Should I take gear?

[alwayzquikwayout]

Dude,,, your lifting wicked!!! Your Natty Test is Thru the roof!! Dont mess with your endocrine system now,,, Do it in ur late twenties, early thirties,, THATS WHEN U'll need it!!! i'll be 30 this \june and I need it....... Like fo example; Doctors refrain from prescribing Antibiotics TOO OFTEN,, cause your body becomes resistant to it if you medicate yourself too often,, Docs prefer that your body heals its self if it can. Your age is perfect for your body doing it naturally!! Here's some natural stuff too INCREASE TEST,,,, i copy paste for u

There are drugs available to treat this but natural dietary methods are a good place to start.
Many vegetables are high in estrogen like chemicals and these need to be avoided. Instead men should try and maximize their intake of vegetables rich in Indole 3 carbinol (I3C). I3C shuts down the system in a man's body that produces "bad estrogen" and switches up the production of "good estrogens" that are converted to testosterone. The vegetables that are rich in I3C are the dark green leafy ones, broccoli, kale, cabbage and Brussels sprouts. In fact all vegetables from the cruciferous group contain high levels of I3C.
The diet should be high in zinc, which is obtained primarily from meat. Vegetarians have to eat a large amount of peanuts, beans and pumpkin seeds to obtain zinc; it is not as easily absorbed from vegetable sources as from meat. Zinc is vital for male sexual function. The meat does not have to red meat, chicken, salmon, and shellfish such as oysters are all good sources.
Vitamin A is important in testosterone production. Good sources of this in a healthy diet are the dark green leafy vegetables, salmon, and red and orange fruits and vegetables.
Salmon has an added benefit in that it reduces a chemical in the blood stream called sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). When testosterone encounters SHBG in the blood it is effectively mopped up and taken out of circulation.


BOOM ther u go homey!!! Vitamin A???? Who knew eh? Zinc i already knew about!!!! DIM supp which is IC3 basically is Wicked, I just discovered it recently, now I tell my gf to cook mad broccoli and greens,,, more so than the MEAT actually..

Do a forum search on "HC Generate" I know it got ZINC and other inportant things; Zinc important bro with sleep and also improves ur immune system!!

my 2cents become a PRO on natural Supp's,,,, then u'll be a better Pro with GEAR,,,,, BOOM ther u go!!!!

 

[jester72]

Thank you zedhed and ohwow for the info. If it really is too early for me when do you think the very earliest I could start without such serious risks? Before 21?

I was a high school football standout, who years ago played NCAA D-1 football. I was 6'7 305lbs, and in the 11% body fat range. I ran a 5.0 second 40 yard dash, benched 500+, machine leg pressed 1200, had quads like tree trunks, and almost 20in biceps. I was a defensive tackle, and I averaged 65% of defensive time every game on the field. My final year, I won a major New Years Day bowl game. I worked my ass of from the day I entered high school at age 14 for that opportunity, and I don't regret a second of it. That 1 championship ring was the fulfillment of a lifetime. I was damn good, but as good as I was, NOWHERE near pro material.

Now bro, here's the IMPORTANT part. Outside of over the counter supplements, creatine, vitamins, etc. I NEVER USED GEAR! I learned diet, workout, supplements, and good old work ethic. What you need to understand, is that right now, you have the best thing in the world going for you, ALL NATURAL TESTOSTERONE!!! Pick up a good fat burner/stim (Forged Burner), creatine (Ancient Strength), and even an insulin stabilizer like Need2Slin. Work out religiously, FEED those muscles properly with a solid clean diet, and DON'T EVEN CONSIDER GEAR for another 7-8 years. I don't care how long you've worked out/trained, at 18 (going on 19) you are NOWHERE NEAR your muscular growth potential yet. Although I'm by far no expert in the field of AAS (veterans chime in here), at such a young age you stand to do more permanent harm to yourself that any good.

