YELLOWJACKET a FAKE??

[John450]

Just wondering if any of you have any personal insight on this subject. I had a couple of run-ins with him a few months ago here but haven't really seen him around lately. maybe this is why.

This is just a small portion of whats out there. He went from 19 -24 in just 1 years time. He went from working full time, to having 6 kids, to finishing a masters as a now 24 year old in one years time. Not to mention his certifications in personal training (which he did not have has as a 19 year old 10 months ago) We need others to begin to scour the other boards and bring it in so we can put it all together. Your help with that would be greatly appreciated.

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YellowJacket is a teenage pathological liar, At bb.com, just 1 year ago, his profile showed him 18 or 19, I forget which. I was shocked when he said he was now 24. He has NO degrees. He is a member of over 50 boards, and can be found online somewhere 16 hours a day. 3 degrees and in college now? riiiigghht! He posted his pics a few months back and he looked like a fairly stocky 18 year old with maybe 6 months of training, and a high percentage of bf. Yet he openly brags in the chat room about his contest level physique. "I'm much larger than Str8flexed," he says,"and far more ripped!"

When will the lying and bullshit ever stop? He was asking rudimentary questions like the ones below last May@ bb.com. In 10 months he has gotten so knowledgeable as to say, "Come back and see me John, when your knowledge comes close to my own!" What he has is a lot of time on his hands, a very good memory, and an incredible talent for cut and paste.

Then(Approx 12 months ago): Says he is 19 years old, obvious newbie about supps and says he has never done gear. Did not know whay anavar was.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=289203#post289203

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25308

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21892

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22131

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22937

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25280

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25505

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=289156#post289156

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26708

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26938

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28998

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31074

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=302313#post302313

Now(current): He is 24, a Masters degree student, has done many cycles of gear, etc. Now he has done several cycles of anavar? Now he has done nearly every steroid ever in a matter of one year? Remember just one year ago he said he had never done anything. The posts below ref. Statements he had made that conflict in general as well as claims to different roid usage. LOL!!!

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=3058#post3058

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=3589#post3589

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=4196#post4196

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=8104#post8104

Now he is very vascular??

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=6500#post6500
And a degree??

http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=4519#post4519

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[THE_BIG_FED]

very good detective work. i think you got a bust on this one.

 

[Juice Authority]

I think he was posting under the user name "Bee" over here. Anyway, someone else pointed this out over at FG. Of course, the guy that goes by YellowJacket over at FG denies any relation to the YellowJacket that was banned from bb.com. Here's the thread.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18497&perpage=35&pagenumber=3

 

[John450]

very good detective work. i think you got a bust on this one.

Yes, nailed indeed.

 

[Rio 2001]

John, do you think that the time you spent gathering evidence against this guy was time well spent? I mean, he is not a scammer or anything, and if you´re gonna bust every liar in the web you´ll do this job 24/7...
There is a yellowjacket in chemicalmuscle too, he recently argued with me that HMB was an excellent supp...Don´t know if it´s the same.

 

[Juice Authority]

John, do you think that the time you spent gathering evidence against this guy was time well spent? I mean, he is not a scammer or anything, and if you´re gonna bust every liar in the web you´ll do this job 24/7...
There is a yellowjacket in chemicalmuscle too, he recently argued with me that HMB was an excellent supp...Don´t know if it´s the same.

Most, if not all, of the info John posted has been floating around the boards for a while. John probably cut and pasted the info so I doubt he spent much time gathering info on this guy.

 

[John450]

There is a yellowjacket in chemicalmuscle too, he recently argued with me that HMB was an excellent supp...Don´t know if it´s the same.

That is the SAME yellowjacket, he is a member of every board and spends most of his time online. He lives to tell lies to newbies and fellow board members.

 

[John450]

Most, if not all, of the info John posted has been floating around the boards for a while. John probably cut and pasted the info so I doubt he spent much time gathering info on this guy.

That is correct.

 

[Rio 2001]

OK then and thanks for letting people know.

 

[John450]

Bump for all to see.

 

[dzuljas]

lol. this pussy says in one of his threads, he works 40 hours a week, goes to school 18 hours a week and then says how he takes n2large, cell tech, and andro.......lol what a joker!

 

[Terd]

bump

 

[John450]

Bump.

 

[Spidey]

I think he was posting under the user name "Bee" over here. Anyway, someone else pointed this out over at FG. Of course, the guy that goes by YellowJacket over at FG denies any relation to the YellowJacket that was banned from bb.com. Here's the thread.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18497&perpage=35&pagenumber=3

I can't access the thread for some reason even though I am a member over there. It tells me I don't have permission to view that thread. Was it by any chance on the secure forum or something like that?

