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ghettostudmuffin

ghettostudmuffin

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Well I took my first inject last night of Test E. 300mg every 5th day.

Gotta admit, I was all calm and cool until right up to the point I had cleaned the area and was holding the pin there. No shaking or anything, but I just kinda froze for about 20 seconds. Just staring at the pin and finally said fuck this and just jabbed it in fairly quick. Absolutely bare minimum pain. I noticed the slightest prick and then nothing. Used a 25g 1" pin for thigh inject. Had no probs pushing the oil through it at all although my drawing technique from a vial needs a little work lol.

Took 5mg liquid aromasin(it does taste like battery acid, chasing it with a couple spoonfuls of yogurt worked well though) and called it a night.

Couldn't help checking out the pretty vials a few times. Felt kinda dumb and like a kid at the same time. :) I have to say that nice packaging and labeling really is nice to see.

Now I know Test E isn't supposed to kick in for 3-5 weeks depending on the person, but I was ravenous today and I didn't work out yesterday. Nothing seemed to phase my stomach. Sometimes I get a bacon cheeseburger and fry from a local joint that makes really good, really big burgers and usually I feel stuffed after that combo. Not today. I was starving withing 1.5 hours and had to eat a protein bar which did almost nothing for me.

I don't have d-bol to kickstart the cycle, but I do have var. Well I popped a 20mg cap about an hour before hittign the gym, cleaned up and was on my way.

Could not get fatigued. Couldn't do it. I'd push sets to failure and throw in some hard cheat reps for good measure and literally as soon as I put the weight down and took a few steps I felt like I hadn't even done a set. I worked out really hard for 1.5 hours and just couldn't get exhausted.

I'm guessing that's the var, but technically test E starts releasing as soon as you inject it, but doesn't reach maximal blood levels for several weeks if I am not mistaken.

The pumps were good. I actually got a pretty good pump in my chest and my chest is notoriously hard to get pumped.

I'm not sure I can attribute it to placebo effect because I've used 1-Ad as well as 4-AD in the past with great results and loved it, but I just could not get tired out from the workout today. I just left when I couldn't get my muscles to pump anymore.

Wow.

P.S. I'm starving and I had a post-workout shake 40 mintues ago. :chomp:

Thought I'd share my first experience.
 
Couldn't help checking out the pretty vials a few times. Felt kinda dumb and like a kid at the same time. I have to say that nice packaging and labeling really is nice to see.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can relate to that Bro, everytime I get my gear I feel like a kid at Christmas looking at all my new presents...
 
I'm seriously thinking about totally changing up my routine to like 5-6 days a week if I feel top notch tomorrow. Pull out an old Arnold or Draper routine.

Typically I can tolerate 3 hard sessions a week on non-consecutive days, but if I feel tip top tomorrow, might as well try. I want to get the most out of it I can.

Last time I trained 5-6 days a week was in high school.
 
This is awesome. I have never been on gear (yet) but I am hoping to start my first cycle August 1st or September 1st. Getting things in order until then.

Your post has pumped me up and I can't wait to join the dark side!!!!!
 
The only thing I can add is it's not all peaches and cream.

I've been reading on these forums a long time and feel comfortable enough thanks to the great advice alot of people have given here to use AAS.

I know my first post was like wooboooy, but I take this stuff very seriously.

I wouldn't recommend using the stuff unless you have several years training experience, and even then you should read up very seriously on the subject because it's no joke putting exogenous hormones into your body. It's taken me roughly 3 years of perusing this forum before I finally decided I was ready and was mature enough to use these substances.

As much as I enjoyed my day, in the end you have to respect the AAS.
 
Oh man youre just at the tip of the ice berg. Ive had some other good benefits such as great sex, and I also get enhanced sense of smell. Sort of like I can REALLY smell a girl, makes me eat pussy like a madman. I also get the hunger you speak of, I REALLY crave red meat. So much more too.

Less talked about bad sides include, widening of pores (from androgen), new body hair patches, and hair/finger nails grow faster. Strange, but its true, its a sort of anabolism. I am also on the same dose as you. 4th cycle.
 
