stilleto said:And you know it, and the person lying to you knows it, but keeps trying to keep that charade up that its the truth, even though you're like, "LOOK, we BOTH know you're lying, STOP digging yourself in deeper!!" but they keep it up anyway?
GOD Thats infuriating.
Smurfy said:kick them in the nuts and be on your merry way
jack_schitt said:Did you call the person out on the lie? I'd be like "WTF? Seriously"?
stilleto said:Of course. with proof.
to no avail.![]()
ok goodstilleto said:i forgive you.![]()
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Smurfy said:is it a kid? lol kids love to lie and they're not very good at it.
everybody lies , its just some chose to live their entire life that waystilleto said:do they grow up into lying adults or does that change you think?
Smurfy said:kick them in the nuts and be on your merry way
Yeah. A chick with a huge set of cajones.awittyusername said:You dumb ass!
Stilleto said they repeatedly lied, and refused to admit it after everyone finding out it was obviously a lie...
It is obviously a woman
you have to lead by example i guess and hope for the beststilleto said:do they grow up into lying adults or does that change you think?
ben hart said:I hate fucking liars! The only thing someone has is their word and their soul. Give those up and your fucked for life! Damn!
I live with need2.......so i must say I AGREEstilleto said:And you know it, and the person lying to you knows it, but keeps trying to keep that charade up that its the truth, even though you're like, "LOOK, we BOTH know you're lying, STOP digging yourself in deeper!!" but they keep it up anyway?
GOD Thats infuriating.
werd?velvett said:dejavu
Smurfy said:I like my Dad's line when I was growing up: "Don't fucking lie to me"
and then he never lied either so I learned well.
he lies to you>?Angel said:I live with need2.......so i must say I AGREE
jack_schitt said:My old mans line was a 2 x 4.
LOL no he would be ball lessSmurfy said:he lies to you>?
even worse than that!biteme said:Oh shit. Like Lorena Bobbitt?![]()
Angel said:even worse than that!
I dont care what size you are, i would eat you alivebiteme said:You told me how mean you were when you were little. I'd hate to piss you off. Little people are dangerous.![]()
Angel said:I dont care what size you are, i would eat you alive![]()
Ask needto how mean i am....His cousin is here to he will vouche i am not as sweet as I look

Definition of my ex husband ... I could read his body language, I would KNOW he wasn't telling the truth and he'd sit there and lie in my face, I eventually learned he'd NEVER budge, EVER ... so the incident would sort of "lodge" in the back of my mind. It NEVER failed eventually I'd find the truth out. The only way the SOB would ever confess was if I hit him with third party confirmation and THEN the person had to be in the roomstilleto said:And you know it, and the person lying to you knows it, but keeps trying to keep that charade up that its the truth, even though you're like, "LOOK, we BOTH know you're lying, STOP digging yourself in deeper!!" but they keep it up anyway?
GOD Thats infuriating.
musclemom said:Definition of my ex husband ... I could read his body language, I would KNOW he wasn't telling the truth and he'd sit there and lie in my face, I eventually learned he'd NEVER budge, EVER ... so the incident would sort of "lodge" in the back of my mind. It NEVER failed eventually I'd find the truth out. The only way the SOB would ever confess was if I hit him with third party confirmation and THEN the person had to be in the room![]()
Well, we know how that ended. Been my observation that people who lie and hold to the lie even when called on it will NEVER change. If you HAVE to deal with them, you basically never take anything they say at face value. So you become freaking sherlock holmes and a fact checker ...
They are people you cannot ever trust.
You know the old saying, "You knew I was a snake when you brought me in ..."
stilleto said:And you know it, and the person lying to you knows it, but keeps trying to keep that charade up that its the truth, even though you're like, "LOOK, we BOTH know you're lying, STOP digging yourself in deeper!!" but they keep it up anyway?
GOD Thats infuriating.

biteme said:Nearly all women say they hate liars, yet most of them are the biggest liars of all. What they really mean is I hate people that lie to me, but I can lie to whomever I want. Everyone lies. You couldn't get thru life without telling a lie occasionally. It's the insecurity factor.
BIKINIMOM said:Sorry darlin -
Lying is NOT gender based.
I have four daughters. Only ONE is a fucking liar. The other three are like their mother and dont have that disease. But I will either kill the oldest or die making a WOMAN out of her.

