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shu tup the two leftists were argueing with each other
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mrplunkey
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But it sure cares if you've got some cash to pilfer.
That's why Ron Paul's call to make government smaller would work.
redsamurai
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To an extent it would which is why i'd vote for him in a ridiculous heartbeat to be president. You probably don't have a full grasp of the things Ron Paul would try to acomplish though....like ending the federal reserver. Ur a libertarian in nametag only afterall.
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mrplunkey
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Yeah, you seem so well versed on my political views.
But I do enjoy the confident ignorance. That's what keeps me entertained here.
redsamurai
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Yeah, you seem so well versed on my political views.
But I do enjoy the confident ignorance. That's what keeps me entertained here.
yeah i know what you "say" you are dude. But i've been listeing to you for what now, 5-6 years? In those years if there was even the tiniest rivulet of consistency i'd give you cred but there isn't. You want govt out of "your" business. Ron Paul wants govt out of "all" of ours business. And no you won't accept that no matter how much you proclaim to the contrary
4ever?
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Then name one domestic/monetary/regulatory policy Ron Paul supports that I don't.
You seem to know so much about me, prove it.
i dunno man, i get the sense you are trying to distance greeces' clear left leaning government from any cuplabililty in the financial debacle
Left leaning?
The Conservative party of Greece, Switzerland, Germany ect are ALL Way more left than Americas Liberalists..
Shit, Reagan is hard left of todays Conservative party. He wouldn't pass the litmus test.
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the National Socialist Party
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watch as I twist brownbrown around and position himself to step in him own feces
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Brian JapHi, my name is Brian...i am a "libertarian". Yes indeed i am.
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don't be looking at them titties you Jap
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we'll have to haul him off to the re-education camp
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tax cuts, beefing out the defense budget, stance on gayness, christian morality, deregulation, scorn towards environmentalists, attacking communism, his rightist creditentials go on and on
the only thing he had in common with lefties is increasing the fed debt to 2.6 trill (ahh the good ole days when that was a huge debt to have and he was hammered relentlessly by his opponents for this)
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look at beaner go
like a bottle rocket
like a bottle rocket
Struck a nerve ?
Reagan=
Campaigned for Gay rights = Prop 6
Amnesty for Illegal immigrants
Raised taxes more than any President in 30 years
Against tax laws that helped the rich only: "Do you think millionaire s should pay more taxes than a bus driver?"
He Tripled the federal Budget "Big government"?
Was FOR minimum wages
Increased SS and Medicare
Resource Conservation and revovery act = Increased EPA powers
He Would NOT pass todays GOP test...
Everything I just posted is 100% fact.
How many GOP members would say they support those policies?
Reagan= too Left for GOP of this decade.
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And then theres the deficit spending.
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call him on it
where did you graduate from
tinypenissamurai poked fun at my education but didn't follow up
I'll buy you a pup tent
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where did you graduate from
tinypenissamurai poked fun at my education but didn't follow up
I'll buy you a pup tent
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I'm talking to you browno
where have you been educated
you with the aggressive avatar
where have you been educated
you with the aggressive avatar
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I can squat six plates
Some more of his policies you left out of your "100%" facts:
-breaking and firing the air traffic controllers who striked
-economic recovery act which cut down the top rates and the low end tax rates
-creating another tax reform ( i forgot the name) that cut the top end down a few more percentage points
-freezing minimum wage
-cutting money to local govs by over 50%
-cutting fed support for the epa, fed education programs, food stamps, welfare and medicaid
-stopped gov price fixing of petro
-funding the shit out of the war on drugs
-appointed rehinquist and scalia to the supreme
all of which would make grover norquist quite content.
RR was a politican who understood the art of compromise, he worked with the house dems (i don't recall him calling them enemies or telling them to get to the back of the bus) something definetly lost on obama and more hardline repbulicans of modern times...
redsamurai
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umm, well yes and no....i don't think corruption is special to "left leaning" govts. Thats all i'm trying to say. This wasn't about keynesian economics, this was about stupifying corruption. They sold their country out then went to the americans to hide it.
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You forgot to mention that Reagan compromised for $1.00 in new taxes for $3.00 in cuts. Reagan compromised and the taxes were raised but there were no cuts by the Dem congress...I don't blame the Repubs for not trusting the Dems when it comes to cutting expenditures;They're the "bread and circuses" party.