Started my 1st cycle 4 weeks ago bro ,500mg sustanon ew. Everything you have said is so true ,its a buzz from the start!! :)

My gear skicked in good and proper about a week ago....I am the Bionic Man..LOL

Good luck with your 1st cycle ,hope all goes well.
 
I sat there w/needle for 45 minutes my first time,after 45 mins closed my eyes and stabbed finally thinking "okay,its in"opened my eyes to see I didnt even break the surface,pussed out,tried again succesfully the next night,funny shit.I am jonesing to start my next one bad.Due to start in 4 weeks,maybe cut it to 2 weeks.
 
You're probably fine shooting E5D but if you start to feel that you are a little less on the 5th day, bear it in mind and consider moving to E4D.

I think almost everyone reading can relate to your opening post. I sat for twenty minutes with a heating pad on my thigh and covering the gear, too, to ensure that everything was warmed up. I still remember that pause, looking down at the needle and thigh prior to injection.

Did you remember to aspirate?
 
Thanks for the responses guys.

Blut Wump, I did aspirate, but my technique of drawing the test out of the vial was pretty crappy. Another thread fortunately in the forum somewhere had nice advice on the process.

Basically I swabbed the top of the vial with an alchohol pad inserted a 20g and drew it out sideways(DOH) Had to pull it a couple times past and ended up wasting a droplet or 2 of it. Then I exchanged that with a fresh 25g 1". Some air sputtered out out as I aspirated. I did tap the syringe a few times before doing that.

When I inserted the needle I did notice something slightly odd. I injected into my thigh and to be honest I think I might have injected a little too close to the middle head of the thigh. I felt no pain as the needle went in but at full insertion I kinda felt this odd dull sensation like the needle ran into something. It didn't hurt. It was kinda odd.

Also, looking at where I injected on the opposite leg it looks like I nijected right between the middle and outter thigh.

I have WICKED soreness now. It's almost debilitating and I work outdoors. The area is slightly swollen, but not hot to the touch nor red or anything. Skin looks totally normal except for some minor swelling. Not sure if that is normal as the oil spreads out and is absorbed or not. It's also extremely tender to touch, but after reading up on abcesses I do not believe it is this so I'm not too paranoid atm, just wondering.

I either:

A. possibly hit a nerve although I guess I woulda been in pain if I had.
B. Shot too close to the middle thigh and the oil is working its way toward that and compressing nerves causing minor swelling and ALOT of soreness.
C. Shot between the middle and outer thigh and the oil is chilling under the skin as it spreads out.
D. Paranoid newb and I'm just feeling sore from the inject and the minor swelling is from the muscle being slightly traumatized and deal with it like a man(and pop some ibuprofen).


My chest is SORE today. That's great. Even the middle of it is sore. That never happens.

Appetite is still ridiculous. Drank a 1500 calorie gainer shake from a local shop and within an hour drank a tall mocha and 30 minutes now after the mocha I feel a strong sensation of hunger.

Kinda squared what my hunger would be like on EQ.

Any thoughts?
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
The only thing I can add is it's not all peaches and cream.

I've been reading on these forums a long time and feel comfortable enough thanks to the great advice alot of people have given here to use AAS.

I know my first post was like wooboooy, but I take this stuff very seriously.

I wouldn't recommend using the stuff unless you have several years training experience, and even then you should read up very seriously on the subject because it's no joke putting exogenous hormones into your body. It's taken me roughly 3 years of perusing this forum before I finally decided I was ready and was mature enough to use these substances.

As much as I enjoyed my day, in the end you have to respect the AAS.
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you ever been addicted to anything before? Well, you're hooked on aas now.
 
I've thought about AAS since I first learned that Arnold's muscle wasn't completely self made.

I feel confident in saying that I plan on using repeatedly, but I will not go overkill with dosages and will do proper pct.

I have never been addicted to any drug except sex.

BUT, when I focus in on something I can get seriously deep into it.
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
I've thought about AAS since I first learned that Arnold's muscle wasn't completely self made.

I feel confident in saying that I plan on using repeatedly, but I will not go overkill with dosages and will do proper pct.