BUBBLES said:![]()
so true, lying has no gender
BM good luck, but lying is a disease which cannot be cured sometimes![]()
BUBBLES said:![]()
so true, lying has no gender
BM good luck, but lying is a disease which cannot be cured sometimes![]()
biteme said:Liar.
BUBBLES said:does my statement hit too close to home ?
have you been telling porkies on EF more often than not?![]()
biteme said:Look at that list and swear on your dead relative's grave that you've never told one of those lies.

BIKINIMOM said:What list?
BUBBLES said:huh? you are getting a little agro here ...![]()
biteme said:LIES WOMEN TELL
by
Shanidar Cabaraban
No, this is not another male bashing session with me. Believe it or not, male bashing too has to be taken in moderation. In fact, this article is so far from male bashing because this piece will provide you an extraordinary insight into the intricate and most complex mind created by God - a woman’s mind.
Last week, we did a piece on lies men tell. In keeping with the concept of gender equality, we do this piece today. Men don’t have the monopoly with lies, you know. Not to brag, but women who have been known to be forthright and with sterling reputations resort to lying plenty of times. This goes back to the days when the Homo Erectus female, after being dragged by the hair by the male Homo Erectus (because he didn’t believe she was really washing her hair in the week since she’s disappeared) resorted to lying if only to stop him from making her bald. Over the years, men and women have evolved to cooking meat, developing weapons, wearing something else other than bark of the tree; the lies too have evolved. In fact, it has become a race for survival in this crazy little thing called relationship. Think of it this way, what is the objective behind the lies women tell? Simple: she doesn’t want to hurt her man’s feeling. Now, if a girl, lady, woman, or man pretending to be a woman tells you something like the list compiled below, bear in mind, she’s not really lying, she just doesn’t want to hurt your feelings.
1. Yes, you do kind of look like Piolo Pascual, especially with that haircut! The more handsome the actor, the more she loves you. So honey, if she tells you you look like Alex Compton at a certain angle, she must really be crazy about you.
biteme said:2. Of course I came, honey! Tons of times. I hate to be the bearer of sad tidings but the truth is most women fake it, hon. Explanation: Simply this. Not a lot of women are red hot fire engines who are capable of multiple orgasm. You know the old saying: Once is enough for a wise man? Well, we can edit some stuff there and say: Once is enough for any woman. If you have found a woman who can do that more than once, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT let her go. That appetite may come in handy during rainy season.
biteme said:3. You're the best lover I've ever had. Okay, this may sound a bit harsh but the truth is, men expect it from us women to say that. Just like we women expect that you men tell us we are not fat and that you aren’t seeing someone else. Men demand that we placate their feelings and inflate their egos by telling them this. And because we care and we are ever dutiful, we say it...but only because you want us to.
biteme said:4. Oh this? It's just something I threw on. (It's brand-new.) Most men are boggled with the concept that we normal women do not come out of our houses looking like amazing models because we were born that way. Beauty takes a lot of time, patience and shopping. So when we say, this old rag I put on for you, we actually mean, I bought it 3 hours ago. Compelling reason behind this lie: We don’t want you to think we primp, pluck and sweat for you.
biteme said:5. Your mother is sweet! (For a domineering shrew.) Mama’s boys, watch out. There is no greater BANE in our existence than a shrew for a mother in law. Poor Lumen, always caught in a stupid ping pong ball of emotions between pleasing her husband and sucking up to her mother in law. I say, ditch the old broad, Lumen, and for once, stick to your guns. You don’t need to be WA-IS for your mother in law, you only need to be WA-IS for your husband.
biteme said:6. Hmmmm, quite the handful. Oooh, ow, I think you're too big for me. Read number 3 and internalize this: He likes hearing this. So, give it to him. I’m not a puritan and I’ve always thought if it doesn’t hurt the person, so give a kind word or two. This definitely applies to the same principle.
biteme said:7. I don't talk to my girlfriends about you. You know those all-girl night outs we say we go to, now you know what we talk about. How amazing you are, how crazy in love you are, how wonderful you are.... Of course, if we just had a big fight, we bash you with our girl friends and perform voodoo on you. Yes, there's the voodoo doll image of you and guess where we stab the pins?