On Illegals, Reagan agreed to amnesty for roughly six million on the condition congress would appropriate the funds to secure the border and create a sustainable immigration program with guest workers etc...Once again, he was pwned by the Dems who got what they wanted, amnesty for all, and didn't follow through with their promises. Today, the Dems want amnesty for 12 million on the promise of securing the border and creating a better immigration process.
I don't blame the Repubs, fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice...shame on me.
redsamurai
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is that really the house and senate consensus among the dems? I honestly don't know for sure as I know a few say that but it doesn't seem like that's the direction the house and senate as a collective are going. It's bullshit if it is. The republicans piss me off just as much though because they don't want to impose "any" sanctions on companies caught using these workers....these companies are the ones who create the demand for this labor in the first place and are the ones advertising jobs on the other side of the border. If there's no illegal jobs to be had there won't hardly be any illegals comin over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfHKIq5z80U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Reagans own words on Video.... "I believe in the Idea of amnesty" ... End quote
You're full of shit Coffee
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Reagan= Too Liberal/progressive/lefty to win GOP ... My point....
Obama = Better border security in 3 year than Bush in 8.... Fact
1/3 spending to cuts?
1~ Deficit Only grew under Reagan
2~ Spending only grew under Reagan
3~ Government grew Larger every year under Reagan
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Yeah, the illegals have been exiting the country because construction jobs are scarce...and the economy sucks ass; They self-deported...
lol, I agree about Reagan, not a fan of his military spending which grew the budget. Likewise, not a fan of Shrub or Barry who has overseen the largest explosion of deficit spending in human history with limited results...at least FDR fought WWII. Barry exploded the deficit and has achieved next to nothing.
Before you bring up Bin Laden..he wasn't consequential other than as a symbol since 9/11 and Bush invaded Afghanistan. Likewise, more domestic terrorists have attempted attacks in the first two years of Obama than the eight years of the shrub admin. That tells me that our "allied" Muslims are tired of our jihad against Islam and the United States needs to focus on the handful of terrorists...They aren't a nation state but we are alienating nation states with our tactics that don't make us safer.
I'm Not saying he wasn't a Republican, But He is Not Republican enough for Modern GOP'ers.
And Constant Compromise by Barry has ended with GOP for a position and then changing their position once Obama supported it.
Modern GOP is EVERYTHING Opposite Obama on any front. Compromise is a Dirty word now a days.
the same thing could be said about jfk, much right of current lefty mainstreamers
-beefed out the dod
-bay of pigs
-assinating the dominican republic bro
-increasing anti-communism activities in s.east asia
and about obama's comprising with the GOP, he only attempted to do so after he lost the house and couldn't steam roll them as easy...his actions and comments upon taking office were laced with hostility towards the gop, really no surprize that they aren't keen to work with him now that he is forced to do so.
redsamurai
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they need to go back and take their country back. That place is going to utter shit.
Free market devoid of regulation?? Where??!!
Aloha Stadium Swap Meet? That place is awesome bro!
How dare you talk about my beloved president like that. You are lucky I like you or else I would rip your ass up, but I will refrain considering you take fire from every direction. Nevertheless, you are about 2 million miles off the beam in relation to Reagan..
Not where. When and the results.
1830s
1890s
Early 1900s-10s
Then the Great Depression.
All the results of little to no Regulation
But if you want a truly free market I hear
Somalia, Congo and Yemen you can get land real cheap. No rules and little to no Government interference.
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redsamurai
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oh stfu toughguy....
Hey led...fuck Ronald Reagan in the mouth with a syphillis dick. What?
So what I stated about his policies were not historical fact?
So he Would pass the Current GOP litmus test?
Thats my whole point he Wouldnt. And actually it's been explained pretty clearly.
It can not be legitimatley denied.
Reagan = Too Lefty for GOP of the past 10 years.
mrplunkey
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That's a completely ridiculous statement, but I have no doubt you picked it up on some liberal website so you'll just run with it.
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Reagan: Too Left Wing for Today?s Republicans | Common Dreams
regan compromised some and worked with the house dems, and frankly had to bump up taxes to cover his debts.
Grover Norquist would not approve. Under no circumstance are taxes to be raised.
He had to raise taxes because he built the Military to the strongest it's Ever been and didnt account for the cost.
Proposition 6 ? ... Before he was president. As a matter of fact I think he Vetoed it after it pasted a Conservative state Congress.
So
Where Have All The Reagan Republicans Gone? | Fox News
If that's a lefty source then I guess You're all More Right than the rest of America.
redsamurai
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remember brown as long as the increased debt is going straight into the military industrial complex it's fine, that kind of govt spending "is just fine".