I have never been addicted to any drug except sex.

BUT, when I focus in on something I can get seriously deep into it.
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I always like to workout the muscle I inject into that day. It usually helps disperse the oil and helps with soreness. I also furiously massage it BEFORE and AFTER injecting, while applying pressure to the hole(with a swap, you dont want oil coming back out). You can also take an asprin before injecting to help circulation.
 
bigmodean said:
I sat there w/needle for 45 minutes my first time,after 45 mins closed my eyes and stabbed finally thinking "okay,its in"opened my eyes to see I didnt even break the surface,pussed out,tried again succesfully the next night,funny shit.I am jonesing to start my next one bad.Due to start in 4 weeks,maybe cut it to 2 weeks.
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Holy shit that's funny dude. Don't ever close your eyes and jab yourself with a needle, what if you miss and ram it into a vein. Dude injecting a needle is painful as hell, i dont know how people do it. I can sustain someone jabbing me with a needle but me doing it, once i was injecting and my blood pressure dropped and i was about to collapse, its scary shit dude. i dunno.

Sometimes its painless, and then sometimes out of nowhere, it all goes wrong and your half way in and suddenly something starts to burn big time and you heart rate drops and your bout to die. its serious =\

And theres also this panic thing that "oh shit did i innject correctly? did i inject in the right spot? holy shit maybe thats not how you do it, oh shit what if im in a Vein? oh shit what if i inject the Test inside the Vein? Is that better absorption? quicker? LOL oh shit, im afraid to Aspire incase i pull out some organs from my leg into my syringe. Lol im afraid of aspiring.

The other day when i was taking HCG, LOL the needle was dull from all the drawing from one via to another, and i decided"hey ill use the same needle, its not dull yet" And when i startedto jab that tiny Slin pin inside my belly, the bitch wouldnt pierce the skin! ID PRESS HARD AND IT WOULD NOT PIERCE IT lol and then i started to spin it so it would pierce and finally after spinning it it pierced and its in , i inject and damn the HCG BA burned a little, that Bacterial Water thing burned or maybe its the HCG, nway then what happened was the funniest. AS I WAS PULLING OUT THAT TINY 0.2 INCH OR 0.5 INCH PIN, IT WOULD NOT COME OUT LOL, THE DAMN THING WAS STUCK INSIDE THE SKIN AND THE PIN WOULD NOT COME OUT, LOL I APPLIED HEAVY PRESSURE TO PULL IT OUT MY SKIN WAS BOUT TO BLOW OUT AND IT WOULD NOT COME OUT. but then i held the pin held the skin and busted that MOFO out and and realized DAMN THAT PIN MUST OF BEEN MEGA DULL. and all i ddi with it was draw from HCG to BA water vial drawing like 5 times. i guess that must of dulled it.

nway
 
zk7 said:
Holy shit that's funny dude. Don't ever close your eyes and jab yourself with a needle, what if you miss and ram it into a vein. Dude injecting a needle is painful as hell, i dont know how people do it. I can sustain someone jabbing me with a needle but me doing it, once i was injecting and my blood pressure dropped and i was about to collapse, its scary shit dude. i dunno.

Sometimes its painless, and then sometimes out of nowhere, it all goes wrong and your half way in and suddenly something starts to burn big time and you heart rate drops and your bout to die. its serious =\

And theres also this panic thing that "oh shit did i innject correctly? did i inject in the right spot? holy shit maybe thats not how you do it, oh shit what if im in a Vein? oh shit what if i inject the Test inside the Vein? Is that better absorption? quicker? LOL oh shit, im afraid to Aspire incase i pull out some organs from my leg into my syringe. Lol im afraid of aspiring.