 

[John450]

I can't access the thread for some reason even though I am a member over there. It tells me I don't have permission to view that thread. Was it by any chance on the secure forum or something like that?

It was most likely deleted.

 

[Juice Authority]

It was most likely deleted.

Yeah. They like him over at FG so they're probably trying to protect his rep for some dumb reason.

 

[basskiller]

Yeah. They like him over at FG so they're probably trying to protect his rep for some dumb reason.

Yes.. I personally like the guy.. You mention a few posts up there that try and make him look bad.. I can show you a thousand where he has went out of his way in an attempt to help people!

Look it.. I've got into a knock-down drag out fight with the guy.. But that was between him and me.. This entire situation is bullshit. And you are smack dab in the middle of shit everytime I come here... You guys need to grow the hell up!

Do any of you even know what the situation was behind this character assassination??? Most likely not!


BTW The tread was moved because some guys thought it was necessary to try this shit there in a thread that had nothing to do with YJ.. They did it because they were nothing more than a troll...
Fitnessgeared will not be a party to your childish little attempts to get back at someone because they have pissed you off..


Now.. Why not be a Man about this and let this shit die.. It is getting really old!

 

[Juice Authority]

Yes.. I personally like the guy.. You mention a few posts up there that try and make him look bad.. I can show you a thousand where he has went out of his way in an attempt to help people!

Look it.. I've got into a knock-down drag out fight with the guy.. But that was between him and me.. This entire situation is bullshit. And you are smack dab in the middle of shit everytime I come here... You guys need to grow the hell up!

Do any of you even know what the situation was behind this character assassination??? Most likely not!


BTW The tread was moved because some guys thought it was necessary to try this shit there in a thread that had nothing to do with YJ.. They did it because they were nothing more than a troll...
Fitnessgeared will not be a party to your childish little attempts to get back at someone because they have pissed you off..


Now.. Why not be a Man about this and let this shit die.. It is getting really old!

Hey bass,

I didn't start the fucking thread over here I just responded to it so chill out. And yes, I don't particularly care for the guy. He comes off like a "know it all" punk when in fact he's a fraud and doesn't know shit as is indicative of his many ignorant posts over at bb.com and other boards. You yourself just admitted that you've had run-ins with this guy so why is it so hard to believe that others have had similar problems?

 

[basskiller]

The thread in question is titled "Regarding QV products".. Tell me what the hell that has to do with you posting a link to that bullshit that happened at a different site?
I'll tell you.. Absolutely nothing!



apples and oranges... A character assassination and the fact that he is hot tempered and brash are two completely different subject juice.

I'm taking it, that since you didn't answer the question.. That you don't know the real reasons behind what was done to him...
But that's OK.. When and If you do.. Contact me and we can discuss the wrongness of it all.

 

[Juice Authority]

The thread in question is titled "Regarding QV products".. Tell me what the hell that has to do with you posting a link to that bullshit that happened at a different site?
I'll tell you.. Absolutely nothing!



apples and oranges... A character assassination and the fact that he is hot tempered and brash are two completely different subject juice.

I'm taking it, that since you didn't answer the question.. That you don't know the real reasons behind what was done to him...
But that's OK.. When and If you do.. Contact me and we can discuss the wrongness of it all.

Why the fuck are you and I going at it again? Over some punk kid that goes by the handle YellowJacket on your site? Is he not capable of defending himself?? He needs you to hold to his hand for him? Give it a rest. Like I've told you several times before I don't have an issue with you yet you seem to have a hard-on for me. I don't give a shit about what was done to him and why he was banned from bb.com. What bothers me about this guy is his Holier than Thou attitude towards people and arrogant disposition. I read the links to some of his old threads psoted above. It's the same guy that goes by the handle YellowJacket at FG and it's painfully obvious that he's a complete moron so please back off.

 

[The Bee]

OOh, the YJ is a fraud thread again, what is this? Like 5 or 6 today? I thought this was laughed off a couple months back..... still entertaining to read from time ot time I suppose.

Ok, I a fraud, Im a 15 year old pregnant Columbian woman, fine. Can YOU refute my information? Nada. Its easy to sit and call someone a fraud based on some old posts at an irrelevant board, but I encourage you to show me up, prove Im a fraud. Get your shit together, go to FG and make me look stupid. Reading some of your posts at various boards, I now know why you sit back and scream phony instead of proving it. You cant stand the fact Im a 'fraud' and Ive forgotten more than you'll ever know..... that must hit hard aye?

At least paypal me some cash for the ride on my nuts man, I have no idea who you are, but you spend an awful lot of time on my dick. You might just win the drama queen of the year award.

I thank Bass for proving his maturity once again, you have a lot to learn from him Juice.....