 

[C.K.]

you can't come here and say you wanna be mr. olympia without posting pics and letting us decide

 

[stevesmi]

18 is a child in my book. you aren't even old enough to drink, get a rental car or even go on a cruise yet without parental supervision!

you have what 2 years of serious training under your belt? I didn't touch juice till i was 28/29.

not only did you break a rule asking for advice on AAS on this board, but now you want to argue with guys who have been doing this longer then you been alive. AAS is for people who get older and need that extra boost. we want our bodies to turn androgenic the way someone your age is, so that we can build muscle and recover quicker. we want our test levels to be high like your body produces it.

i recommend you wait till you are atleast 21 and preferably wait until 25. by then you would of built a base.

also i would like to know how an 18 year old who works for near minimum wage can afford to buy the food, supps, cycle, post cycle required. it makes no sense to even think about doing it. i make 6 figs a year and i still don't like shelling out all that money on what i need for a cycle, so i dunno how you can even think about it. i was making a nickel above minimum wage 5.20 per hour back then when i was your age lol .. i think in 6 months working partime i made like 500 bucks.

 

[goldie123]

you can't come here and say you wanna be mr. olympia without posting pics and letting us decide

Yer good call! Lets see some pics dude!

 

[zedhed]

the typical male body does not reach physical maturity till the late 20- mid 30s.
Check out the ages of a good percentage of Power lifters bro. That coinicides with my statement.

 

[CheapPinz]

my personal opinion is: 1. teenagers and even early 20s should be finetuning their diet, exercise, and lifestyle and not even beginning to worry about taking any enhancing compounds. 2. one's physique changes over years of dedicated training. I see a noticeable difference between an early 20s fit, muscular physique, and a 42 year old with solid, dense muscle that's been formed over years and years of training. 3. men >30 years old have a legitimate ability to be prescribed testosterone because as we age, testosterone production decreases...therefore supplementation to a normal healthy male level is a legitimate request.

 

[Essie]

Bro ... best bet ... stick all natty ( natural) until at least, AT THE VERY LEAST, 25. I have trained natty since 17, and I only started using AAS 16 years after that ... which gave me a hell of a lot more training exposure than you have. I was not as lucky as you to have such a big frame, bone structure or bone-muscle composition as you would have according to your description of yourself. I had to eat clean and train hard to reach a natural weight of only 160lbs ... and I am 5'11". It took me another couple of years with using AAS in a moderate and controlled manner to gain to 205lbs, but then I had just over 15% BF. I have been dieting like crazy lately and I am on 194lbs now, quite a bit leaner and cleaner ... and I am a bit over 30 years old (wink-wink).

You are at the prime of your life now, for at least the next 6 years as well where your body naturally produces more testosterone than I can get into mine exogenously ... use that to your advantage, don't mess it all up by now suddenly making your body used to test coming from other sources and then sit with a 'lazy to produce test on my own' syndrome when you're older, please Bro, listen to all the advice you are receiving here ... it really is for your own good.

 

[LightWeight918]

18 is a child in my book. you aren't even old enough to drink, get a rental car or even go on a cruise yet without parental supervision!

you have what 2 years of serious training under your belt? I didn't touch juice till i was 28/29.

not only did you break a rule asking for advice on AAS on this board, but now you want to argue with guys who have been doing this longer then you been alive. AAS is for people who get older and need that extra boost. we want our bodies to turn androgenic the way someone your age is, so that we can build muscle and recover quicker. we want our test levels to be high like your body produces it.

i recommend you wait till you are atleast 21 and preferably wait until 25. by then you would of built a base.

also i would like to know how an 18 year old who works for near minimum wage can afford to buy the food, supps, cycle, post cycle required. it makes no sense to even think about doing it. i make 6 figs a year and i still don't like shelling out all that money on what i need for a cycle, so i dunno how you can even think about it. i was making a nickel above minimum wage 5.20 per hour back then when i was your age lol .. i think in 6 months working partime i made like 500 bucks.

Lol I work part time just on the weekends and make $8.00/hr and in two weeks I make $200. So I'm sure he will be able to afford it.

 

[stevesmi]

Lol I work part time just on the weekends and make $8.00/hr and in two weeks I make $200. So I'm sure he will be able to afford it.

yeah and you must live with your parents.. how immoral is it to live with your parents and use all your money on steroids? i have no idea, not my business how anyone spends their money.. but i do feel its moronic IMO. when i was 18 i was saving my money for college, not spending it on roids. should be spending your late teens chasing chicks and trying to get laid, leave the roids for the adults...you are already horny at that age, might as well take advantage of it. to each his own though.