biteme said:8. I hope you and your new girlfriend will be very happy. When a relationship ends, we have to say this. When The Corrs sang “I Never Really Loved You Anyway,” I was so sure there had to be a basis. In truth and in fact, we actually want you and your current girlfriend to die from a debilitating disease, crawl on dirt with blood and mucus secreting everywhere or something along that line.
biteme said:9. It's just what I always wanted! (The bigger the smile, the bigger the lie.) Most men have lousy taste. Admit it. They hate to shop. They hate to wait so they usually take the most convenient, accessible and sometimes cheapest gift they can find, or if they’re really smart, they ask a girl friend or their sister or their mother to shop for them. But even that sometimes does not work out so when men hand the gift over, we give a big smile and say this line.
biteme said:10. Marriage? I've never even thought about it... (We planned the whole event out in the womb.) There are women who swear on their mother’s grave they do not want to get married, but I also know plenty of women who use this excuse to camouflage their growing desperation to get married. They say this lie because they do not want to scare the guy. But the truth is, most women want the whole shebang hoopla - long white gown with a train so long, white roses for bouquet and Archbishop Tuquib presiding over the wedding. We say men think of sex all the time, well, women think of marriage all the time...at least normal women do.
biteme said:11. I never lie. Don’t you believe this, honey. This is like calling the kettle black. Of course she lies. Otherwise, she’s the devil’s handmaid. You know how they say, perfection is the devil’s work. I don’t really believe that but if she says she never lies, I’d volunteer to have my ovaries removed without anesthesia.
biteme said:12. I have a boyfriend. This is handy when a male or female admirer has gone psycho and is now stalking you. When he or she won’t take no for an answer, and you truthfully do not have a boyfriend, get one of your friends to pretend that you’re involved with him. The wise ones get a clue. The stupids usually take a longer time.
biteme said:13. I don't have a boyfriend. Have you ever gone to a party and saw somebody (who looks like the poster guy for Oxygen Shop) where the attraction was too strong, and you, being a mere mortal, wanted so badly to get to know this person better and he seems to exchange hot looks with you too, but your boyfriend is still alive and kicking and will pick you up in twenty minutes so you say this lie to the Oxygen look-alike model in a last ditch effort to get lucky.
biteme said:14. My best friend is infatuated with you and if I keep seeing you, I'll lose her as a friend. Surprisingly, guys understand that friendship comes first, especially between women. This is an example of a uni-sex lie. Most men use this lie too to get rid of a pesky female. We merely change tables once in a while. The truth is, her best friend hates your guts so bad she would have paid the boys in Corrales to bump you off.
biteme said:15. It's not you; it's me. (It's you.) When God created man, he saw that He royally screwed up, so He went and made woman. Following this logic, a woman is totally blameless and utterly devoid of any flaw especially when it comes to relationships. Right? Wrong. But it's sure good for the ego and the self esteem. And for most men and women, this gives them the license to lie. Whether it's moral or not, I don’t really want to make judgment calls but I will tell you this: Lying is like rain on a hot summer day, it can be refreshing and fun but when it keeps coming, it cramps your lifestyle.
BIKINIMOM said:Well since you asked me - I will tell you. One of the reasons why few men can handle me is because most men WANT to be lied to and I am brutally fucking honest.
This is one of the dumbest fucking things that I have EVER heard. Why would I say something so fucking transparent and dumb?
If I didn't come, he has some more fucking to do. POINT BLANK
Why would a man be SO FUCKING RETARDED as to ask such a question? If I didnt volunteer that he was the best lover I'd ever had - guess what? HE ISNT. Most men that I bed are not this dumb, thank goodness and makes for notsomany uncomfortable situations. But to answer you - NO, I have NEVER told this lie. Never felt the need, pure and simple.
I haven't had the luxury of being able to shop for myself in years. So I actually think it is sort of amusing to tell a guy that makes millions that I am wearing something that a young girl from the gym child care gave me as a handmedown. A - he will be somewhat impressed that at nearly 40 and after four kids I can still pull of wearing something that a 20 y/o could wear and B - bastard better take me shopping.