And to the thread starter, Fireman, at least post with your real name, you started the same "YJ is a fake" thread a month or so ago and no one really cared, give it up man..... Im not phony, I post at dozens of boards and you seem to be the only one stuck on me being a fraud.

Thank you all for your time.

YJ

 

[mvmaxx]

I missed the part why we should care.

 

[The Bee]

I missed the part why we should care.

I missed it also......

I thought all this died awhile back when everyone laughed it off... I suppose you'll always have the people who are behind on the times.....

Fireman was handed his ass at anabolciuniverse for spouting off opinions about a subject in which he was clueless about, I presenting some studies that refuted his opinion, he couldnt handle it so he spammed "YJ Is a fraud" with some invalid links on several boards, all of which were inevitably deleted because of the childish bahavior. Now instead of debating or proving their point of proving mine wrong, it always circles back around to "YJs a fraud". I guess when your back's against the wall and you're lost in a debate, the scapegoat is "YJ's a fraud".

Amusing to say the least.

 

[Juice Authority]

OOh, the YJ is a fraud thread again, what is this? Like 5 or 6 today? I thought this was laughed off a couple months back..... still entertaining to read from time ot time I suppose.

Ok, I a fraud, Im a 15 year old pregnant Columbian woman, fine. Can YOU refute my information? Nada. Its easy to sit and call someone a fraud based on some old posts at an irrelevant board, but I encourage you to show me up, prove Im a fraud. Get your shit together, go to FG and make me look stupid. Reading some of your posts at various boards, I now know why you sit back and scream phony instead of proving it. You cant stand the fact Im a 'fraud' and Ive forgotten more than you'll ever know..... that must hit hard aye?

At least paypal me some cash for the ride on my nuts man, I have no idea who you are, but you spend an awful lot of time on my dick. You might just win the drama queen of the year award.

I thank Bass for proving his maturity once again, you have a lot to learn from him Juice.....

And to the thread starter, Fireman, at least post with your real name, you started the same "YJ is a fake" thread a month or so ago and no one really cared, give it up man..... Im not phony, I post at dozens of boards and you seem to be the only one stuck on me being a fraud.

Thank you all for your time.

YJ

Now that you're over here why not tell everybody how lame you think Elite is. You can talk shit on other boards but try posting your board bashing remarks over here and see what happens.

 

[The Bee]

Now that you're over here why not tell everybody how lame you think Elite is. You can talk shit on other boards but try posting your board bashing remarks over here and see what happens.

I think its lame as hell I have to pay to post here.... will my opinion change anything? Nope. And with hundreds of boards out there, I dont think Elite cares if I dont post here and I dont care that I can post at Elite. I dont think Im alone on calling BS to pay to post here, look around.

Its not really 'shit talking' drama queen, its more of an opinion. Your attempts to stir shit are petty.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

did Nelson turn in early tonight or something? Where's he at?

 

[Juice Authority]

I think its lame as hell I have to pay to post here.... will my opinion change anything? Nope. And with hundreds of boards out there, I dont think Elite cares if I dont post here and I dont care that I can post at Elite. I dont think Im alone on calling BS to pay to post here, look around.

Its not really 'shit talking' drama queen, its more of an opinion. Your attempts to stir shit are petty.

So how old are you really? 19? 20? 21? Which one is it? BTW, you don't have to pay to post here moron. There are plenty of non-plat members here.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

even if its not the best use of my time to care about this subject...

Bass- will you show some threads that you spoke of earlier- where yellowjacket/bee/whoever went out on a limb to help people.

BEE - you have made no case to defend yourself, but instead have chosen to slander everyone who has commented on this thread. Provide some sort of rebuttal to these allegations. I think the original post asked if anyone has insight into this- you would have the best insight of anyone here.

 

[The Bee]

So how old are you really? 19? 20? 21? Which one is it? BTW, you don't have to pay to post here moron. There are plenty of non-plat members here.

I would if I wanted to use my original handle, moron. Resorting to childish name calling and you're asking me my age? Interesting as well as comical.

 

[The Bee]

even if its not the best use of my time to care about this subject...

Bass- will you show some threads that you spoke of earlier- where yellowjacket/bee/whoever went out on a limb to help people.

Go to Fitnessgeared, competitivemuscle, steroidology, anabolicfreaks, intense-training, chemicalmuscle, anabolicsciene, massmonsterz, cuttingedgemuscle, wannabebig, massuniversity, bodybuilding4life, hard-n-ripped, etc. I think my posts speak for themselves. I have never been the calmest guy on the internet, but Ive helped far more people than Ive offended.