The other day when i was taking HCG, LOL the needle was dull from all the drawing from one via to another, and i decided"hey ill use the same needle, its not dull yet" And when i startedto jab that tiny Slin pin inside my belly, the bitch wouldnt pierce the skin! ID PRESS HARD AND IT WOULD NOT PIERCE IT lol and then i started to spin it so it would pierce and finally after spinning it it pierced and its in , i inject and damn the HCG BA burned a little, that Bacterial Water thing burned or maybe its the HCG, nway then what happened was the funniest. AS I WAS PULLING OUT THAT TINY 0.2 INCH OR 0.5 INCH PIN, IT WOULD NOT COME OUT LOL, THE DAMN THING WAS STUCK INSIDE THE SKIN AND THE PIN WOULD NOT COME OUT, LOL I APPLIED HEAVY PRESSURE TO PULL IT OUT MY SKIN WAS BOUT TO BLOW OUT AND IT WOULD NOT COME OUT. but then i held the pin held the skin and busted that MOFO out and and realized DAMN THAT PIN MUST OF BEEN MEGA DULL. and all i ddi with it was draw from HCG to BA water vial drawing like 5 times. i guess that must of dulled it.

nway
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You're joking right.
 
Sorry, GSM, that doesn't sound like what I meant by 'aspirating'. I meant that, after you insert the needle, you draw back slightly on the plunger to ascertain that the end of the needle isn't in a blood vessel. You should get a few small bubbles come up into the syringe but if you're in a blood vessel then you'l get blood and should withdraw and try again.

Thigh soreness is unfortunately common. Some people take well to thigh shots and some walk like a gimp for a few days. I avoid thighs and prefer the ventrogluteal muscle. It's always been a good site for me. Side delts are another one that's good for me.

The reaction to the solvents in the gear could have you worried this first time and the swelling could spread further down your leg. Your response is typical and there's no reason to expect it every time. Your body adjusts.
 
blut wump said:
Sorry, GSM, that doesn't sound like what I meant by 'aspirating'. I meant that, after you insert the needle, you draw back slightly on the plunger to ascertain that the end of the needle isn't in a blood vessel. You should get a few small bubbles come up into the syringe but if you're in a blood vessel then you'l get blood and should withdraw and try again.

Thigh soreness is unfortunately common. Some people take well to thigh shots and some walk like a gimp for a few days. I avoid thighs and prefer the ventrogluteal muscle. It's always been a good site for me. Side delts are another one that's good for me.

The reaction to the solvents in the gear could have you worried this first time and the swelling could spread further down your leg. Your response is typical and there's no reason to expect it every time. Your body adjusts.
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To add, make sure you go deep enough. 1in in thighs and shoulder, and 1.5in in butt is standard.
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
I feel confident in saying that I plan on using repeatedly, but I will not go overkill with dosages and will do proper pct.
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RETARD ALERT!!! DING! DING! DING!


Code Red!!!


500 mgs every 5 days IS OVERKILL for a 1st timer. However, lots of other juice puppies here will disagree.

One thing I've noticed is that some of the guys with the lamest physiques (some t shirt muscles w/ no legs)and the least real world AS experience are the ones that say 500 mgs/wk is standard.

I hope you like joint injuries and side effects cuz you're on your way.

250 mgs of enanthate/wk would've been sensible-I grew like a weed for years on that dosage. I know lots of other guys that have too.

Oh well, it's your body. When your kidneys go and you lose 70 lbs I'll still be the guy in the gym that everyone wants to look like because my physique didn't come in a bottle and I was responsible about my AS use.
 
Also watch that diet.... you don't want to fuel this cycle with cheeseburgers and fries... eat as clean as possible...your body will thank you later.
 
BigCracker said:
RETARD ALERT!!! DING! DING! DING!


Code Red!!!


500 mgs every 5 days IS OVERKILL for a 1st timer. However, lots of other juice puppies here will disagree.

One thing I've noticed is that some of the guys with the lamest physiques (some t shirt muscles w/ no legs)and the least real world AS experience are the ones that say 500 mgs/wk is standard.

I hope you like joint injuries and side effects cuz you're on your way.

250 mgs of enanthate/wk would've been sensible-I grew like a weed for years on that dosage. I know lots of other guys that have too.

