Top Ten Creationist Arguments Part 1 and 2

[javaguru]

lol Damn I thought that was an original thought in my head. That wasnt directed just at java so much but all the arrogant know nothing atheists btw...there are a cpl on here

Interesting....copied and saved for future reference.

 

[puddlemonkey]

don't take the bait!

 

[javaguru]

lol @ clutter being one or two threads that stay there by being bumped by yourself and others.

That's the great thing about the internet forums....I can choose to not click on a thread and even if I click on a thread by accident I can still avoid it by not reading it or watching the youtube; I'm giving you two chances to voluntarily engage the material. I avoid about 99% of threads on EF because I choose to NOT click on them.

So, I'll ask you...who is the "real troll"...the person that posts a thread or the person that can't help but respond to a thread they consider a "troll" tread and makes it thread of the week because they choose to post in it over and over?

Back in usenet days...circa 1995 it was always a sticky to "not feed the trolls" but human nature is what it is.... they were guaranteed to be a popular thread.

I think this is the most informative post in the thread.

 

[javaguru]

If that is the case, then this dude had/has Joan Crawford for a mother. Did you ever see "Mommy Dearest"? Yikes!

He's engaging in internet douchebaggery....loll. I must hate religion because I was raised in a fundamentalist household; Of course as a teenager I resisted being told what to do by my parents but I went to church because it was expected and I still go to church with my mother when I visit her over twenty years after I became an adult as my own choice; I schedule an Easter visit for her. I have also gone to church with every jesusy chick I've dated voluntarily because it was important to them and it sure beats going to the mall with them. So, the idea that non belief means you "hate" what you don't believe in is fundamentally ridiculous....religion is a social issue and nothing more.

 

[bigpokey]

quite the cocksucker of a thread we got here..... i dont mind jg's vids they're not all trash, if there was logical and rational youtube videos of the christian argument (unpossible) im sure there'd be someone to whore those vids here too.... cindy i dont really get your "new christianity"..... ur take on christianity is so different than any other christian ive come across, i like it in a lot of ways, think ur an intelligent and moral (sweet) person, and find ur arguments much less offensive than most jesus freaks... but like i dunno you're take on being christian is just weird, like more of a spiritualist or some shit.... could u break down ur christianity a lil further in the the absolutes u believe in...(e.g. askin jesus into your heart saves u no matter what?, did jesus walk on water?, jonah got swallowed by a whale? people go to hell no matter what if they dont ask jesus in their heart?)... what exactly makes u a christian? i know u don't believe in the strict literal interpretation of the bible so im guessin most christians would say you're not a true christian... im definitely not an atheist, but im def not a christian, i do believe in "god" or "energy" or "supreme power" or some kinda ultimate shit but i don't see how anyone could believe the key to everything ever of all time is in the bible, why would it be in one book? what about he people in the world that can't read and have never been in contact with a christian? they just automatically go to hell never havin a shot?

i dont agree with richard dawkins on everything but his main argument is we live in a logical world where we can explain almost everything with science and reasoning, why would god be so irrational and illogical?

im so fukn fogged wtf am i talkin bout... no foggin clue

 

[mrplunkey]

I think this is the most informative post in the thread.

Well I'm shocked that you'd like your own post the best. As humble and down-to-Earth as you are, I'd think you would choose another merely to show your open mindedness.

Here's my favorite post:

You know that was *exactly* the message the creators of SP were sending when they made that scene, correct? The show is stupid and superficial in many ways, but they often embed a deeper message about society as well.

 

[cindylou]

loll pokey all fogged up Of course not all of his videos are shit...I wouldn't say any of them have been shit beisdes the one that started this thread...lol silly.

I am a regular Christian. This idea that all Christians are young earth creationist bible literalists is just not true! We live in two realms the spirit and the natural...religion is pure flesh. Outside of that, if you wanted to label me, label me a Baptist. Jesus does not come into your heart...lol but the Holy Spirit does technically I guess...lol...I don't see how that is weird or different..idk if someone wants to say I'm not a true Christian I guess that's their problem, I agree with the important basics I guess...I go to a Baptist church right now.

I personally think Christianity to be probably true, and I can supplement my experiences with the Holy Spirit, and I can live assured with what I know to be true. Yes I believe Jesus walked on water and performed miracles. I trust the bible as far as its credibility about Jesus historically. I think that the bible can represent objective history. Anything outside of that is historical relativism which can be overcome if you think about it. Just because someone types something that sounds smart on a message board does not mean shit, really, or just because you think you learned something from someone smarter than you does not make it true either...where did they get their information, where are their biases and how was it taught to them and how have ideas about history changed over time? Have historians always always gone about their task the same way? The records on the life of Jesus were written in the first generation while the witnesses were still alive. I know human behavior and motivation. People don't lie when it does not benefit them and might kill them. About what the bible says…no, if people that can’t read and don’t know about Jesus, they don’t automatically die and go to hell…no. (Romans) No, I don’t believe in a 100% literal bible, it’s impossible to read that way for example there are not seven literal candlesticks in the book of Revelation…no one takes Daniel literally…etc but I still believe it to be 100% true. There is no reason to take the creation story literally (even if we did the bible never addresses the age of the earth or the universe)if we understand the context of who it was written to and when it was written. People miss points that are delivered through nuance and context they read things that are not there...like young earth creationism and dinosaurs living with humans. There is just nothing in there that says that. The bible also has paradoxes, which do not make sense to the common mind. Jesus said, "to save your life you must lose it," that doesn't make sense to the natural mind but in the spirit it makes all the sense in the world. Those are my personal beliefs. Holy fuggin long paragraph. Sorry if you made it this far. Good thing I can type quickly

 

[miplank]

This thread fuckin sucks

 

[javaguru]

Cindy voluntarily attended a church with a creation education center..just sayin'.

 

[cindylou]

lol! What the hell? You are unbelievable. Everyone here knows you are full of shit most of the time. Which one of your parents beat you as a child again?