If your mother is a bitch I will ask that she be kept far from me as it will most certainly make for many uncomfortable social situations. If the woman is a bitch then her son need leave her be and be with me or else, we need not date. Simple shmimple
I am quite tight and shallow anatomically. If a man's penis is a bit more than average he WILL hurt me and I do not find pain to be pleasurable. If it is evident that I will become intimate with a man and he is average length/girth or more then I tell him that he needs to exercise great care whe we are making love or we wont be hitting this. If he has a smaller than average penis then he wont be able to hurt me and the sex will undoubtedly be good (that is, if all other factors are taken into consideration and are copacetic for us both).
I feel no need to lie about this either. My sister and I are very close and so am I with my dearest gf. But it is also a given that I have a brain in my head and do my own thinking. If he is threatened by most closest relationships - we wont be going on a second date. Why should I lie to be with an insecure simpleton?
Why would I not want happiness for a man if I could not provide him with that happiness? If he is a miserable fuck then we wont be talking after our breakup anyway, so why should I lie? Makes no sense.
If I am not in love with something that a man has BOUGHT for me then I find a diplomatic way to express it without hurting him. It isn't that hard. If a man knows me, he knows that I am gracious and appreciative regardless of whether I am in love with the particular gift that he bought or not and I value the effort that went into him trying to please me. I would NEVER cut a man's balls off by not being gracious. He knows me and knows that it isn't about money, but about thought. If he MADE me a gift and it was the ugliest thing known to man I would hug and kiss him and use/wear/display it every fucking day because he made it just for me. If someone else didn't like it - then they can kiss my rock hard ass. I have ALWAYS been this way and this way shall I always be.
I guess I am fucking abnormal then because I think of sex constantly. Marriage? That shit scares the crap out of me but that does not mean that i wouldn't LOVE to be in a committed LTR - not necessarily marriage because of the hell my exhusband has put us through. Why on earth would I lie about something so silly?
I dont say that I never lie. That is too broad and arguably a lie.
I am specific. I say truthfully that I do not possess the mental prowess required to lie so I just fucking tell the truth.
I just tell them that I have four kids. That is more than enough to scare the shit out of most men. If they still persist after that I ask how much money they make. After I give a chortle or guffaw I say, "Thanks... but no thanks." Usually more than enough immasculation for any man. They get the hint and scurry away without my having to give this piss poor common lie.
Sorry - never once. Either I am committed or I am not. The line is clear and I have NEVER crossed it. Besides, I could care less what a man looks like.
WTF?!
DUMBASS.
Ummmm if it's you - then why should I take the blame for your inadequecies?
So you were saying?
stilleto said:And you know it, and the person lying to you knows it, but keeps trying to keep that charade up that its the truth, even though you're like, "LOOK, we BOTH know you're lying, STOP digging yourself in deeper!!" but they keep it up anyway?
GOD Thats infuriating.
manny78 said:Being lied to is funny. DIsturbing the first few times but then it's like a game where you push the moron to dig his own grave and see how low he can go. The funniest is when someone actually believes its own lies. Used to be my bread and butter back when in my investigator's day in the force.
biteme said:You just proved my point. You just admitted that you don't say you never lie, when before you said that you never lie. You are far more transparent than you realize.
biteme said:THere are all kinds of lies. THese people were lying about crimes committed. Have you ever lied?
BIKINIMOM said:Are you arguementative, silly, retarded or just in need of sleep?
Not only did I say that I never lied, I even went one better and was very specific about why I dont. I said that I am specific about why I CANT... I do not possess the mental prowess to lie - HENCE I DO NOT.
I prefer to expend my limited faculties on more pleasant pursuits... like thinking about sex. (Did you read the part where I am abnormal because I am ALWAYS thinking about sex?)
Give it up Biteme - I have quite sufficiently owned you.![]()
Now I am going to retire for the night. My girls are waiting.
biteme said:No you haven't. Only in your mind. See # 11 on the list above about evil women.
BIKINIMOM said:I am quite tight and shallow anatomically. If a man's penis is a bit more than average he WILL hurt me and I do not find pain to be pleasurable. If it is evident that I will become intimate with a man and he is average length/girth or more then I tell him that he needs to exercise great care whe we are making love or we wont be hitting this. If he has a smaller than average penis then he wont be able to hurt me and the sex will undoubtedly be good (that is, if all other factors are taken into consideration and are copacetic for us both).
Had a hernia repair. Doctor totally revamped the vagina and it is tight like I never had one.Hiatussin said:After three kids, anything above average hurts?
