Yeeeeeeeahaaaawwww The South Will Riise Agaain!!!!

[Papa Lion]

looks like you got some issues with capitalism bro
"feeding off"
same term that communists used to dennounce capitalists.
i can say my family has done very well and have feed off of no one.
anyway, militias, 2pacs, aryan nation losers, etc, are no match for tanks, jets, and missilies.
the gov't and military, though two seperate groups, would link together and crush any violent opposition easily. it would be laugable easy. now occupation might be difficult (like baghdad) but nothing a few heavy mortars couldn't fix.

hmmm is this the reason Iraq turned out to be such an easy win??? wait the guys we're still hunting there aren't comin at us with tanks and they're taking out our soldiers right and left!! and have immensely weakened the moral of our "fight on terror".... guerilla warfare is nothing to underestimate!! and those that do pay continious casualties!! and essentially guerilla warfare is to win by attrition!! like Rambone did it bro... wait that was the porn version... I meant Rambo

 

[Gambino]

hmmm is this the reason Iraq turned out to be such an easy win??? wait the guys we're still hunting there aren't comin at us with tanks and they're taking out our soldiers right and left!! and have immensely weakened the moral of our "fight on terror".... guerilla warfare is nothing to underestimate!! and those that do pay continious casualties!! and essentially guerilla warfare is to win by attrition!! like Rambone did it bro... wait that was the porn version... I meant Rambo

notice i said occupation was/is difficult
but i doubt that 2pacs and milita types have the same level of dedication and heart as do the Iraqis that are fighting us.

 

[Papa Lion]

ohhh don't get me wrong my friend I don't think the 2pacs of the world would be any real bother but there are alot of others that would!! my only real point was about the guerilla warfare.... people tend to think if you have tanks and big bombs then you can stomp anybody... but you have to know where to use them and just like it's proving to be in Iraq you don't have to have big bombs ie missiles or tanks to fight a large army that does.... alot of little bombs kill just as many!!

 

[Gambino]

ohhh don't get me wrong my friend I don't think the 2pacs of the world would be any real bother but there are alot of others that would!! my only real point was about the guerilla warfare.... people tend to think if you have tanks and big bombs then you can stomp anybody... but you have to know where to use them and just like it's proving to be in Iraq you don't have to have big bombs ie missiles or tanks to fight a large army that does.... alot of little bombs kill just as many!!

i def appreciate guerilla style warfare
the american revolution is a perfect example of the success of guerilla fighting
same with stalingrad to a degree
but it has it's limitations...carpet bombing and complete destruction render guerilla warfare useless.
hiroshima for example, same with berlin.
if the same methods were employed in hanoi or baghdad the guerilla threat could be greatly reduced if not eliminated.
but we don't want complete destruction, we wanna save the infastructure...which has the effect of perserving the guerilla feeding grounds.
but make no mistake guerilla fighting is no match for complete nuc destruction

 

[Papa Lion]

i def appreciate guerilla style warfare
the american revolution is a perfect example of the success of guerilla fighting
same with stalingrad to a degree
but it has it's limitations...carpet bombing and complete destruction render guerilla warfare useless.
hiroshima for example, same with berlin.
if the same methods were employed in hanoi or baghdad the guerilla threat could be greatly reduced if not eliminated.

but god damn wouldn't that be a sweet move... if only prayers were answered!!


but we don't want complete destruction, we wanna save the infastructure...which has the effect of perserving the guerilla feeding grounds.
but make no mistake guerilla fighting is no match for complete nuc destruction

and I fully agree!! there's no style of fighting that can compare with total annihilation!! if we burned the're shadows into the stone walls of their homes then yeah the Iraq deal would be said an done... again if only prayers got answered!!

I've come under the belief that there are powers in the world that are playing a giant game!! there was a deal not too long agao where russia and the british if I recall correctly were pissed at each other when some spies got cought out side some big ordeal using a synthetic rock as a some tranceiver... think about what had to go into that first they had some people sitting around making a paper machet rock... till it looked real enough, then someone went there an dicreetly planted it in the nearby park... and then later it got found out... do they not have cell phones with digi cameras like the rest of the world surely they could have come up with some better alternative... it just seemed so much more like a cat an mouse spy game than anything that would go on in the "real world"

 

[Tytan]

Civil? You think we are civil?