Oh well, it's your body. When your kidneys go and you lose 70 lbs I'll still be the guy in the gym that everyone wants to look like because my physique didn't come in a bottle and I was responsible about my AS use.
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Wow, I think Big Cracker is the only guy who recommends ever lower dosages than me! But my concept was always to use gear as a "supplement" of sorts.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of guys who'd rather get advice from someone who supplies the pros with gear -- as if they somehow know more, or some secret method, or some magical combination. So they do the "pros" cycle and wind up still looking like someone whose main form of exercise is stickball and jumping jacks.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Wow, I think Big Cracker is the only guy who recommends ever lower dosages than me! But my concept was always to use gear as a "supplement" of sorts.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of guys who'd rather get advice from someone who supplies the pros with gear -- as if they somehow know more, or some secret method, or some magical combination. So they do the "pros" cycle and wind up still looking like someone whose main form of exercise is stickball and jumping jacks.
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I ramped my test down to 250 wk and doing very well. I have to say middle of the road dosages are best. I was doing very well the last few weeks on 250 mg test and 400 mg eq.
 
Blut Wump, your a good bro man. Really calmed me down with that post.

I am gonna try a delt shot next time with 25g 1", 1/2ml. I used the exact same technique for injecting as was mentioned in another thread on the main page about injecting.

As for researching, I have. The fact that I'm a newb, maybe was a little off on my shot and was a little stressed at the extreme soreness does NOT make me a retard.

As for my dosage amount, I am using Test E that is 300mg a ml. I'd be more than happy to switch to 1/2ml 150mg shot every 4th or 5th day. I don't want side effects and I am not looking to blow up 30lbs.

BigCracka, Calling me a retard is uncalled for. I don't give a fuck how good you look or how big you are or how long you have been in the game, that's just plain rude. You might think twice about saying some shit like that to a guy like me in person, regardless of your size.

Seriously. All you had to say is that you strongly recommend against that much and to drop in half which I am gonna do because I don't expect to be Ahhhnold over night or win the Mr. Olympia or whatever. Dude, I've built myself up to lifting +300lbs granite rocks and chunks of concrete all natural. You don't know shit about me.

As for cheeseburgers and fries. A coupel meals a week I eat what I want. Yesterday's sample menu:

breakfast Venti mocha, 1 cup egg beaters drank, banana, cliff bar

mid-morning-1/2 drank of homemade protein gainer. Full amount being about 1 full blender.

lunch-tuna fish on whole wheat bread, and not the shit with corn syrup in it, 1/2 container of lowfat cottage cheese, apple

after work-last 1/2 shake

post-workout-protein and carb shake.

dinner-2 grilled 80% lean hamburger patties with some ketchup, rice and broccoli, glass of milk

pre-bed time 1/2 container cottage cheese, 1 scoop peanut butter, 1 banana,
supps and fish oil.

Fuck.
 
bro honestly chill out, wait until those hormones are in full swing in your system to start changing routine.

i was always gungo ho begining of cycle only to be introduced to what i know now are intolerable side effect's i get from certain steroids

what im saying is dont confuse your enthusiasim with actual cycle progress
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
Thanks guys.

Felt like I was getting bashed pretty hard there.
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dont worry about it bigcrack has bin bashing people all over the place day in and day out.when you see people doing that just skip every thing they say.dont matter if there right or wrong just skip it.
 
BC is a good bro...he just beleives in "tough love" lol
I recommend even lower doses than him generally
200 mg every week is pretty standard if you are under 185 lbs @ about 10 % BF

not to much need for more IMHO
 
Mac173 said:
Definetley placebo affect at this point.
Wait until it really kicks in!!!
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my thoughts exactly.

O' and i know iv already said this...but mac173, your avitar rocks harder than a landslide on steroids.
 
zk7 said:
And theres also this panic thing that "oh shit did i innject correctly? did i inject in the right spot? holy shit maybe thats not how you do it, oh shit what if im in a Vein? oh shit what if i inject the Test inside the Vein? Is that better absorption? quicker? LOL oh shit, im afraid to Aspire incase i pull out some organs from my leg into my syringe. Lol im afraid of aspiring.

