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2 Questions: Overtraining and Diet

seamusm

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Hi everyone!

Shortly I will be starting a mild cycle of Test E(my 2nd) at 500mgs/wk. I have a fairly athletic body, but I have a concave chest and find it somewhat difficult to put on muscle and gain strenth in my chest and back. For my arms and shoulders however, I put on muscle mass and gain strenth very easily

My first question is, while on Test, would it be counterproductive to work my chest and back HARD twice a week? Would I be overtraining or would the Test in my body allow me to recover quickly enough to do this? Hypothetically, lets say Mondays and Fridays

I have also been doing some reading on different dieting and have become very interested in fasting. Im considering trying a diet of fasting for 8hrs during the morning and afternoon, and then cramming down as many calories as possible during the evenings. I've read claims that this is the absolute best way to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I have a work schedule that will allow me to do this, but im concerned about whether I'll have the appetite to consume 3000 calories in 6-8hrs. I know everyone has different eating habits, so sorry if this is a dumb question but I was wondering what other peoples experiences were doing this.

For people who have tried this, did you find it a superior way to both burn fat AND increase muscle mass at the same time? Also, did you find it difficult to consume the calories you needed during this timespan(concerning your appetite, not the availability of food)?

Thank you for taking the time to read, and for any and all replys!
 
As far as IF goes I would think you could get 3000 cals in that time. Depending on your macro/micro beliefs you probably could manipulate your diet to make it happen. I have done 300g protein, 200g carbs, and about 50g fat in one meal before. Quite easily I might add... thats around 2450 cals right there, took less than one hour.
Working out 2x a week on a certain body part is not unheard of, I train HST where I do full body every other day. Just cant go to failure and you have to plan accordingly. Also, Layne Norton's PHAT is a twice a week routine and that is done natty (I think, he claims to be a natty).
 
I actually just started Lean Gains a week ago and can say the first couple days I'd hard but after that it's a piece of cake.

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Hi everyone!

Shortly I will be starting a mild cycle of Test E(my 2nd) at 500mgs/wk. I have a fairly athletic body, but I have a concave chest and find it somewhat difficult to put on muscle and gain strenth in my chest and back. For my arms and shoulders however, I put on muscle mass and gain strenth very easily

My first question is, while on Test, would it be counterproductive to work my chest and back HARD twice a week? Would I be overtraining or would the Test in my body allow me to recover quickly enough to do this? Hypothetically, lets say Mondays and Fridays

I have also been doing some reading on different dieting and have become very interested in fasting. Im considering trying a diet of fasting for 8hrs during the morning and afternoon, and then cramming down as many calories as possible during the evenings. I've read claims that this is the absolute best way to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I have a work schedule that will allow me to do this, but im concerned about whether I'll have the appetite to consume 3000 calories in 6-8hrs. I know everyone has different eating habits, so sorry if this is a dumb question but I was wondering what other peoples experiences were doing this.

For people who have tried this, did you find it a superior way to both burn fat AND increase muscle mass at the same time? Also, did you find it difficult to consume the calories you needed during this timespan(concerning your appetite, not the availability of food)?

Thank you for taking the time to read, and for any and all replys!




Slow down here my man, We have alot of knowledgeable people on these forums and I also work at a hospital , so lets start by getting a run down of a few things so we may assist you better.

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Hi everyone!

Shortly I will be starting a mild cycle of Test E(my 2nd) at 500mgs/wk. I have a fairly athletic body, but I have a concave chest and find it somewhat difficult to put on muscle and gain strenth in my chest and back. For my arms and shoulders however, I put on muscle mass and gain strenth very easily

My first question is, while on Test, would it be counterproductive to work my chest and back HARD twice a week? Would I be overtraining or would the Test in my body allow me to recover quickly enough to do this? Hypothetically, lets say Mondays and Fridays

I have also been doing some reading on different dieting and have become very interested in fasting. Im considering trying a diet of fasting for 8hrs during the morning and afternoon, and then cramming down as many calories as possible during the evenings. I've read claims that this is the absolute best way to burn fat and build muscle at the same time. I have a work schedule that will allow me to do this, but im concerned about whether I'll have the appetite to consume 3000 calories in 6-8hrs. I know everyone has different eating habits, so sorry if this is a dumb question but I was wondering what other peoples experiences were doing this.

For people who have tried this, did you find it a superior way to both burn fat AND increase muscle mass at the same time? Also, did you find it difficult to consume the calories you needed during this timespan(concerning your appetite, not the availability of food)?

Thank you for taking the time to read, and for any and all replys!
I would hit back and chest on different days and increase the volume/intensity of the workout instead of worrying so much about how many times a week youre training them, listen to your body when it comes to that. If you back is still healing from your last workout then train something else or take a day off....as far as fasting I've never tried that type of diet and it may work but results would most likely be slow, if youre happy with your body composition i'd say go for it but if you NEED size or if you NEED to cut fat i'd pick one or the other and go with it....

try out n2slin, if you're bulking it will help keep you lean and if you're cutting it will help drop fat, it really is a very versatile supplement I've always got a bottle on hand...
 
Sorry...

Im 27yrs, 5'11'', 83kg
Don't know my BF but I'd guess in the 11-13% range
Been lifting about 18months steady, before that on and off

I've also been terribly lazy the last 6months and have done no cardio, which will change in the next few weeks. Planning HIIT 2x/wk

Now...
5 day split
Monday-Shoulders
Tuesday-Arms
Wednesday-Legs

Friday-Chest
Saturday-Back
 
Thats so not gonna cut it my friend, We didn't just pop up here overnite.I got that way by busting my ass, i even gave up sundays where i would train for 4 hrs, probably crazy now as i look back, yet it instilled a stubborness, and dedication i carry today, Pm me if i can help.
 
Thats so not gonna cut it my friend, We didn't just pop up here overnite.I got that way by busting my ass, i even gave up sundays where i would train for 4 hrs, probably crazy now as i look back, yet it instilled a stubborness, and dedication i carry today, Pm me if i can help.
4 hours? holy ****, I could just imagine what that workout consisted of lol
 
Thats so not gonna cut it my friend, We didn't just pop up here overnite.I got that way by busting my ass, i even gave up sundays where i would train for 4 hrs, probably crazy now as i look back, yet it instilled a stubborness, and dedication i carry today, Pm me if i can help.

Yeah, pretty bad about the cardio I know. Do you not like the way I split the routine? I've read that lifting for over an hour can be counterproductive so I split this way to put more focus on each muscle group while keeping sessions to 30-50mins. If this is not advisable, Im very happy to change it up
 
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