yes.. another cycle critique request.. please

[decem]

yes.. this is the 100th time i've posted my upcoming cycle to receive feedback.. and yes.. this is the 100th time i've changed it..

but guess what.. i don't give a crap.. i'm at work and i'm fucking bored and i might as well see what y'all think.. even if i run the risk of annoying you with persistent changes...

i changed it in part because i chickened out on the fina.. something about it scares me.. so i bought some var to replace it.. here's what i'll have..

2000mg anavar (200 - 10mg tabs)
2500mg winny (50 - 50mg tabs)
6000mg EQ (3 btls ttokkyo)
2000mg t200 (1 btl brovel)
and clomid..

here's what i'm thinking...

2 weeks prior to cycle - use 20mg var ed with 10-15 grams of creatine to maintain muscle mass and tone up just a little before cycle.. plus i want to start already, but i'm still getting used to my school/work schedule... so i don't want to st art hardcore and then fuck it up cause i'm too busy..

cycle to gain (hopefully) 20-25lbs of lean mass.. and keep it on.

EQ - 1200mg wk1 - 600mg wks 2-9
t200 - 400mg wk1 - 200mg wks 2-9
var 40mg ed wks 1-4 along with 10 grams of creatine
winny 50mg ed wks 5-11
clomid wks 12-14

i wanna run var for another 30 days after the cycle.. but do i start it right after the winny.. or wait until after clomid? i can run it through clomid can't i??

what do you guys think..

do you think i should switch the var and winny around so that i run the var at the end and then just decrease the dosage after the cycle?

 

[Ulter]

i wanna run var for another 30 days after the cycle.. but do i start it right after the winny.. or wait until after clomid? i can run it through clomid can't i??

No hold off on the clomid. Start the Ox right after the winny. When your 30 days is up THEN start the clomid. The Ox will make it harder for your HPTA to recover even with clomid and there is no need to prolong the amount of time you'll need to be on the clomid. So wait.

 

[decem]

thanks ulter..

do you think it'd be better for me to stop after week 11.. run the clomid for 3 weeks... then get back on the var at 20mg ed with creatine?

here's the dilemna: i don't want to totally shatter my liver.. and i don't want to run the risk of my hpta never recovering.. but i also want to do what i can to keep my gains so that i never have to run a cycle again.. (ok.... at least for a year or so.. )

so now, knowing this, what do you suggest? anything different?

 

[needleboy]

Decem,

Do the Fina!!!!!

replacing fina with OX is like replacing a fully restored '57 T-Bird convertable, with a VW Cabrio!

 

[serge]

more test man, more test. dont bother with weak shit like eq, vars, and winny. if you are looking to grow, then androgen saturation is a must

 

[needleboy]

serge is right, I'd add more test!

 

[hookuprx]

Decem,

Do the Fina!!!!!

replacing fina with OX is like replacing a fully restored '57 T-Bird convertable, with a VW Cabrio!

Amen, and with the winny you should have not a damn to worry about with the fina.

 

[decem]

can't take the test up.. i'm HELLA gyno prone..

also.. i respond well to any AAS.. even at low doses.. but the only downside is that i respond real well to the sides as well.. so i think i can get good quality gains with this.. and hopefully avoid all the good quality side effects..

that's why i'm light on the test.. and as for the fina.. besides being a chicken shit.. i also have been concerned about losing my hair recently.. so i'm going to be taking finasteride to counteract it..

 

[Trevdog]

i'm HELLA gyno prone..

That's why God made arimidex. I would raise the test to 500 mgs. and run .5 of arimidex per day with it.

 

[decem]

thx trevdog.. i actually have about 40mg or so laying around.. but i'm just too fucking afraid to up the test man.. not only that.. seriously.. but who knows.. i might reconsider... seeing as i keep having to push the start date back due to other obligations/commitments..

 

[Ulter]

Don't let them push you into more test until your ready. I use 200mg/wk with tren and it's more than enough.

No I wouldn't change anything. The Ox will give your liver a break after the winny. It is very gentle on you liver compared to winny. Get the cycle over with and then do your clomid course. Y
ou are liable to undo everything by starting the ox up again that soon. If you wanted to wait 6 weeks for the ox that would make more sense. But that's not what I would do.