Need some help regarding first cycle

[IceIzNoble]

Hi, new member here.

I've been working out for 3 years and I am 21 years old, i've researched and taken quite a few supplements which have given me good gains over the past few years (Whey, Creatine, L-Glut., L-Arg.). I'm 5'9 and my original weight was 141 lbs at 13% BF, I am now 185 lbs at 15%. I am finding it very difficult to gain more mass and have reached a plateau. My diet is 4000+ with a balanced macronutrient composition (~50:30:20). I am considering carrying out my first cycle, I plan to:

Dbol - 30mg E.D - Week 1 - 4
Test E - 500mg E.W - Week 2 - 6 *
Arimidex - 1mg E.D - Week 2 - 6
Nolvadex - 20mg E.D - Week 6 - 9

* The only thing I am unsure about is, since I am 21 will I still need to take the Test E or is my body producing enough testosterone in the first place.

Thanks

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Hi, new member here.

I've been working out for 3 years and I am 21 years old, i've researched and taken quite a few supplements which have given me good gains over the past few years (Whey, Creatine, L-Glut., L-Arg.). I'm 5'9 and my original weight was 141 lbs at 13% BF, I am now 185 lbs at 15%. I am finding it very difficult to gain more mass and have reached a plateau. My diet is 4000+ with a balanced macronutrient composition (~50:30:20). I am considering carrying out my first cycle, I plan to:

Dbol - 30mg E.D - Week 1 - 4
Test E - 500mg E.W - Week 2 - 6 *
Arimidex - 1mg E.D - Week 2 - 6
Nolvadex - 20mg E.D - Week 6 - 9

* The only thing I am unsure about is, since I am 21 will I still need to take the Test E or is my body producing enough testosterone in the first place.

Thanks

If your going to cycle, Yes you need some sort of test as a base, but at 21 and according to your stats you haven't hit a plateau. you just need to alter your diet, and maybe a routine.

But if you insist on cycling, you need to run the test e for at least 10 weeks, id recommend 12. and start the test from day 1 not week 2

My cycle for you would go like this

1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg/eod

PCT

14 100mg Clomid/ed
15 75mg Clomid/ed
16 75mg Clomid/ed
17 50mg/Clomid/ed

OSL

 

[Flash421]

Your body is producing alot of test on it's own not as much as if your injecting 500mg a week lol

But great first cycle it's good to see some1 doing there homework! I would just suggest running test for 10 weeks and maybe drop the nolvadex and replace with clomid

And get some post cycle and unleashed....hcgenerate or hcg and forma stanzol

 

[Flash421]

And yes start test from day 1 I completly over looked that

 

[IceIzNoble]

I've altered my routine various times as well as my diet. It's probably possible for me to gain but its become really difficult. Also, I heard that cycling with dbol alone leads to temporary gains and that test e is required to make it permanent, is this true?
I know the temporary gains part has something to do with water retention but i've tried searching for the intuition behind test e making gains permanent but haven't been able to come across it. Anyone care to explain?

Thanks,
IcE

 

[ugcanada]

decent looking cycle

 

[Nelson Montana]

Way too much test for a first cycle.

 

[RADAR]

You have enough test in your blood to gain another 30 lbs,once you starting adding test at your age your body stops producing test and theres no going back, wait until you're abit older, I trained a kid your age whithin 3 Yrs he went from 135 at 6 ft to 275 and his bench press is now in the mid 470's....all natural. Build a base like that so when you do your first cycle one one will be able to touch you.
But.........Its your body and your call!

 

[Gamer2Be08]

You have enough test in your blood to gain another 30 lbs,once you starting adding test at your age your body stops producing test and theres no going back, wait until you're abit older, I trained a kid your age whithin 3 Yrs he went from 135 at 6 ft to 275 and his bench press is now in the mid 470's....all natural. Build a base like that so when you do your first cycle one one will be able to touch you.
But.........Its your body and your call!

I agree 100%.

Besides, the cycle that you wrote is not that great. IMO.
Test should be ran longer..

 

[Nelson Montana]

I agree 100%.

Besides, the cycle that you wrote is not that great. IMO.
Test should be ran longer..

Couldn't disagree more. Test becomes suppressive after a few weeks. After 12 weeks you're shut down -- not a good place to be, especially for a beginner.