The other day when i was taking HCG, LOL the needle was dull from all the drawing from one via to another, and i decided"hey ill use the same needle, its not dull yet" And when i startedto jab that tiny Slin pin inside my belly, the bitch wouldnt pierce the skin! ID PRESS HARD AND IT WOULD NOT PIERCE IT lol and then i started to spin it so it would pierce and finally after spinning it it pierced and its in , i inject and damn the HCG BA burned a little, that Bacterial Water thing burned or maybe its the HCG, nway then what happened was the funniest. AS I WAS PULLING OUT THAT TINY 0.2 INCH OR 0.5 INCH PIN, IT WOULD NOT COME OUT LOL, THE DAMN THING WAS STUCK INSIDE THE SKIN AND THE PIN WOULD NOT COME OUT, LOL I APPLIED HEAVY PRESSURE TO PULL IT OUT MY SKIN WAS BOUT TO BLOW OUT AND IT WOULD NOT COME OUT. but then i held the pin held the skin and busted that MOFO out and and realized DAMN THAT PIN MUST OF BEEN MEGA DULL. and all i ddi with it was draw from HCG to BA water vial drawing like 5 times. i guess that must of dulled it.

nway
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Shenanigans.

You're out of your mind.
 
sabarblatoe said:
my thoughts exactly.

O' and i know iv already said this...but mac173, your avitar rocks harder than a landslide on steroids.
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thanks man.
YOu gotta love good ol Mac.
 
Hope so.

My right quad feels like it's gonna fall off when I walk.

Did a delt inject today. 1/2 ml BC! Turd.

It's gonna be sore, But there's no swelling. Seems like the typical shot soreness I have experienced in the past from doctors.

I gotta be honest, I think I literally shot between the 2 major muscles on the thigh because my thigh is swollen from the area of the shot down to the knee. It's not discolored nor does it hurt when I'm not moving, but I can't flex my leg past about 40 degrees. It's been pretty crippling. Seriously hoping the oil will disperse a decent amount by monday.
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
Hope so.

My right quad feels like it's gonna fall off when I walk.

Did a delt inject today. 1/2 ml BC! Turd.

It's gonna be sore, But there's no swelling. Seems like the typical shot soreness I have experienced in the past from doctors.

I gotta be honest, I think I literally shot between the 2 major muscles on the thigh because my thigh is swollen from the area of the shot down to the knee. It's not discolored nor does it hurt when I'm not moving, but I can't flex my leg past about 40 degrees. It's been pretty crippling. Seriously hoping the oil will disperse a decent amount by monday.
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i've only shot in my thigh once, a couple of weeks ago, and i can safely say "NEVER AGAIN!".
i probly will do it again just in a different place. it literally crippled me for a week! when the needle went in it was fine, then as it went in further i felt the tingling, twitching feeling (must have hit a nerve) not painfull at the time, just strange.
then next day FUCK ME!!!! pain!!!!!
 
Let us know if it changes in any way for the worse. What you're currently describing is common and should pass in a couple or three days. It's usually considered to be a reaction to the solvents. Your body acclimatizes to it.

If delts don't work nicely for you then you could consider medial glute, sometimes called ventrogluteal muscle. Basically, diagonally behind and below the hip. Gluteus maximus is another common choice.
 
My delt is sore today lol. No swelling. It hurts like a mofo if I try to to a side lateral with my arm past about 45 derees, but other than that it's ok.

I am definitely interested in the ventrogluteal shot.

Not so sure about the normal glute shot. Every experience I have had in getting a shot there from a doctor has been pretty painful and sore.

How are traps?
 
Well I went all out today.

Went and bought aspirin, aleve, icy/hot, heating pad and large pack of green peas for an ice pack.

How the hell do you workout when every inject you do is sore as hell?

I'm gonna keep it simple and do 150mg mon and thur each week.

BTW, been feeling a little down. I've been using 5mg liquid aromasin ed. I have not noticed any bloat at all. Would I be ok running it eod since my test dosage is pretty low? I don't feel sad or emotional so much as kinda unemotional. Kinda blah. I know this could be just due to my sore ass swollen leg, but I get the feeling it's cuz my estro is too low.

Forgot to mention that my appetite pretty much disappeared thursday night. Today it is coming back though. Weird man, weird.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Pain can make you do weird things. As for the AI, you most likely don't need one since your cycle is light. You might think of dropping it for a bit, then reintroducing slowly if/when the sides go away.
 
