WTC brought down by bombs?

[Wrought]

THE TERRORISTS KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING

AND FULLY INTENDED TO BRING THE BUILDINGS DOWN!!!

Ok, everybody who isn't a structural engineer who has studied tall buildings for years sit down...... good, so is its just me left standing then, good.

The stuff about bombs is BS. The buildings were designed to withstand a severe impact like a plane crash but there is no real way to guard against the kind of fire that was started when the aviation fuel lit up.

A couple of points:
1. As steel is heated it becomes more flexible and therefore will bend more easily and cannot sustain as much load before it deforms.

2. Buildings are only designed to withstand major fires for a certain amount of time (ie. 1-2 hrs). This is generally related to the time it would take to fully and safely evacuate the structure and how long the structure can resist the damaging effects of the heat. The fact that the WTC remained standing as long as it did with that massive a fire load is very impressive.

3. Clen makes it hard for you to concentrate...... shit....

4. If you watch the close up tape of the collapse you can actually see the exterior columns begin to buckle on the burnt out floors and then fully deform as the building comes down.

If they initialy wanted for the towers to fall in then why didn't they hit the towers lower?

Because in a skyscraper, as you get closer to the ground the structure become much more massive and strong because it has to support all of the weight of the floors above. The terrorists knew exactly what they were doing when they hit the buildings where they did. It was at a point where the structure isn't very strong, but there is enough mass above so that when the impacted floors collapse it overloads the rest of the building resulting in a total catastrohpic failure..... and clen makes it hard to concentrate.

The reason for this difference is simple - the south tower was hit lower down by a pilot who even swerved to increase the impact force through added G and on the video replays you can see the differences in the impact. I also clearly remember one of the eye witnesses stating that the 767 crashed into the north tower but the 757 crashed THROUGH the south tower. Add to that the fact that it was impacted lower down meant more weight above the fire and the damaged exterior support columns some of which would have been completely severed by the sheer force of impact. I also have to agree 110% with Chesty in that I don't think the terrorists thought that they would actually bring the towers down otherwise they would have struck them even lower down leaving even more people trapped above the fire or causing almost instantaneous structural failure which either way would've made even this horrific death toll pale by comparison!

Kinda close but no cigar. The south tower went down 1st, even though it was hit 2nd, not because of any swerving or hitting lower down, but because it impacted almost in line with one of the building's faces, and severly damaged that side. This reduced the structures ability to support itself laterally so it literally tipped over after the adjacent columns had been sufficiently weakened by the fire. You can see this in the footage, it looks as if its toppling over, kinda like if you kick out two adjacent legs on a table, while the other tower went almost straight down. THis is the fastest and easiest way to knock down a building like this.

Bottom line, they knew exactly what they were doing and had 100% intent to bring the towers down. They hit the buildings where they were the weakest, if they hit lower down they might not have fallen at all. Oh yeah and clen makes it hard to concentrate... i'm shaking like a leaf here..... shit...

 

[spongebob]

i agree with what wrought said.

 

[reconnect]

I hope they will rebuild them like they were

 

[reconnect]

and not some small ass shit as they say they will

 

[Jeff_rys]

don't now for sure

"Because in a skyscraper, as you get closer to the ground the structure become much more massive and strong because it has to support all of the weight of the floors above. The terrorists knew exactly what they were doing when they hit the buildings where they did. "

They intented to shake up the world, not having the buildings collapse. Still if the impact had been lower, the result would have been the same (i think).
I find it hard to believe that they knew exactly what they where doing.....;
Maybe it is not that easy to do for not so experienced flyers.

 

[Wrought]

They intented to shake up the world, not having the buildings collapse. Still if the impact had been lower, the result would have been the same (i think).

It would depend how much lower they hit, if it was significantly lower on the building the outcome could have been very different as there would have been some chance of actually fighting the fire. Also, if these people were as organised as they are purported to be it would seem fairly ignorant for them not to have considered the effect of the impacts on the structure, especially since some of the hijackers were engineers....... then again this is speculation, none of us will ever know for sure.

 

[G-Force]

Or insure them - unless the government steps in as apparently they've already offered special insurance terms to the airlines!
D O T thats a good point about the attack in '93 I suppose it is possible that they meant to bring the buildings down but the authorities have said it will take structural engineers ages to find out exactly what happened!

 

[prostetic dong]

ok. so by goin g on what most everyone in here thinks, that the planes brought them down, don't you think it is very much a coincidence that both towers came down? and that both towers came down the same way, smooth and precise? like the way buildings takin down by demolition experts crumble on top of each other?
but i guess these stupid "ragheads" as so many sheeple want us to believe, did this only by hijacking planes and crashing them into specific targets and are infact bumbling idiots? i'm sure they ment for the buildings to come down the way they did. 2 the same way? i don't buy it.
i guess well never know.

 

[Wrought]

ok. so by goin g on what most everyone in here thinks, that the planes brought them down, don't you think it is very much a coincidence that both towers came down? and that both towers came down the same way, smooth and precise? like the way buildings takin down by demolition experts crumble on top of each other?

......coincidence.....?
ummmmmm, lets see now, the towers were structurally identical, and they were both subject to almost exactly the same impact and fire loads...... they collapsed down spreading rubble over a number of city blocks..... and a real implosion requires surgical removal of many specific structural members in a specific sequence.

but i guess these stupid "ragheads" as so many sheeple want us to believe, did this only by hijacking planes and crashing them into specific targets and are infact bumbling idiots? i'm sure they ment for the buildings to come down the way they did. 2 the same way? i don't buy it.

Don't be a twit, some of the hijackers were engineers, these were highly intelligent individuals who planned this thing and took a long long time to set it up, and they knew that the planes were all it would take. I'd like to say something poignant here about reacting to crisis and responsible doubt, but I'm tired and my hands are shaking from this GD clen, so go figure it out for yourselves.

 

[prostetic dong]

......coincidence.....?
ummmmmm, lets see now, the towers were structurally identical, and they were both subject to almost exactly the same impact and fire loads...... they collapsed down spreading rubble over a number of city blocks..... and a real implosion requires surgical removal of many specific structural members in a specific sequence.



Don't be a twit, some of the hijackers were engineers, these were highly intelligent individuals who planned this thing and took a long long time to set it up, and they knew that the planes were all it would take. I'd like to say something poignant here about reacting to crisis and responsible doubt, but I'm tired and my hands are shaking from this GD clen, so go figure it out for yourselves.

so what you're saying is that surgical removal of many specific structural members in a specific sequence by some of the "hijackers" that were enginers, highly intelligent individuals who planned this thing out over a long time i might add.
hmmm....but i guess they figured as long as they steal some planes and...oh wait i forgot, get drunk in a bar the night before (muslems don't dig on al-key-hal!), brag on what they have been keeping "secret" for the past five years, and then leave/forget there sorce of enlightenment, there bible on the freakin barstool, pay for all there lap dances and drinks on there own credit cards with there real names on them and give the bartender a photocopy of one of there drivers liscence? this sounds like intelligent men who could keep a secret like attacking the words financial structure at the heart for five years undr wraps?
come on man...wich seems more logical? maybe don't give in 100%, but you gotta have a gut reaction feeling about this shit just not all adding up.
i'm not a consperacy theory nut, i just don't buy everything i hear.
thanks for your thought out answer though bud.