First time want to try steroid..

[Nopain-Nogain]

Hi I'm 39yrs, 176cm, 80kg bf~12. I want to get more lean muscle n work on definishion n achieve ripped midsection. Not convinced to get mass, thinking that at my age maintaining huge muscle would be a challenge. At my Gym, friends taking Sustanon > Masteron > Tren cycles. I learnt frm this forum along with mass gains with Sustanon, body fat would raise. Can I try masteron alone? Need any testE with masteron? How long n how much to take? Wht PCT to follow? Honestly I gain this least knwledge after having gone thru few threads in this forum. My appreciation to all those who contributed! Hoping you guys would help me as well.

 

[stevesmi]

read a lot more into research. you want someone to come up with a cycle and PCT for you.

what you need to do is come up with your own through research, then come back with a plan and we will help you.

lets start with a basic cycle of maybe dbol for 4 weeks or test for 10 weeks. low dose to get your feet wet.

you don't need to be stacking 3 things together or use tren right now. rome wasn't build overnight

also do you know how to workout? how to eat?

 

[Nopain-Nogain]

ThnQ. I hv learnt hw to wrkout n following fr the past 12 yrs. Hv adopted good eating habits. I target around 200grm protein n 180-200 grm Carb, 35-40grm fats each day. eat atleast 5 times. Wrking out atleast 5 days/wk. In the past 4 months seriously trng, my weight went frm 76 to 80, while getting my midsection in shape. Supplmnts whey protein/isolate + Amino Acid + creatine. Once in while try HGH booste,test booster, NO,etc. I feel my upper body is bigger thn my lower. So I do high rep for upper body(15) n med rep ( 10-12) with more volumes fr legs. Can squat (smith m/c) 120 kg fr min 8 rep. Sorry fr the long story, was trying to give U some idea. I hv read some of Ur threads, asking a beginner not to tk Deca but Dbol n so on.. Btw, I hv been reading n understd the profile of most of the steroids that was spoken in this forum. Until last week I was scared to try AAS due to their side effects. thot GH injections are safe. Only last week I got to knw the cost of (so called cheapest) GH Keifei, n realized can't fit my budget fr long run. I'll surely try your advice..but Undrstnd D-bol affects libido, so need take TestE as well. Pls offend/ scold me if U thnk I'm irritating, but pls guide me. I want to come up! Some how!!

 

[RADAR]

Steve is right ,you won't learn anything having information spoon fed to you.I did my research here for 2 years before i touched anything.

 

[stevesmi]

but Undrstnd D-bol affects libido, so need take TestE as well.!!

any AAS will effect libido one way or another. and even in situations you might get one effect and then on another cycle another effect. has to do with a lot of different factors, from receptors to underdosed oils. thats the risk you take, but an experienced user can spot trouble and correct them.. a newb will compound the problem and make it worse. so thats why its essential you research more.

I would run 20mg dbol ED for 4 weeks, run an AI sparingly during. and run unleashed/post cycle for PCT. then you can run an injectable cycle the 2nd time.

that should work for you.. I PM'd you more info

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

So we are telling an obviously uneducated person that is concerned with basically lean gains and fat burning that he should start with Dbol and Test E? A he is going to hate the water gain, hes not going to know how to dose an AI correctly, and he is going to not get the results he wants. Now he COULD but he would have to have the perfect diet and workout program with Cardio included. If it were me, I dont think Dbol is exactly the best thing for him to be starting out with, even Beastdrol would be a leaner kickstart for him. Just a thought if we are going to tell this guy to start with multiple compounds, for his goals he wants, I dont think dbol and test e are the right way to go.

But I still think we should be pinning down his diet and training before any of that.

-Legacy

 

[Nopain-Nogain]

Bros..a lot of new and GOOD info indeed fr me..I'm excited. Thnks fr the inputs. Juz read thru some reviews abt beastdrol.. Mostly it sound like slow n steady gains. I dun want to look bloated with lot of water. Due to my knee problem (wear n tear.. Sorry cant remember the medical term.. Anyway its not as serious as ligament or tendon injury) High intensity cardio is a challenge fr me on treadmil or Xtrainer. Static bike n step mill are my friendly machines to shed fat. After cleaning up diet, incorporating 20mins HI cardio thrice a wk, i just manage to see 4 cuts on my abs. I 'm quite satisfied with my 39" chest n 14"bis( At this point...atleast). I want more cutting on my upper body. Jus got some mass on my legs. Atleast improved frm chicken legs (thats hw my close frens... who have seen me whn I'm chnging frm jeans to track pants comment on me) At this point, I dun want huge mass to further challenge my knee. I m quite convinced on trying beastdrol. Is 20mg ED advisable? 4 weeks cycle! How much n whn to start PCT?. For PCT, Nolva 10mg or clomid (dosage not sure bro)

 

[Arabian]

read a lot more into research. you want someone to come up with a cycle and PCT for you.

what you need to do is come up with your own through research, then come back with a plan and we will help you.

lets start with a basic cycle of maybe dbol for 4 weeks or test for 10 weeks. low dose to get your feet wet.

you don't need to be stacking 3 things together or use tren right now. rome wasn't build overnight

also do you know how to workout? how to eat?

Great advice Steve.....

 

[Judo Tom]

whats your stats? age? ht/wt? bf? etc etc

 

[Nopain-Nogain]

Hi I'm 39yrs, 176cm, 80kg bf~12. I want to get (1) more lean muscle, (2) beef up my legs (3) ripped midsection