OOOHHHH. That's right.remember brown as long as the increased debt is going straight into the military industrial complex it's fine, that kind of govt spending "is just fine".
Kinda odd, because the past 2 years the GOP Congress has been totally cool with CUTTING Military member benefits.
oh stfu toughguy....
Hey led...fuck Ronald Reagan in the mouth with a syphillis dick. What?
No thanks! First, I am a straight-shooter, second, I do not engage in necrophilia. You must have me confused with Pick and Spart.. WHAT? You are a troll that's WHAT... No wonder Plunkey smacks you across the face everyday, you deserve it.
please demonstrate this with a link.
and the 112th congress with john bohner has been seated for a little over a year not two years
Im not a fan of doing research for others. You have a perfectly working Google machine.
But here are a few links of a FEW cuts the current GOP house and Senate members are Pushing.
Republican’s War on Veterans Benefits Continues
http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/07/president-republicans-eye-23-billion-benefits-cut/
http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/10/defense-cuts-will-benefit-veterans/
http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/10/defense-cuts-will-benefit-veterans/
Bachmann plan would cut veterans benefits - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times
Dec 2011 Congress Passed a bill to cut GI bill benefits.
Lots of cuts in "1 year" of GOP House control, and GOP Senate obstruction.
Secondly, You never split hairs on anyone saying Obama had 3 years to fix the economy.
If you want to go that route. Barry has only had less than 2 years . ( ALL of 2009 Was Bush's budget.)
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/08/23/where-have-all-reagan-republicans-gone/ = Lefty source?
Anybody who suggests Reagan was not to the left of the current GOP stock obviously has no idea what theyre taking about.
Bill Moyers had a legit interview with Bruce Bartlett (you dont have to bother googling him...he's only the guy that came up with the whole concept of "Reaganomics" as one of The Gipper's advisors) and even his head is exploding with the retards (plunkey, et al) who try to pass themselves off as conservatives today.
Bruce Bartlett on Where the Right Went Wrong on Vimeo
Of course, there's also David Frum's (Dubya's speech writer) brilliant essay: Print Page
What a shame the GOP has become. The question is, once they lose yet again this November, will they continue moving further to the right (assuming that's even possible) or actually backtrack a tad and become legitimate Reagan Republicans?
Bill Moyers had a legit interview with Bruce Bartlett (you dont have to bother googling him...he's only the guy that came up with the whole concept of "Reaganomics" as one of The Gipper's advisors) and even his head is exploding with the retards (plunkey, et al) who try to pass themselves off as conservatives today.
Bruce Bartlett on Where the Right Went Wrong on Vimeo
Of course, there's also David Frum's (Dubya's speech writer) brilliant essay: Print Page
What a shame the GOP has become. The question is, once they lose yet again this November, will they continue moving further to the right (assuming that's even possible) or actually backtrack a tad and become legitimate Reagan Republicans?
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Sally Kohn is a Fox News Contributor who is about as far left as it gets. Hell, she's more left than half of MSNBC. Here's what she says about herself on her own web site:
But you stumble across a good point. Fox News is balanced in that they hire libtards like this as well as the Jebus freaks.
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remember brown as long as the increased debt is going straight into the military industrial complex it's fine, that kind of govt spending "is just fine".
one item I'm fairly sure of that is made in the USA
is our armaments
that quarter million dollar cruise missle
wasn't just 250K poof
americans got wages making that damn cruise missle
WWII pulled the USA out of the great depression
Germany, which was in a considerable worse condition
under Hitler and National Socialism placed Germany at the top in 1936
3 years
worst to first
only time I can think of socialism worked
but the 3rd Reich didn't tolerate weaklings
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low blow dude
I did what I had to do A+ for my family and all the families I served
don't cheap shot me again
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remember brown as long as the increased debt is going straight into the military industrial complex it's fine, that kind of govt spending "is just fine".
That's a complete lie. There are plenty of conservatives that support deep cuts. I'd gladly sign-off on cutting military spending at least 50% and over a 6-8 year period, cutting it even more.
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communism/socialism = dictatorship
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I believe this too
we have way too much military
and out guys have about 10 years of active "trigger time"
a US force would wipe the ass of a Russian force 3 times it's size
Communism= Dictatorship
Socialism= Not Dictatorship. There are/were Plenty of Socialist controlled Governments not Controlled by Dictators.
Its a common misconception of the unknowledgeable that they are one in the same.