BEE - you have made no case to defend yourself, but instead have chosen to slander everyone who has commented on this thread. Provide some sort of rebuttal to these allegations. I think the original post asked if anyone has insight into this- you would have the best insight of anyone here.

Bah, Im tired of defending myself on this issue, its months and months over with....... it was amusing when it came about, now its just old. I have no reason to defend myself, the claims of myself being a fraud is pretty well refuted in my posts at the forementioned boards. Anyone who truly wants to believe Im a fraud are those who wish it so much since I have flamed them in the past. Those who know their shit and have some amount of respect on these boards, know better. Its the kids who instead of debating, resort to the "YJ is a fraud". If people want to believe it, so be it, no big deal to me. I dont think it matters if Im 14, 56, 24, 18 or 9 years old, my personal life is irrelevant, dont like my information, take it for what its worth, if you can do better then do so, no big deal to me.

 

[easy]

This has been interesting but its time to put this to bed. Any Mods feel like shutting this down??

 

[Wrongun]

Think i missed the plot!

Wrongun!

 

[easy]

Plot synopsis: sombody didn't like somebody and stirred up some shit or somthing. about as interesting as WWE.

 

[jcp2]

Yellowjacket it a fraud, holy shit, i sure have seen him help countless numbers of people for being a fraud. Since he explained the whole situation to me, i find it kind of funny that this is even an issue, but i guess with the children we have running around the boards now I shouldn't be surprised. I am not sure what the point of this thread is, how many children he has, how old he is, who the fuck cares, i want to know about gear training and supps. Maybe some of you need to get a fucking life, and stop worrying about everyone elses.

 

[John450]

This has been interesting but its time to put this to bed. Any Mods feel like shutting this down??

Why? If YellowJacket is lieing about his age and life then he is lieing about his dosages and giving out dangerous advice to newbies. I wonder if he ever touched a steroid.

 

[Johnny Cut]

he does post some interesting studies on other boards, i like him, i really dont care if he is telling the truth about himself, to be honest i dont give a fuck if he is 18 or 50 he offers soli advice, the whole point of the boards is to get a BUNCH of opinions, if he was giving such bad info, then other people would refute it.

JC

 

[John450]

he does post some interesting studies on other boards, i like him, i really dont care if he is telling the truth about himself, to be honest i dont give a fuck if he is 18 or 50 he offers soli advice, the whole point of the boards is to get a BUNCH of opinions, if he was giving such bad info, then other people would refute it.

JC

He is just repeating what he heard from others to make himself look omnipotent.

 

[Juice Authority]

He is just repeating what he heard from others to make himself look omnipotent.

I think the point was well made here. We should just ignore idiots like YJ/Bee, who's only life consists of spending hours upon hours on AAS message boards in an attempt to create the false impression that he is very learned in the field.

 

[Johnny Cut]

who really cares tho, that is the point

 

[The Bee]

Why? If YellowJacket is lieing about his age and life then he is lieing about his dosages and giving out dangerous advice to newbies. I wonder if he ever touched a steroid.

You show me where I have given dangerous advice, just 1 thread where I have.......

(hint: you cant, but keep searching)

 

[The Bee]

He is just repeating what he heard from others to make himself look omnipotent.

Then maybe you should read more of my posts. Ive read a few of your's and they're mostly along the lines of drama and no real information. Get a life kid.

 

[The Bee]

I think the point was well made here. We should just ignore idiots like YJ/Bee, who's only life consists of spending hours upon hours on AAS message boards in an attempt to create the false impression that he is very learned in the field.

Yes and Ill PM you my telephone number and when you think you know as much as I have forgotten, call me kid. Going to be hard to avoid me, I post on a lot of boards..... anytime you want to step in and prove me wrong on any issue, feel free.

Maybe we should avoid juvenile idiots like yourself who spend hours upon hours on AAS message boards creating drama, at least Im helping people and giving advice, look what you bring to the table....

 

[The Bee]

I apologize to the mods and members here, this pissing match was much more fun at other boards, I think it lost its entertainment value as it aged and no one gave a shit to start with....

John, next time you get buried in a debate, try to hold your head above water instead of attacking one's credibility, after this thread, I think you lost what you have left. Daddy should take your internet away.

 

[John450]

Yes and Ill PM you my telephone number and when you think you know as much as I have forgotten, call me kid. Going to be hard to avoid me, I post on a lot of boards..... anytime you want to step in and prove me wrong on any issue, feel free.

Maybe we should avoid juvenile idiots like yourself who spend hours upon hours on AAS message boards creating drama, at least Im helping people and giving advice, look what you bring to the table....

What advice? YellowJacket, you are the king of copy and paste. Get off the computer and get laid, you post on every board and are online 24hrs.

---> John450 shooting red karma to the FAKE motherfucker yellowjacket..