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majutsu
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*sigh*
is it an "off-day" again, 2thick?
At least this is more logical than your old fallacious argument about different actions on the AR receptors . . .
Looking at some of your alternatives to test for a newb:
1)primo - ha ha! a newb buying primo is likely to end up doing low-dose test and you know it. (fakes, fakes, everywhere. . . ) In theory, great, but not very safe practically for a newb. Test or deca least likely to be faked probably.
2)anavar-not bad, actually. And contrary to what others said, easy to find even domestic, with loeffler's good product and others. Not likely to get huge, or satisfy one with power-lifter leanings though
, but very appropriate for the high-school or college jock's first dip into cycles. Real selective for the AR receptor, and nice leaning-out effect. I'm starting to dig it too, ummmm with TEST.
3)d-bol - probably reasonable too, no needles, easy to find, good and cheap. As basic to high-school football as cheap-piss beer in kegs 2&3 appeal to the same crowd and don't use needles. d-bol would have sides, if dosed up, that could get very unpleasant.
4)eq-this is pretty good idea . . . but with the libido problems a little test very helpful to add. But this isn't a bad idea for a more hard-core newb cycle. There are alot of similarities between primo and eq in structure...
5)deca- the real reason you posted this I think you have stock in norma . . . test and deca work the same way on AR receptors through the same 2nd messenger system (IP3). So, it's all about the sides . . . With deca it seems like you keep more of your gains, but in reality it's just that more of what you see you get to keep (and this is pretty good!) With test (even 1mg arimidex ed) there is a lot of water retention, which pushes up your strength, but makes you feel a lot bigger than you really are . . . Test definitely harder on the hairline. Deca definitely harder on the libido in most folks at equally effective doses (300deca say compared to 500 test). In gyno, probably equal (i.e. not likely either way), but . . . if you get gyno with test, anti-es will help, but not with deca's progesterone gyno; there is no easy answer. So if the unlikely worst happens (i.e. the start of gyno) with test you have a fix, not so easy with deca. Both are about equal for acne. Recovery longer with deca, but since you didn't have super-human test levels for 8 wks, there's not so much of a psychological crash, but there is quite a physical crash with deca. The truth is, either deca or test at modest doses would make a nice first cycle, and it seems hard to recommend either one significantly over the other. But of course, deca is for pussies, so go with the test, because test is best!
is it an "off-day" again, 2thick?
At least this is more logical than your old fallacious argument about different actions on the AR receptors . . .
Looking at some of your alternatives to test for a newb:
1)primo - ha ha! a newb buying primo is likely to end up doing low-dose test and you know it. (fakes, fakes, everywhere. . . ) In theory, great, but not very safe practically for a newb. Test or deca least likely to be faked probably.
2)anavar-not bad, actually. And contrary to what others said, easy to find even domestic, with loeffler's good product and others. Not likely to get huge, or satisfy one with power-lifter leanings though
, but very appropriate for the high-school or college jock's first dip into cycles. Real selective for the AR receptor, and nice leaning-out effect. I'm starting to dig it too, ummmm with TEST. 3)d-bol - probably reasonable too, no needles, easy to find, good and cheap. As basic to high-school football as cheap-piss beer in kegs
2&3 appeal to the same crowd and don't use needles. d-bol would have sides, if dosed up, that could get very unpleasant.4)eq-this is pretty good idea . . . but with the libido problems a little test very helpful to add. But this isn't a bad idea for a more hard-core newb cycle. There are alot of similarities between primo and eq in structure...
5)deca- the real reason you posted this
I think you have stock in norma . . . test and deca work the same way on AR receptors through the same 2nd messenger system (IP3). So, it's all about the sides . . . With deca it seems like you keep more of your gains, but in reality it's just that more of what you see you get to keep (and this is pretty good!) With test (even 1mg arimidex ed) there is a lot of water retention, which pushes up your strength, but makes you feel a lot bigger than you really are . . . Test definitely harder on the hairline. Deca definitely harder on the libido in most folks at equally effective doses (300deca say compared to 500 test). In gyno, probably equal (i.e. not likely either way), but . . . if you get gyno with test, anti-es will help, but not with deca's progesterone gyno; there is no easy answer. So if the unlikely worst happens (i.e. the start of gyno) with test you have a fix, not so easy with deca. Both are about equal for acne. Recovery longer with deca, but since you didn't have super-human test levels for 8 wks, there's not so much of a psychological crash, but there is quite a physical crash with deca. The truth is, either deca or test at modest doses would make a nice first cycle, and it seems hard to recommend either one significantly over the other. But of course, deca is for pussies, so go with the test, because test is best!
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