"Free market" = Monopoly, Oligarchy, Plutocracy.
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Wolfgang at H&R Block did my taxes today
I'm getting over 5K back
I'm getting over 5K back
Its also a common to say "cut military spending" and assuming that its only the military size that will be cut.
The Defense budget encompasses many different areas.
Plunky wouldn't be so happy if he lost all of his bloated Government contracts as a result of Defense cuts.
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he was born in schweinfurt after the war
me the ballbearings city yo
wolfgang yeah
I indentified his cool looking VW station wagon in the parking lot
I can do that
me the ballbearings city yo
wolfgang yeah
I indentified his cool looking VW station wagon in the parking lot
I can do that
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plunkey doesn't take handouts
you take handout's from the labor of others
shame on you
Lol, Weak....
And he sure does. ask him how much he pays the Chinese workers or how sweet his Government Contracts are for profit.
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probably has a bunch of "tough guy" tattoos
scary like
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Grover Norquist would not approve. Under no circumstance are taxes to be raised.
He had to raise taxes because he built the Military to the strongest it's Ever been and didnt account for the cost.
Proposition 6 ? ... Before he was president. As a matter of fact I think he Vetoed it after it pasted a Conservative state Congress.
So
Where Have All The Reagan Republicans Gone? | Fox News
If that's a lefty source then I guess You're all More Right than the rest of America.
Here is where it gets fun. Do you know why Reagan raised the deficit? I do, there are two reasons why he increased spending on the military, they both worked. I want to see if you or anyone else can tell me why he built the military up, There are two primary reasons. Reagan was a ideologue, he knew what he was going do as president years before he even became president..
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you have to measure numbers in "real" terms and as percentage of the overall
go to college
go to college
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It's probably free
paid for by people such as Plunkey
and as opposed to nomimal terms
paid for by people such as Plunkey
and as opposed to nomimal terms
Or ask him how good his tax rate is compaired to the rest of American tax payers.
Ask him
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real versus nominal
nominal uses the numbers as they are
"real" adjusts for inflation
so for a simpleton to understand I'll use an example
a gallon of gas cost 20 cents or so in 1972
now it's just shy of 4 usd
so dumbass you can't post figures of past numbers unless you adjust to "real" terms
nominal uses the numbers as they are
"real" adjusts for inflation
so for a simpleton to understand I'll use an example
a gallon of gas cost 20 cents or so in 1972
now it's just shy of 4 usd
so dumbass you can't post figures of past numbers unless you adjust to "real" terms
Reagan is too left for the GOP of this Millinium
Thats the fact, and my point.
Oh and he built up the Military because of the Cold War. Reason #1
So tell me what you think, would Reagan still be in the Primary for the GOP this year?
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I confirmed my belief
brownbrown is stilleto
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The chart is not written in todays Dollar Values Dumbass..
Its from records of the time.
Here's where the Chart fucking came from
Reagan’s Budget Legacy
Yes the CATO institute
So does fascism.
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The chart is not written in todays Dollar Values Dumbass..
Its from records of the time.
Here's where the Chart fucking came from
Reagan’s Budget Legacy
Yes the CATO institute
why do you fight with me
the best outcome you can hope for is I leave
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or do you want to get down to the nitty gritty
cut and paste pro
cut and paste pro
Or you change the subject, or you start serial posting youtube.
LOLOLOL
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Reagan is too left for the GOP of this Millinium
Thats the fact, and my point.
Oh and he built up the Military because of the Cold War. Reason #1
Yep, and it worked, the Soviet Union went bankrupt trying to keep up with the US in the arms race. Consequently, the Soviet Union fell, brilliant plan... Second, he spent all the money on the military so the dems could not spend money on their entitlement programs... lol..
So tell me what you think, would Reagan still be in the Primary for the GOP this year?
Yes, here is the deal. Reagan did not take anyone's crap. He did not compromise with the Soviets, terrorists nor the dems. He controlled the entire enviroment, the dems hated him but they respected him and he basically bullied them. Someone mentioned he worked with the dems, lol, yeah, under his terms..
Look, Reagan was the most conservative president in the history of the US, save Washington and Lincoln of course. These fools who are running for the GOP are nominal conservatives, maybe, Newt is a little more of a constitutionalist than the other two. But this litmus test you speak of is a catchphrase, a slogan, political rhetoric to garner public support...
Reagan would have done it his way. Newt and Santorum try to emulate Reagan, Paul is out in left field taking a crap. He talks a big game but he forgets there is something called separation of powers, which only Reagan was able to transcend above, heck, he still has I think one or two Justices still in the Supreme Court he appointed..
