It's Official: SUV owners survive crashes 50% better

[mrplunkey]

i think you might have gas guzzler tax and fuel economy standards mixed up a bit

You are splitting hairs over the definition of a government penalty for not meeting a standard and a tax for not doing what the government wants.

Bottom line: bigger cars that don't meet government standards will still be around. Only wealthier people will have them because the government has artificially driven-up the price.

 

[nimbus]

So if ford tells dot to screw themselves, and that they will produce the mpg goals they want instead of their standard, what exactly are the ramifications?

IRS goes after them

 

[nimbus]

Bottom line: bigger cars that don't meet government standards will still be around. Only wealthier people will have them because the government has artificially driven-up the price.

that's not the case; manufacturers meet the cut off and avoid the tax for all but the most expensive and highest performance vehicles. only wealthy people were going to own those cars anyway.

 

[mrplunkey]

IRS goes after them

Answer: they get a bill from the government that must be passed on to consumers.

 

[nimbus]

i never expressed support for the guzzler tax, just think it's funny that you blame obama for it. didn't hear you complain about it while repubs were in office

 

[mrplunkey]

i never expressed support for the guzzler tax, just think it's funny that you blame obama for it. didn't hear you complain about it while repubs were in office

I'm complaining about escalating the use of fuel efficiency standards to create artificial markets for cars that consumers don't want and that are less safe. It's a retarded idea, regardless of administration.

What's new are two elements: First, we now know for a fact that bigger, SUV-style cars are safer. Second, despite this knowledge we'll still try to force consumers into less safe cars.

Consumers should be able to make their own choices, balancing fuel economy, safety, convenience, luxury, and a whole host of other factors into buying a car -- without government "help". That's not a super-radical idea.

 

[PICK3]

I'm complaining about escalating the use of fuel efficiency standards to create artificial markets for cars that consumers don't want and that are less safe. It's a retarded idea, regardless of administration.

What's new are two elements: First, we now know for a fact that bigger, SUV-style cars are safer. Second, despite this knowledge we'll still try to force consumers into less safe cars.

Consumers should be able to make their own choices, balancing fuel economy, safety, convenience, luxury, and a whole host of other factors into buying a car -- without government "help". That's not a super-radical idea.

what about easy rear entry

 

[mrplunkey]

what about easy rear entry

That should have $25,000 tax on it. Those people have a higher risk of anal tears, so this negative externality must be incorporated into the price of the car.

 

[cindylou]

SUV's are better than they used to be (now with ESC)

still better chance of surviving in a minivan

Yeah, I have this thing. I will never own a minivan. My mom drove me around in one of those!

 

[miplank]

Yeah, I have this thing. I will never own a minivan. My mom drove me around in one of those!

I hear this shit all the time and it always makes me laugh. Won't drive a minivan even though you have a family and it's the most practical way to go. Instead buy a gas guzzling SUV with inferior safety ratings to haul your precious cargo around because you think you're still too young to look like a "soccer mom" even though that is exactly what you are.



FYI- this is directed to ALL mothers that say that.