Ya, my mood has lightened up abit tonight from the monotone feel I have had the last couple days. Seems to get closer to normal at night right before I take the AI. I'm completely paranoid about gyno though.

My appetite is back in full force and the leg is getting better.

Did some heavy research on injecting today. Plan is to pre-heat the stuff in a bag, make sure I inject slowly and minimize movement while injecting as much as possible. Apply moderate pressure for 30 seconds after with an alchohol swab, then bandaid.

Then pop an advil allergy+sinus (heard this works good if you are slightly intolerant of the alchohol in the gear for reducing swelling). then heating pad for an hour after.

Gonna work on becoming a master pinner lol.

Anyone reading this-is taking aromasin eod ok or should I just not take it as suggested unless I feel I need it?
 
AI usage is a personal thing and you need to find your own requirements. You could consider EOD since you're already down to a rather low dose. You could even drop it for a while, as PF mentions.

I recall reading that the alcohol reaction is a histamine reaction so an anti-histamine might help. They should get easier before too long, anyway. You might need to shop around from cycle to cycle until you find a brew that you're happy with. Even human grade gear isn't a guarantee of a comfortable injection.

Always try to relax a muscle when injecting and, as you said, don't allow any movement.
 
Honestly, 300mg test /wk .... you don't need an AI... it is more than likely doing more harm then good. Thats like a HRT dose and those fellas aren't prescribed "AI's".
 
I'd be wary suggesting that there's no need for an AI until someone knows that they are good to go. I need an AI at pretty much any dose else I bloat and get nose-bleeds and get really crabby.
 
If you are having pain, I highly suggest baking your gear for 15minutes at 200 degrees with a pin in it to vent. I had killer soreness from some enanthate I just started and baked it last thursday. No problems now. The high BA content fucks with my world....shot knot and test flu. Good luck, the real increase in strength and mood is still coming.
 
Thanks a bunch guys.

I may or may not have noticed a few things having not taken the AI last night as usual.

This is kinda embarrasing, but today my nips were constantly getting hard. I kept going wtf? I will admit that I was working in the sun, there was a moderate breeze and I was sweating, no itching or pain, but being as paranoid as I am being a newb I was a little concerned.

Is nipple tightening ever a first sign of gyno? So far the only symptom's to look for that I know of are itchy nips, soreness, discharge and lumps.

Also my face felt like it was swelling up today and looking in the mirror it does appear to be a little more bloated than the last few days.

I'm trying to be very observant, but I don't want to be paranoid either.

One more thing, how do you bake your gear? Mine are in 10ml multi-dose vials. When you say pin, do you mean just a sharp, thin pin like you'd pull out of a pin cushion?
 
GhettoStudMuffin said:
Thanks a bunch guys.

I may or may not have noticed a few things having not taken the AI last night as usual.

This is kinda embarrasing, but today my nips were constantly getting hard. I kept going wtf? I will admit that I was working in the sun, there was a moderate breeze and I was sweating, no itching or pain, but being as paranoid as I am being a newb I was a little concerned.

Is nipple tightening ever a first sign of gyno? So far the only symptom's to look for that I know of are itchy nips, soreness, discharge and lumps.

Also my face felt like it was swelling up today and looking in the mirror it does appear to be a little more bloated than the last few days.

I'm trying to be very observant, but I don't want to be paranoid either.

One more thing, how do you bake your gear? Mine are in 10ml multi-dose vials. When you say pin, do you mean just a sharp, thin pin like you'd pull out of a pin cushion?
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I think you're being paranoid. I don't think yesterday's dose would even be out of your system yet (or the dose before that, completely).

PF
 
Ya, definitley paranoia. I tend to be on the cautious side whenever getting into something new.

Anyhow, today's workout killed. Got the best chest pump I have ever gotten. Arms started to pump nicely from it too. Tricep pump was one of the best I have had.

I am on 40mg var ed for weeks 1-3/4.

Somethings happening and I don't think today was placebo in the gym.

If I remember right var can give some nice pumps.
 
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