Your nurses of the future.

[juiceddreadlocks]

I think that careers in health care are great job stability. The baby boom generation will get sick and die in my lifetime.....working in the health field will pretty much gaurantee that I can always find a job. My hope also that once I'm an RN I can work less normal 9-5 hours. I'd rather work 2-3 really long days at night. My main plan is to get this degree, finish up the last year of my other 2 BAs, and then keep going to school after that learning more about whatever catches my fancy.

we could be perfect for eachother actually.

im 21 hours (depending on what classes go as bio and chem elective credit)from graduating with an evolutionary biology degree
5 hours from a chem minor, and i dont know how many from my nutrition minor. in december im going to take the board exam for psg tech and begin to learn how to score studies. next december i should graduate with 175 or so hours and just continue on in undergrad degrees until ive been accepted into medical school, marry a descendant of sam walton, or have bio, chem, and FACS (to be come a dietician) degees.


and i work long nights too!!!!

do you wakeboard or water ski?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I think that careers in health care are great job stability. The baby boom generation will get sick and die in my lifetime.....working in the health field will pretty much gaurantee that I can always find a job. My hope also that once I'm an RN I can work less normal 9-5 hours. I'd rather work 2-3 really long days at night. My main plan is to get this degree, finish up the last year of my other 2 BAs, and then keep going to school after that learning more about whatever catches my fancy.

with physicians becoming more and more of a "yes" man due to HMO's and insurance costs, i forsee RNs (especially BSN candidates) to become more and more an intrical part of our healthcare system. Although, when the ANA gets APN's the right to prescribe scheduled drugs in all states without answering to a physician; the apocalypse will come and so we wont have to worry aobut that hopefully.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

with physicians becoming more and more of a "yes" man due to HMO's and insurance costs, i forsee RNs (especially BSN candidates) to become more and more an intrical part of our healthcare system. Although, when the ANA gets APN's the right to prescribe scheduled drugs in all states without answering to a physician; the apocalypse will come and so we wont have to worry aobut that hopefully.

It's a stretch to call docs "yes men", although no doubt, they are owned by HMO's and insurance companies. I think "insurance whores" is better than "yes men".

I do some work in pharma marketing and publish a well-known pharma journal. (over 1M copies a year) We hire a lot of doctors to write for us, and these guys love getting outside the clinical side for a while.

The drugs they prescribe, indeed the conditions they diagnose, are often at the hands of pharma companies. Pharma companies buy drug rating companies. HMOs use the lists from the rating companies to make sure their docs prescribe enough.

If the docs don't, the docs are out of the HMO group and out of work usually. Hence "insurance whores"; docs have to do what the HMO tells them to do, and the HMO does what the pharma company tells them. Pharma companies are stuck with insurers (and the government through Medicare) - so there's the sell-out right there. Docs need to diagnose what they are told - accurate or no - and prescribe what they are told.


The highest paid docs are plastic surgeons, by a mile. And they do elective operations - no insurance. Coincidence? I think not. As health care gets more expensive, HMOs will force doctors' salaries down. It's simple market economics...people love to disagree but the statsitics are plain as day on this.

If I were in medicine I'd be a nurse isntead of a doctor in a second. It's a cool career, and your nobody's bitch.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

It's a stretch to call docs "yes men", although no doubt, they are owned by HMO's and insurance companies. I think "insurance whores" is better than "yes men".

I do some work in pharma marketing and publish a well-known pharma journal. (over 1M copies a year) We hire a lot of doctors to write for us, and these guys love getting outside the clinical side for a while.

The drugs they prescribe, indeed the conditions they diagnose, are often at the hands of pharma companies. Pharma companies buy drug rating companies. HMOs use the lists from the rating companies to make sure their docs prescribe enough.

If the docs don't, the docs are out of the HMO group and out of work usually. Hence "insurance whores"; docs have to do what the HMO tells them to do, and the HMO does what the pharma company tells them. Pharma companies are stuck with insurers (and the government through Medicare) - so there's the sell-out right there. Docs need to diagnose what they are told - accurate or no - and prescribe what they are told.


The highest paid docs are plastic surgeons, by a mile. And they do elective operations - no insurance. Coincidence? I think not. As health care gets more expensive, HMOs will force doctors' salaries down. It's simple market economics...people love to disagree but the statsitics are plain as day on this.

If I were in medicine I'd be a nurse isntead of a doctor in a second. It's a cool career, and your nobody's bitch.

i hear that, my favorite example is the over prescription of viagra for the first 9 months that it was out until it was linked to that heart problem.


maybe we can hurry up and subsidize health care.

the thing im really scared of is giving advanced practice nurses more power than they have. thats crap, less malpractice insurance, less overall training and nearly the same rights in many respects as physicians.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

i hear that, my favorite example is the over prescription of viagra for the first 9 months that it was out until it was linked to that heart problem.


maybe we can hurry up and subsidize health care.

the thing im really scared of is giving advanced practice nurses more power than they have. thats crap, less malpractice insurance, less overall training and nearly the same rights in many respects as physicians.

If we subsidize health care, there will be a quick spie in doctors' salaries, and once taxpayers realize the costs, thy will go crazy. Docs' salaries will plumet.

Nurses will rise until they get closer to docs, and then they will all fall. Translation: fewer docs. less qualified nurses. That's bad.

The situation with advanced practice nurses is economics. It's cheaper.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

If we subsidize health care, there will be a quick spie in doctors' salaries, and once taxpayers realize the costs, thy will go crazy. Docs' salaries will plumet.

Nurses will rise until they get closer to docs, and then they will all fall. Translation: fewer docs. less qualified nurses. That's bad.

The situation with advanced practice nurses is economics. It's cheaper.

i understand the situation with apn's and it really sux, that could be a big nail in the coffin for physicians. i just meant subsidize health care to control costs , not for physicians sake

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

i understand the situation with apn's and it really sux, that could be a big nail in the coffin for physicians. i just meant subsidize health care to control costs , not for physicians sake

If you want to control costs, step 1 is GET THE GOVERNMENT AWAY FROM IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

Docs should have high salaries. It's their reward for missing the first 30 years of life. And we want smart people in that line of work.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

If you want to control costs, step 1 is GET THE GOVERNMENT AWAY FROM IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

Docs should have high salaries. It's their reward for missing the first 30 years of life. And we want smart people in that line of work.

come on now matt, what do you think of canada?

 

[Testosterone boy]

a nurse is basically one step above a barmaid or stewardess

What do you do? Shine shoes?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

come on now matt, what do you think of canada?

health care up there is worse than ours. long waits for procedures you canhave here right away.

Cheaper drugs means less quality and less attentionfrom pharma R&D.

But I love the country.