Hard-line rhetoric, uncompromsing ideology, and being a staunch, and unmoving ideologue made Reagan great... to throw up bias links and generalize about his presidency is absurd.. There is so much to it, it would take a lot of time to gather all the primary facts and come up with the most probabilities- I work in an enviroment where 90% of the people are ultra left, now they are conceding that Reagan was really, and truly a great president.
These fools who are running for GOP and Obama would not last 2 minustes debating Reagan. Google: The Reagan/Mondale debate.. lolololololololol -
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it's known as a decision loop or cascade
you get your opponent on the backend to respond to your maneuvers
when you acquire the advantage in the feedback loop
you win because your opponent(s) is operating from a depreciating position
ask ledhead
you get your opponent on the backend to respond to your maneuvers
when you acquire the advantage in the feedback loop
you win because your opponent(s) is operating from a depreciating position
ask ledhead
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in short
be one step ahead
be one step ahead
So you think he'd still be in the primary?
It's not the 80's anymore, he wouldn't have even won as many states as Ron Paul has so far.
The Litmus test is real, . Just like there's a litmus test for Dem Canidates.
Having a postion in line with your party is how you win the Nomination. Going against the Grain won't get you anywhere. Ask Huntsman,Roemer,Perry, Paul.
Even romney knows this and tries to stay in Litmus test lines.
Walter M. Never had a chance. It's not what Reagan did right, It was Mondale was a loss from the beginning. G. Ferraro / Carter ect.
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still haven't managed to post a youtube vid
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mr db do you ever play with your cat before it's had a chance to do it's stretching?
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The United States has the most regulation in its history and yet the regulators always fail.
The United States grew from a backwater colony to a major power thanks to limited federal government regulation but they did have government intervention..slavery, atrocities against natives...Guess what, free market capitalism isn't racist, they hire the best person for the job because they have enlightened self-interest.
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The magical self correcting Free Market. ahhhhhhhhh
Enlightened self intrest didnt help in 2007. Free market is a perfect
EXample of what happens to powerful people when powder is absolute.
They destroy them selfs and the ones around them.
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sorry man when you make claims expect for people to ask you to back them up.
a few things from your links that caught my attention
-Republican Paul Ryan and the House of Representatives are looking to end VA healthcare for over 1.3 million veterans who are Priority 7 & 8. These veterans are the least disabled veterans using the system, usually with disability ratings of 0 percent or no service-connected disability
-Last week, the Congressional Republicans and President Obama warned that if a new debt ceiling is not reached, veterans’ pay and Social Security pay would be threatened. In addition, President Obama and Republicans also proposed a new inflation index. The index would cut disability pay by $23 billion over 10 years.
-The White House has directed the Pentagon to reduce its 10-year spending plan by another $25 billion, on top of the roughly $450 billion it’s already planning to cut, according to three government officials.
yep, sure looks to me that it's just the GOP pushing these cuts thru
tough political position for the GOP to be in...no attempt to make cuts, lambasted from the left as war hawks...make cuts lambasted from the left has harming vets.
no win situation...personally i'd rather see the DEA, FBI, Dept of ED, energy dept, homeland security, etc cut before the military is
sorry man when you make claims expect for people to ask you to back them up.
a few things from your links that caught my attention
1. -Republican Paul Ryan and the House of Representatives are looking to end VA healthcare for over 1.3 million veterans who are Priority 7 & 8. These veterans are the least disabled veterans using the system, usually with disability ratings of 0 percent or no service-connected disability
-Last week, the Congressional Republicans and President Obama warned that if a new debt ceiling is not reached, veterans’ pay and Social Security pay would be threatened. In addition, President Obama and Republicans also proposed a new inflation index. The index would cut disability pay by $23 billion over 10 years.
-The White House has directed the Pentagon to reduce its 10-year spending plan by another $25 billion, on top of the roughly $450 billion it’s already planning to cut, according to three government officials.
yep, sure looks to me that it's just the GOP pushing these cuts thru
tough political position for the GOP to be in...no attempt to make cuts, lambasted from the left as war hawks...make cuts lambasted from the left has harming vets.
no win situation...personally i'd rather see the DEA, FBI, Dept of ED, energy dept, homeland security, etc cut before the military is
1. A 0% Rating doesnt mean that the member NO disability. It relates to a condition that has happened during service that could/would get worse over time. A Condition that happened DUE to service. And its the Government's way of keeping to the promise that it will take care of medical conditions recorded during service.