Have you ever denied a man sex when you found out his penis was too big?BIKINIMOM said:Had a hernia repair. Doctor totally revamped the vagina and it is tight like I never had one.![]()
Hiatussin said:Have you ever denied a man sex when you found out his penis was too big?
Nothing worse then someone being caught red handed in lie and saying it wasn’t me or even worse trying to explain the lie away.stilleto said:awesome thread!!!
I wonder how many of you could go a day without lying at all.
BIKINIMOM said:It is really quite easy and extremely liberating to be truthfull, just as it it to be faithfull. Dont lie or cheat and you wont have your mind plagued with thoughts about how everyone else is capable of fucking you.
I still remember a conversation my ex and I had had just before we split. He looked at me with this blank expression and asked, "You really do trust me THAT much. How can you possibly be THAT trusting?"
Well no duh motherfucker. If I am 100% faithfull and truthfull, then why the fuck would I doubt you?
Shortly after we split everyone else began to "educate me" as to the reason that bastard went off the deep end and couldnt accept the fact that I was neither lying nor cheating was because he was doing same. Still fucking blows my mind to this day
Ring a bell Biteme?
And for the record - I have been cheated on and lied to on more than one occasion by a man that I loved very deeply - my exhusband and one boyfriend. And to this day I still tell my girls that NOT ALL MEN ARE LYING, CHEATING PISSPOOR PATHETIC EXCUSES FOR MEN.
Those "people" are scum.... pure and simple... and anything BUT men.
Lying, cheating, stealing, manipulating, etc are NOT gender-specific character flaws and I feel sorry for any poor bastard be they male or female who actually believes there is a shred of truth to such statements because this means that they are self-loathing as they project these qualities onto others as they have found said detestable flaws within themselves and can NOT stop this behavior soooooooooooo then others must also be the same.
NOT.
As I said - my flaws are many - LET FUCKEN COUNT THE WAYS - but lying and cheating aren't hardly none of 'em.
stilleto said:I wonder how many of you could go a day without lying at all.
stilleto said:i think its quiet obvious that you are truthful to a fault sometimes. I wouldn't ever consider you someone that would even stretch the truth knowingly, let alone lie.
biteme said:LIES WOMEN TELL
by
Shanidar Cabaraban
1. Yes, you do kind of look like Piolo Pascual, especially with that haircut! The more handsome the actor, the more she loves you. I have never lied to either of my husbands about their appearances.
2. Of course I came, honey! Tons of times. I have NEVER, EVER lied about having an orgasm, but then there's no way they could exactly miss it, either. I HAVE said, "ain't gonna happen tonite."
3. You're the best lover I've ever had. My current husband is the best lover I've ever had. I've NEVER said that phrase to someone without it being true and I've never known a guy stupid enough to ASK it.
4. Oh this? It's just something I threw on. (It's brand-new.) Nope, never done this either ... I'm not very uh, clothes/shopping oriented.
5. Your mother is sweet! (For a domineering shrew.) Nope, first mother in law is nuts, ex warned me before I met her, second mother in law was nuts, too, would drive current husband nuts.
6. Hmmmm, quite the handful. Oooh, ow, I think you're too big for me. I've never told a guy he had an anaconda when he didn't, I've never BEEN with a dude who was hung like a horse, anyway. I HAVE said "I don't particularly care what size it is, feels good to me, which means it's just right."
7. I don't talk to my girlfriends about you. Any guy stupid enough to ASK this question deserves to be looked at like he's braindead. Women talk, that's what they're wired to do.
8. I hope you and your new girlfriend will be very happy. Whoa, whoa, I actually FIXED my ex up with his current wife and DID want them to be happy, anything to get the obsessed mofo off my back ... I didn't wish ill on him, I just wished he would go away. The truth of the matter is I've never actually run into any ex's -- other than former spouse. Except for my marriage, none of my relationships "broke up" bitterly, they just sort of faded away.
9. It's just what I always wanted! I am officially the worlds most difficult person to buy for. I've never said the referenced phrase, I have said, thank you, and meant it.
10. Marriage? I've never even thought about it... The only men who ever discussed marriage with me married me. I got married pretty young the first time so I'm sort of not qualified to respond on this one.
