its favor, we don't try to convince people to join our church because of physical evidence. Specifically, we challenge people to read the book and pray and ask God if it is true and recieve a spiritual witness from God himself that it's true, and not take anybody's word for it except his.
 
You have to understand the origin of the people in the Book of Mormon.

At the beginning of the book, Lehi, a Hebrew, takes his family and leaves Jerusalem under the guidance of God because Babylon is about to destroy it. The Bible speaks of this destruction (Jeremiah).

They then travel to "The promised land" which we know today to be the western hemisphere, the americas. The group of people is the beginning of all the people talked about in the book.

Right, I read all that. The Americas was a vast, vacant and promised land. And so the chosen people came and some turned against their brethren and so God punished them by darkening their skin to Indian dark. And thats why there are still cursed dark skinned people because of the terrible crimes their fathers or ancestors committed. This is a fundamental foundation for the BoM as clearly stated in the scripture.

Does it mention any other geographical regions or address the existence of other lands apart from the promised land in the scripture? I missed those parts if its in the book.

The book is an account of God's dealings with only a certain group of people descended from the people that fled Jerusalem, therefore it does not speak about other people like Africans, Asians or europeans (gentiles).

Okay, thanks for telling me, I kept hoping I would run over some scripture to describe anyone other than indian or white to exisit.

Does this make legit authorities on mormonism like Smith and his accounts and descriptions of other groups an extension of truth to the book of mormon as the the book is an extention of the bible?

The book itself is an additional volume of scripture that supports the Bible, it does not replace it.

We hold the Bible and Book of Mormon both as canonized scripture and use both regularly for spiritual enlightenment.

Our religion recognizes the origin of the African race as it is explained in the Old Testament in the Bible.

Do you consider yourself christian?

Does that answer your question?

No.

1. Do you believe I will be a negro servant if I get into heaven?

2. If yes, do you think that slavery was heaven to the blacks?

3. If no, do you think you are a better authority on Mormonism than the founding fathers of Mormonism?
 
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I too would like to know if I will be a negro servant if I get into heaven.

How much negro blood particles are we talking about here? You don't look dark skinned black, you look more like Indian dark skinned and mostly cursed and filthy.
 
How much negro blood particles are we talking about here? You don't look dark skinned black, you look more like Indian dark skinned and mostly cursed and filthy.

I've never posted my picture on here. Only about 4 or 5 people on here have seen me.
 
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