2. You picked a "couple" articles that the Administration AGREED with the GOP push on specific cuts?
Pretty weak, Including the fact that you said Barry didnt want to Compromise. (His Budget of 2011 had more CUTS than the GOP proposal, but it never left the House?)
BTW-DEA,FBI, DoE have already been getting Chopped at.
And the Debt Ceiling debacle was caused by who?
Paul Ryan is a Social Security Baby and has gotten his, but wants to End SS and Medicare, BTW.
i posted a quote from each link you posted...
and recall when obama called bush unpatriotic for raising the debt ceiling
July 3, 2008: Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic - YouTube
so the hypocrisy flows both ways clearly.
barry's other budget of 2011 was rejected 97-0 (or was that 2010 i forget)...which indicates to me his compromising skills are not his best suite.
regardless, i disagree with cutting vet bennys, bad business
His Compromising skills are fine. He's "tried" to compromise. He'd agree with a GOP postion and they would do a 180.
It's the extreme GOP opposition to ANYTHING he goes for thats the problem.
Budget- GOP was for 2 trillion in cuts and 400 bil in tax raises, Obama agreed- they said No deal
Payroll tax cut extention for a year - GOP was for it, then they said No deal.
Increase in troops in AFG- GOP said do it, president does, then they say it was a bad idea
The list goes on. It's a fucking circus.
Blaming Barry's compromising for the actions of 535 different adults is insane.
Especially when a couple hundred of them were voted in on the platform of " I Hate Obama"
lol how many were voted in during the 2008 congressional elections on the "i hate bush" platform??
barry poisoned the system when he got elected and made disparaging comments across the asile, you've heard them all before i won't bother repeating them.
then he steamrolled congress with obamacare and the stimulus...the man never had to work with reps like clinton did as governor of a red state, his historic jolt from frosh senator to the big house stunted his political accumen imo.
his 2011budget added 1.5 trillion to the debt, on top of the years already huge 1.6 trill debt accumulated over the year...thank god the gop wasn't for it, your grandkids will thank them
the gop wanted the payroll tax cut to be paid for via cuts elsewhere, not attached to the debt...the dems said no, and so the gop reneged...
the afghan troop surge, supported by some GOP folks, came with a promise to then wind down in afghanistan, prompting some gop bros to question the point of adding more troops while at the same time annoucing the war would soon before...providing the taliban the option to just wait it out.
still other gop'ers questioned if we could afford this measure...and libs questioned the continuation of the war as well.
i admit i'm a bit of an idelouge (terrible sp lol) but getting obama fans to ever admit the man has faults is pointless you rever the man as flawless it seems.
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props to 60 minutes for running this first. But why isn't this splashed all over every single god damn news media outlet? Why is Jon Stewart is the only guy other than 60 minutes who really picks up and runs with shit like this?
While i'm utterly disgusted with both dems and reps for taking part in this, why are the republicans stonewalling the efforts to cut down on this? It would seem a "perfect" issue for them to take up and run with cause they're always bitching about the ineffectiveness and general incompetence of the govt....even though they're half the problem but i digress, lols.
The corruption going on in washington is breathtaking. We honestly need to take a good hard look at dissolving the union if this is how the Federal govt is going to work. Withdraw from the world and rebuild something we can actually hold up to the rest of teh world as some sort of general template for how to get shit done "RIGHT". Right now...this is bullshit. Top to bottom this doesn't work. Not govt, not our free market...nothin works. There has to be a restructuring of almost our entire society so that this kind of BS can never surface again.
props to 60 minutes for running this first. But why isn't this splashed all over every single god damn news media outlet? Why is Jon Stewart is the only guy other than 60 minutes who really picks up and runs with shit like this?
While i'm utterly disgusted with both dems and reps for taking part in this, why are the republicans stonewalling the efforts to cut down on this? It would seem a "perfect" issue for them to take up and run with cause they're always bitching about the ineffectiveness and general incompetence of the govt....even though they're half the problem but i digress, lols.
The corruption going on in washington is breathtaking. We honestly need to take a good hard look at dissolving the union if this is how the Federal govt is going to work. Withdraw from the world and rebuild something we can actually hold up to the rest of teh world as some sort of general template for how to get shit done "RIGHT". Right now...this is bullshit. Top to bottom this doesn't work. Not govt, not our free market...nothin works. There has to be a restructuring of almost our entire society so that this kind of BS can never surface again.
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