I disagree about injectable tren enth being more toxic than oral anadrol as well. I've had my blood checked while on 50mg/day of winny or dbol and the values were all-around worse than on 600mg/week of tren enth. Not that they were ever outside of normal, or not by much, but the orals definitely had the worst effect. And if you're not using such a high dose like 600mg/week I would say tren is certainly less toxic. Mine is only my personal experience and viewpoint though, however much it is backed up by bloodwork, it is still only one case among thousands. That being said, I much prefer dbol over anadrol for pretty much everything. The sides are lower and more controllable, it gives me better pumps and strength gains at a lower dosage, and it's cheaper. But I'm a weird case... b/c honestly, the last cycle I ran, I used only 20mg/day of oral winny and got ridiculous strength gains and pumps. I actually prefer winny to dbol in that respect, but it doesn't give me the size, just the strength and hardness. Terrible on the lipid profile though, so I do not use more than 20mg/day now.