New here.....got a motocross question

[rutdipper]

Hey guys, new here...great site with awesome info!

I did a search a found a few motocross related questions like mine but didn't quite find the answer I was looking for.

First off I have been racing motocross most of my life, at the highest level for a few years now. I'm in my early 20's and am a small guy 5'7 160lbs. A few years ago I began taking Dbols and anadrol, the doses I take are small enough from what I've heard to probly be considered a waste, but it works for me....I'm not looking to get huge, I'm just looking for some added strength and muscle and help in recovery which so far hs been working great. But to get to my main question is I Started getting really bad arm pump. I've tried cutting even more down on my dose (which is hardly anything) and still get it. my fitness is good which is normally a big cause of arm pump and I also get plenty of time on the bike.

So basically my main question is there any way to take Dbol/Anadrol and not get arm pump? if not is there any other suggestions? I kno the simple answer is to not take anything....but considering my size I notice a big improvement in my strength and being able to muscle the bike around when needed...like when things get sketchy! Lol

Any help is appriciated!

Thanks

 

[training700]

Switch maybe to anavar since seem to like an oral only.

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[hydez27]

I would probably drop the anadrol and just run the dbol and see how that goes

 

[C0LUMB0]

Good food and hard work in the gym is all you need .
drol ,dbol or any other compound is not the solution to needing size and strength for your sport brother.

read this : http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html

 

[stevesmi]

AAS is used by bodybuilders to help build mass. you want to be a better motorcross or whatever driver then practice more. roids isn't gonna turn you into a champion man.

 

[BLM Shot]

The whole AAS is only for body builders is strange to me. He said he is taking low doses to aid in recovery and it is working for him. High level motocross get beat the F up. AAS is used in all kinds of sports including motorcross and it helps high level athletes. They even use AAS in cycling, mostly it is EPO (I know, not AAS), but in the off-season they cycle AAS. I know a mountain biker that used low doses and he started crushing it and bounced back from injuries way faster.

If AAS was only for BBers it wouldn't be in every sport and improving the athletes in every sport.

They are PED, it will increase his performance. It will shorten recovery. He will place better on than off.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ you missed my point.

i'm saying you get better as a motorcross driver by practicing and having the necessary skills. AAS is not gonna turn you into a champion. I'm not saying it can't be used to help a person recover etc.

its like people who think taking roids will turn them into Jay Cutler or Tom Brady. you need the talent and hard work to get there. steroids are not a magic pill. i'm not bashing the OP i am just letting him know this, he probably already knows this (i hope) but you never know the magic benefits people expect

hope you understand better now and I would think you would agree with this too

i used to be an endurance athlete myself and i laugh at guys who want to juice to get faster times. you want to get faster times, you RUN. thats the only way. taking roids and watching mtv with a beer in your hand all afternoon isn't gonna make you faster. just like if you want to be a better ballroom dancer, then practice dancing. taking roids and then wishing it to improve you at a certain finite skill doesn't work.

i fully expect in another 5 years we will hear people come on here and ask if they can take roids to become better at warcraft video games or whatever. thats the society we live in today, take a drug for everything

 

[BLM Shot]

OK, I got ya Steve. I agree 100% BTW a juiced up ballroom dancer would be entertaining. LOL

He did say he is at the highest level of motorcross now. Being at the highest level, he has skills. Weather it be just great talent and genes or hard work and dedication or some combo or all- he is there.

With that said, would a little AAS give him an advantage over, let's say, the guy he keeps finishing either right in front of or right in back of. So he is on par with this other guy. Now, he takes AAS- will he have the advantage more now than before?

Also, I am aware of your running background. I myself use to run marathons and half marathons. Not competitively, but yeah- runners that think AAS will help....well, they have a big surprise coming. BTW, do miss the running at all?

 

[shavas]

I used to race motocross as well in pro class so know how debilitating a bad arm pump can be in a race. You're probably getting it from having extra blood volume in your body causing the pump to come on sooner and stronger. How is your blood pressure? It's probably gone up some. You could try donating some blood to reduce some blood volume which could help for the pump. I know some guys who do HRT do that every 6 months or so to get rid of extra blood and RBC's. Or try swtiching to a milder steroid.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ i still run but i developed injuries so i cannot put in very much mileage. i used to be clocking in at 45 miles per week.. yes i miss the competition, i miss the last quarter mile trying to catch the person ahead of you.. bodybuilding you pretty much compete with yourself, unless you want to go on stage or enter a lifting competition... right now I compete against the mirror lol.

AAS will give him some advantage in some areas, but also some disadvantages. i would think the higher RBC would cause him to hurt his endurance a bit, and the pumps could hurt him as well.. i know when i run on dbol my calves start getting pumps at half a mile, so not sure if his arms would start bothering him as well the same way? ... i'm not an expert in motorcross though .. its probably a good idea for him to try low doses and see if it makes a difference, there is also the supression issue when you cycle off to deal with. so if he is a year round competitor that will be a problem.