11. I never lie. Never, no, although I absolutely try to be 100% honest in my life now and I am, as far as I can recollect, 100% truthful to my current husband. However, you can't have an affair on your spouse and not bend the truth into a pretzel, and I did cheat on my first husband.
12. I have a boyfriend. I used this one time, there was a man who was harrassing me for a date, and wouldn't take no for an answer. He really did not appeal to me and I was not interested in dating him, or anyone, really, but this guy was a real jerk. I told him I had a fiancee, who was in State Trooper academy and a former Marine, he left me alone.
13. I don't have a boyfriend. Never used that one, if I was involved with someone but was interested in someone else, I figured the party I was interested in deserved to know I had baggage.
14. My best friend is infatuated with you and if I keep seeing you, I'll lose her as a friend. Never used this one, never had a reason to, never would have thought of it if the occasion called for it ... I can't imagine the purpose of it. You date someone, or you're not into them, you don't come up with some bullshit way to dump them.
15. It's not you; it's me. Used this phrase, and it was me. There was nothing WRONG with the person in question, I just wasn't into them. No chemistry. How do you say that? You're a nice man, there's nothing wrong with you, but it's just not working ... the problem is guys can't accept this. What is it with the male mind: "I wanna fuck her she has to give me a GOOD reason we can't!" You tell a guy who finds YOU hot that you're not attracted, he just doesn't get your panties wet, and they freaking get PISSY and NASTY.
gotmilk said:Lying about the penis?
musclemom said:The truth, I've hurt more people by being brutally honest than by being a liar. There were a lot of times I could have avoided causing pain if I lied and was comfortable with it.
Not all women are shallow, materialistic, golddigging bitches.
BIKINIMOM said:Thank you for saying that.
I have been psychologically evaluated out the wazoo and it has been proven that I am incapable of lying because of combination of nature and upbringing (alcoholic volitile father and emotionallly abusive and demanding mother) - I volunteer TOO MUCH information as I have a very strong need to be believed.
There are many ways to negate the "little white lie" that many tell to "spare someone's feelings". The truth is that those people are too fucking simple to spend an extra moment focusing on something POSITITVE because they are using their precious mental effort trying to remember all of their fucking lies.
ie -
Someone shows me a pic of their kid, the ugliest fucking kid on the planet. If it is my sister to whom I am very close we laugh about how ugly the child is an hope they will grow up to be smart! hehehehehehe (This REALLY happened with my niece. She was an extremely homely baby. But is quite attractive now AND smart and creative to boot! LOL) So instead of fucking lying - I will focus on something positive and comment on that. For example: "She has your eyes!" or "What an adorable outfit!"
It isnt that hard. I dont feel the need to lie and no one's feelings get hurt.
CASE CLOSED.
My children never doubt a compliment from me "because I am their mother" because THEY KNOW THAT I DONT LIE.
biteme said:You missed the whole point, but you've been doing that ever since you've been here. You lack logic and reasoning. Of course I lie, I tell white lies when necessary not pathological lies. I know that you do too, you just can't admit it to yourself or you won't. Now let's put each other on ignore because you get on my nerves probably worse than anyone here. Need I post your meltdown that you had the other day? Going off on how you hate men?
pintoca said:should I lock it now, or should I lock it later?
Let me consult with my trusty Drama Llama
pintoca said:should I lock it now, or should I lock it later?
Let me consult with my trusty Drama Llama.
Yep DramaLlama says "Biteme and Bikinimom should take it to PMs and leave the Drama to DramaLlama"
wise Auchenia glama that she is
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Dam you woman *throws hands up in the air* please bring the drama lama to my threadsBIKINIMOM said:LOL
Move it along peeps... no drama here to speak of.....just a somewhat intelligent discourse. (Hey, I am working like a bastard here to hold my end up!)
Now you all play nice as my girls and I have to go out and wreak some right proper havoc!!!
stilleto said:leave my thread alone nazimod.
superqt4u2nv said:Dam you woman *throws hands up in the air* please bring the drama lama to my threadsI am trying to win thread of the week. Every time I get a nomination it goes up against AAP so it has extra flamboyant drama to beat that queen.
this shit just keeps getting better dont it.Angel said:my husband is a lying bastard...he cannot tell a lie even if he tried. He is sooo read able. I love watching him try to lie.....it is funny.Like a boy with chocolate on his face that claims he did not eat it.
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