 

[Spartacus]

I can see a nazi-like round-up of arabs and internment camps if Islamic radicals ever detonate a nuke in the continental US

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

It would be hard to imagine a full out civil war these days, with so many people that would be out of the loop if our economy/society ever collapsed. There would most likely just be large scale individual struggling. I doubt the government would ever become vulnerable enough to any revolting groups either; even at the country's weakest. Government is much too big and dynamic these days to be overthrown.

It will be interesting to see which aspect would be the first to go though. Our financial stability is questionable at best, and no multi-cultural society before us has ever lasted.
It's always been a matter of to each their own...until enough elements of each's own start to conflict.

 

[redsamurai]

when you look at a situation through your own lenses and that of your immediate surroundings, it's easy to make a statement like you did that your family fed off no one...........things were put into motion decades ago if not longer. It's like a christian saying there's nothing wrong with christianity because all the people he knows in his parish are good folks.....which is undoubtebly true..........but do you see where that person makes a terrible mistake? If you look at how christianity has moved in the last 2000 years, you see a different picture.........as with any religion. And I"m not so much against capitalism as I am against "our" form of capitalism.........which is a strong federal government that uses tax payer money to prop up those who have bought the most politicians. So in effect, yes......in this country the top percentile has very much so fed off those beneath them because once they get to the top they insure that they give money where money needs to be given and in that way they insure their position regardless if someone else has something better or does something better. I"ve been acutely exposed to this system the last year and a half..........but it wasn't surprising in the least. anyway, our system isn't really capitalism..........in a "truly" capitalistic society the government would be "TINY"

looks like you got some issues with capitalism bro
"feeding off"
same term that communists used to dennounce capitalists.
i can say my family has done very well and have feed off of no one.
anyway, militias, 2pacs, aryan nation losers, etc, are no match for tanks, jets, and missilies.
the gov't and military, though two seperate groups, would link together and crush any violent opposition easily. it would be laugable easy. now occupation might be difficult (like baghdad) but nothing a few heavy mortars couldn't fix.

 

[Gambino]

when you look at a situation through your own lenses and that of your immediate surroundings, it's easy to make a statement like you did that your family fed off no one...........things were put into motion decades ago if not longer. It's like a christian saying there's nothing wrong with christianity because all the people he knows in his parish are good folks.....which is undoubtebly true..........but do you see where that person makes a terrible mistake? If you look at how christianity has moved in the last 2000 years, you see a different picture.........as with any religion. And I"m not so much against capitalism as I am against "our" form of capitalism.........which is a strong federal government that uses tax payer money to testosterone propionate up those who have bought the most politicians. So in effect, yes......in this country the top percentile has very much so fed off those beneath them because once they get to the top they insure that they give money where money needs to be given and in that way they insure their position regardless if someone else has something better or does something better. I"ve been acutely exposed to this system the last year and a half..........but it wasn't surprising in the least. anyway, our system isn't really capitalism..........in a "truly" capitalistic society the government would be "TINY"

what is the arugument about bro gov't or christian history, i'm getting confused here.
but i think a better way to say it is wage earners feed off of their bosses/owners of the company. how a company feeds off it's voluntary employees is misunderstood by me. if you feel that you are being fed off of it is best that you find a new line of work, that may take a higher level of education or new training (not you, in general).
wealth in our society is not limited, their is no set amount. therefore, anyone is free to create wealth, their is not a limited supply.
and i completely disagree with your opinion that good products/ideas get shelved in favor of money...you can't keep good ideas away from consumers, they spread like wildfire. garage tinkerers, small time inventors, you can't prevent that type of thing, it's like preventing evolution. maybe you can hinder a bit but not stop.
i just finished reading the communist manifesto for the first time.
very interesting, i'm sure you've read it right? i never realized the huge difference between marx and lenin and all the other modern communists.
i used to lump them all together but that is 100% false
what i took from it is that marx did not account for the abillity of the cap. gov't to bend and compromise with the workers (i.e 40hr week, OSHA, lunch break, etc)...and this hurts his arguement a bit.
sorry for the ramble